Fox News given permisson by courts to put out missinformation

  • Tiller66

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    Jun 29, 2009 1:37 AM GMT
    Well today thanks to my little bro's post on facebook found out that the courts siad in acorredance with the First amendment that Fox and any news angency can give misleading information about stories that they cover. Check out www.ceaseSPIN.org for the whole story.I'm sure this does'nt surprise anyone but I just thought I would share this and hope with your help to spread it around as much as possible.icon_twisted.gif
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    Jun 29, 2009 1:46 AM GMT
    WOW

    So hows the weather..

    totally not shocked by that
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    Jun 29, 2009 2:53 AM GMT
    Well, then it's business as usual for Fox News.

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  • calibro

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    Jun 29, 2009 3:33 AM GMT
    I find Fox News and The Onion to be very similar in the fact that just about everything they report on is false, but The Onion has fewer grammatical mistakes.
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    Jun 29, 2009 3:46 AM GMT
    Years back just after 9/11 happened I was at a Cafe in San Fransisco with the boyfriend I had at the time. He was reading the New York Times or some paper like that and pointed out a very small article about the Government inacting something called the Misinformation Act (might not be the real name) Basically it was buried in the paper and I never heard anything else about it.
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    Jun 29, 2009 4:00 AM GMT
    Why were you expecting FOX to give anything other than misleading information?

    The weather (if you are concerned liltanker) has been crappy -- hot! But that's not much different than FOX is it now?
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    Jun 29, 2009 4:07 AM GMT
    Fox News as most news media in the US do not mislead but rather lead and point into the direction they want americans to focus on creating a huge opinion matrix (i.e. Iran's fallout).
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    Jun 29, 2009 4:15 AM GMT
    xrichx saidWell, then it's business as usual for Fox News.

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    I was just talking to someone over a beer who told me that Fox News was calling Sanford a democrat just as they did with Larry Craig. I didn't know what he was talking about since I never watch Faux news. That's incredible. Why don't the other news organizations gang up and show all the false news they report. They could put them out of business if they were aggressive enough.
  • BizzQuik

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    Jun 29, 2009 4:17 AM GMT
    Any credible news source will not present misleading information. That is against a journalists ethics. So really if a news source is going to do that they are not being ethical
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    Jun 29, 2009 4:19 AM GMT
    "Faux News"

    Genius. I'm using that the next time I see my dad!
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    Jun 29, 2009 4:29 AM GMT
    Being able to lie is unfortunately a necessity for free speech. And even though people or organizations can lie publicly, they can still be taken to court for libel or slander so it is not a complete loss.

  • ep83

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    Jun 29, 2009 4:32 AM GMT
    Bizz saidAny credible news source will not present misleading information. That is against a journalists ethics. So really if a news source is going to do that they are not being ethical


    Oh naive Bizz...

    We don't really have any credible news organizations, certainly not ones that act on the national stage. Just browse through the archives of Glenn Greenwald or Media Matters to see detailed deconstructions of how vapid our media reporters (read: stenographers) are, especially Washington "Insiders" who care more for access than for actual reporting. One of the most blatant offenders is David Gregory, "I think there are a lot of critics who think that . . . . if we did not stand up and say this is bogus, and you're a liar, and why are you doing this, that we didn't do our job. I respectfully disagree. It's not our role." Horrendous.

    For a recent egregious example of this, read this column and especially listen to the interview at the bottom.
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    Jun 29, 2009 4:32 AM GMT
    I was looking for this and found it! It explains how lying and free speech are connected (at least in politics):

    False Ads: There Oughta Be A Law! - Or Maybe NotHere's a fact that may surprise you: Candidates have a legal right to lie to voters just about as much as they want.

    That comes as a shock to many. After all, consumers have been protected for decades from false ads for commercial products. Shouldn't there be "truth-in-advertising" laws to protect voters, too?

    Turns out, that's a tougher question than you might imagine.

    For one thing, the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution says, "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech," and that applies to candidates for office especially. And secondly, in the few states that have enacted laws against false political ads, they haven't been very effective.
  • DCguy2001

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    Jun 29, 2009 4:47 AM GMT
    growingbig saidYears back just after 9/11 happened I was at a Cafe in San Fransisco with the boyfriend I had at the time. He was reading the New York Times or some paper like that and pointed out a very small article about the Government inacting something called the Misinformation Act (might not be the real name) Basically it was buried in the paper and I never heard anything else about it.


