MJ left joe jackson what he deserved....

  • rnch

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    Jul 01, 2009 7:44 PM GMT
    NOTHING!!! payback for the wife/child beating thug of a father.

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    Jul 01, 2009 8:47 PM GMT
    Amen. Joe Jackson is one sick man.
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    Jul 01, 2009 8:49 PM GMT
    I smell daddy Jack and a law suit.... icon_rolleyes.gif



    plus that's ok, he is planning on having a public funneral and will probably (for a price) offer the media to film it.


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    Jul 01, 2009 9:12 PM GMT
    Joe will continue to do alright...........as long as he is nice to his wife - he won't be living under any bridges anytime soon. I understand Mrs. Jackson is a beneficiary of the trust - and Diana Ross is mentioned as well - as a successor guardian for the children - if anything happens to Mrs. Jackson. As soon as they liquidate Neverland - the money from the Sony arrangement (ATV music publishing catalog) will tide them all over - - - if they're careful. Not too many Bentleys there folks..........just drive the ones you have for a few years more! Uh - your cash cow is no longer around - go lightly on your spending until it is decided just how much each of you are going to get.
  • EricLA

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    Jul 01, 2009 10:44 PM GMT
    If his mother is Trustee, I'm pretty sure Joe will find some way to get his claws on that money.

    By the way, did you hear he has a record label? Ask him. I'm sure he'll be happy to tell you about it during MJ's funeral.

    Too bad MJ didn't live long enough to see his father pass away first.
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    Jul 02, 2009 12:54 AM GMT
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  • Webster666

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    Jul 02, 2009 1:19 AM GMT
    I know that a lot of guys will disagree with me, but we don't owe our parents anything.
    Our obligation is to our own offspring, if we have any...
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    Jul 02, 2009 1:45 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidI know that a lot of guys will disagree with me, but we don't owe our parents anything.
    Our obligation is to our own offspring, if we have any...


    Exactly.
    You are to keep that which you brought into or gave the world, not what brought you.

    As for Joe Jackson... icon_mad.gif
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    Jul 02, 2009 3:45 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidI know that a lot of guys will disagree with me, but we don't owe our parents anything.
    Our obligation is to our own offspring, if we have any...


    Hmm... pressumbaly you would owe your parents your happy childhood, your education, for being supportive and nagging you when you needed to be nagged.

    And I'd hope my kids (if I have any) would feel the same way.icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 02, 2009 3:46 AM GMT
    And did we all see him plugging his new work while talking about MJ's death to the CNN reporter? Ga-ross.
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    Jul 02, 2009 3:50 AM GMT
    Joe Jackson even looks like Satan.
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    Jul 02, 2009 4:02 AM GMT
    Why would it even matter since Mr. Jackson is MARRIED to Mrs. Jackson?!
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    Jul 02, 2009 4:06 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidI know that a lot of guys will disagree with me, but we don't owe our parents anything.
    Our obligation is to our own offspring, if we have any...


    I disagree. Your parents brought you into this world and showered you with tender love and care. You owe them the same in life and death (should they survive you). Nevertheless, that son of a bitch named Joe Jackson doesn't deserve a cent of MJJ's money. As I see it, leaving nothing to Joe Jackson is one of the few correct personal decisions MJJ made.
  • rnch

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    Jul 02, 2009 12:20 PM GMT
    cruelsummer saidWhy would it even matter since Mr. Jackson is MARRIED to Mrs. Jackson?!
    according to the MJ lawyer on larry king's show yesterday; they are married in name only, seldom even stay in the same house together. mrs jackson is not the same timid woman she was 40 years ago!!!

    i seriously doubt he has much, if any, influence over what mrs. jackson does.

    micheal wasn't the only person in the family joe beat the hell out of on a regular basis..... icon_mad.gif
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    Jul 02, 2009 12:21 PM GMT
    rnch saidNOTHING!!! payback for the wife/child beating thug of a father.


    couldn't agree more. the man was a user of people and a taker of things.... and therefore a loser.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jul 02, 2009 12:26 PM GMT
    Well everything I've ever heard about him wasn't positive. He was about as far away from the sensitive Michael...

    I understand that Joe and Katherine have an odd marriage arrangement, they really aren't "together" except in marriage only. They live apart
    for the most part. Not sure about the validity of all that, but I'm sure good old Joe is very aware how Michael felt about him.
  • NickoftheNort...

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    Jul 02, 2009 12:33 PM GMT
    From what I heard, the will specifically disinherits Jackson's ex-wife, Debbie Rowe, and does not mention his father at all. His mother is named as the guardian of his children, with Diana Ross being next-in-line should his mother die.

    Jackson remains a striking example of victimization at the hands of a parent.
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    Jul 02, 2009 12:47 PM GMT
    BlkMuscleGent said
    Webster666 saidI know that a lot of guys will disagree with me, but we don't owe our parents anything.
    Our obligation is to our own offspring, if we have any...


