I am by far and large very much against this war of aggression. The thought process that got us into Iraq is twofold. a) regional power/control and resource control (oil), and b) the possible thought police.
The decision and plan to invade Iraq occurred long before 9/11. It's documented, it's discussed, it's historical fact. 9/11 was a convenient tool to sway public opinion.
Iraq had terrorists pre-9/11, yes. So did the US. Overtly? no. The US has and does support subversion and terrorism beneath the radar. We have since the CIA and other like organizations were created. This too is undisputable, documented, historical.
Regardless of how blissful the repugnicans are about progress in Iraq, daily photos and stories of death and destruction continue. This ... is not progress.
Regardless of how horrific naysayers expound about the atrocities, facts and figures can be inflated. There are good things happening in Iraq that in and of themselves are progress. The quality of man construction projects or whatnot may be indisputably questionable but there _are_ things being accomplished.
Yes, it's true this is a damned if you do, damned if you don't point in time. If we pulled every serviceman out of the quagmire today, they would return home with their lives. But we've made one fucking hell of a mess and it _is_ our responsibility to clean it up.
Unfortunately the "christian/bush" way of cleaning up borders on genocide, greedy power grabbing, and resource arrogation.
Since these fucks are still running the nation, scores of men and women in the service are going to lose their lives. Hundreds of thousands more Iraqis will too.
Mankind is still mankind, that means nobody is capable of manning up and -only- fixing things instead of more ass-hattery.
p.s. The opium export industry of Afghanistan is the highest it has ever been courtesy of US interference.
Happy Thanksgiving to each and all on both sides of the fence and I just wish more people tried much harder to resolve issues rather than cause bloodshed.