    Congress has never enacted a law like that -- and if it did, you can bet that it wouldn't have ended up as a very small story in the New York Times!

    You may be thinking of Pentagon program implemented under the Bush Administration that allowed for planting false stories with foreign journalists -- another one of Rummy's wacky ideas. Here's a New York Times story about it from 2004:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/13/politics/13info.html?pagewanted=print&position=
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    Jun 29, 2009 5:02 AM GMT
    Wow, and I used to think Fox News was a reliable source.
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    Jun 29, 2009 5:16 AM GMT
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    growingbig saidYears back just after 9/11 happened I was at a Cafe in San Fransisco with the boyfriend I had at the time. He was reading the New York Times or some paper like that and pointed out a very small article about the Government inacting something called the Misinformation Act (might not be the real name) Basically it was buried in the paper and I never heard anything else about it.


    Congress has never enacted a law like that -- and if it did, you can bet that it wouldn't have ended up as a very small story in the New York Times!

    You may be thinking of Pentagon program implemented under the Bush Administration that allowed for planting false stories with foreign journalists -- another one of Rummy's wacky ideas. Here's a New York Times story about it from 2004:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/13/politics/13info.html?pagewanted=print&position=


    Yeah, I think that might be what I was thinking about. I wasn't even sure it was The New York Times.
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    Jun 29, 2009 5:41 AM GMT
    I wish I knew where to find it on the web, but several years ago two reporters for a FOX affiliate in Florida (one of them is now in Detroit and was a key investigative reporter in the whole Kwame Kilpatric Detroit Mayor scandal) were working on a story on tainted milk being sold to schools.

    FOX Aministrators got wind of the story and asked the reporters to change their report to be "nicer" to the manufacturer who happened to be a big FOX advertiser. The reporters resisted at first and then asked the station to put their request in writing, which the station DID.. The report aired on the TV station as the station wanted... and then the reporters quit and told their side of the story in court.

    The same thing happened... AND THIS WAS A CASE WHERE KIDS ARE GETTING SICK!!! LIKE REALLY REALLY SICK.

    Telling lies in politics is bad... telling lies so people can get rich while kids get sick... that's just criminal. But apparently it's "freedom of speech."

    Before the new FCC rules were instituted in the 1990's (I think 97?) Stations had to stand account to how they used the public's airwaves. They were held accountable to the LOCAL communities which they served. We have stripped those laws (many from the 1930s) to allow major corporations to operate under one license across the country without regard to local causes or safety.

    And this is the result... not just for FOX, but for all of the stations, including your cable companies.
  • Tiller66

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    Jun 29, 2009 5:51 AM GMT
    Yes that was the story that the reporters said Fox bosses were trying to get them to change facts and Fox won after taking it to court 5 times in which the jury found that Fox was lieing but then they changed tatics by arguing that it was within they'er First Amendment rights to do so and the court could'nt find fault in that arguement.
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    Jun 29, 2009 5:59 AM GMT



    So basically any US news source can say gays are abominations, a national threat to stability, a sub-species?

    .......wtf?......





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    Jun 29, 2009 6:03 AM GMT
    when the news went from being a system to disseminate information to the educated public to a form of entertainment for the lowest common denominator who'd make them the most money

    The new main stream news services went to shit
  • Tiller66

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    Jun 29, 2009 6:04 AM GMT
    Yep that's right but to be some what fair other then typos with party affiliations they do try to be a little slyer then telling flat out lies that can be proven easily.
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    Jun 29, 2009 6:17 AM GMT
    Fox appears to me like the national enquirer of new channels. They sensationalize things so much it kind of draws people in. It seems mainly geared for a conservative crowd that is known for its general paranoia about the rest of the world ..

  • metalxracr

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    Jun 29, 2009 9:33 AM GMT
    I believe that if Fox News did weather forecasting those too would be misleading.
  • metalxracr

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    Jun 29, 2009 9:39 AM GMT
    Also, I like to think FOX News is an acronym for ... Fucking Over Xenophobic News.
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    Jun 29, 2009 11:05 AM GMT
    ... and in other news today, the Titanic went down in the Atlantic.