    I disagree. Your parents brought you into this world and showered you with tender love and care. You owe them the same in life and death (should they survive you). Nevertheless, that son of a bitch named Joe Jackson doesn't deserve a cent of MJJ's money. As I see it, leaving nothing to Joe Jackson is one of the few correct personal decisions MJJ made.

    I think the obligation can be in 2 directions, almost on the traditional Chinese or Japanese family models. The middle generation is best capable of taking care of both the youngest and oldest generations. So that parents in the prime of their lives and earning ability look after both their children, and the aging grandparents as needed.

    This ideally assumes a stable society, where each generation takes its turn, being first a care receiver, next a care giver, and then a care receiver again as they age through life. It all balances out and is fair & equitable if the stability & continuity are there.

    And even if the elderly have made their own arrangements for themselves, the middle generation is there as a security net, especially should mental powers fade and the ability to make decisions fails. Not to mention emotional support & love, since it isn't all about income and physical comfort.
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    rnch said
    cruelsummer saidWhy would it even matter since Mr. Jackson is MARRIED to Mrs. Jackson?!
    according to the MJ lawyer on larry king's show yesterday; they are married in name only, seldom even stay in the same house together. mrs jackson is not the same timid woman she was 40 years ago!!!

    i seriously doubt he has much, if any, influence over what mrs. jackson does.

    micheal wasn't the only person in the family joe beat the hell out of on a regular basis..... icon_mad.gif


    because the assets of one spouse are looked upon as the assets of both. luckily for ms. jackson if she does divorce her husband assets gotten by inheritance are normally not considered marital property subject to equitable division. That said no one knows whether or not Joe jackson was disinherited, or debbie rowe or anyone for that matter. MJ put all of his assets into a residuary clause in his will, which pour over into a trust. this was done for a reason. wills have to be probated and are public records, trust documents are private. no one ever has to know the distribution of that trust.
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    Jul 02, 2009 3:14 PM GMT
    The will is only 5 pages long and the co executors are Michael's lawyer and a close friend of his (I don't hear who the friend is though.) Mr. Jackson is not even mentioned in the will. Mrs. Jackson has the guardianship until she is unable due to infirmity or death at which time it transfers to Diana Ross.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 02, 2009 3:37 PM GMT
    Joe & Katherine Jackson have been separated for over 10 years. Joe Jackson lives in Vegas, Katherine lives in the Jackson compound in Encino. Regardless, say what you want about Joe Jackson, but his efforts early on in the developing of his kids talents, harsh and rigid as they were, are largely responsible for putting the Jackson 5 on the map in the first place and launching their careers. The hard work and discipline he instilled in his kids helped develop their talent at an early stage. I don't agree with his tactics at all, but I do think he deserves some credit for that and shouldn't be just written off and cast aside. Parents make mistakes, and there is no rule book or manual to follow when your kids are suddenly turned into superstars as The Jackson 5 were via Motown. Joe Jackson is guilty of wanting a better life for his kids than he had himself, and he was willing to move mountains to not only get his kids the break they deserved, but also making sure they were prepared and polished when that break came.
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    BlkMuscleGent said
    Webster666 saidI know that a lot of guys will disagree with me, but we don't owe our parents anything.
    Our obligation is to our own offspring, if we have any...


    I disagree. Your parents brought you into this world and showered you with tender love and care. You owe them the same in life and death (should they survive you). Nevertheless, that son of a bitch named Joe Jackson doesn't deserve a cent of MJJ's money. As I see it, leaving nothing to Joe Jackson is one of the few correct personal decisions MJJ made.

    I think the obligation can be in 2 directions, almost on the traditional Chinese or Japanese family models. The middle generation is best capable of taking care of both the youngest and oldest generations. So that parents in the prime of their lives and earning ability look after both their children, and the aging grandparents as needed.

    This ideally assumes a stable society, where each generation takes its turn, being first a care receiver, next a care giver, and then a care receiver again as they age through life. It all balances out and is fair & equitable if the stability & continuity are there.

    And even if the elderly have made their own arrangements for themselves, the middle generation is there as a security net, especially should mental powers fade and the ability to make decisions fails. Not to mention emotional support & love, since it isn't all about income and physical comfort.


    I'm Nigerian. In Africa it is considered a sin for kids not to care for their elderly parents. For example, it isn't customary for Africans to put their parents in homes for old folks. It's considered disrespectful and heartless. On the other hand, many white Americans do it without blinking.
  • rnch

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    Jul 02, 2009 10:02 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidJoe & Katherine Jackson have been separated for over 10 years. Joe Jackson lives in Vegas, Katherine lives in the Jackson compound in Encino. Regardless, say what you want about Joe Jackson, but his efforts early on in the developing of his kids talents, harsh and rigid as they were, are largely responsible for putting the Jackson 5 on the map in the first place and launching their careers. The hard work and discipline he instilled in his kids helped develop their talent at an early stage. I don't agree with his tactics at all, but I do think he deserves some credit for that and shouldn't be just written off and cast aside. Parents make mistakes, and there is no rule book or manual to follow when your kids are suddenly turned into superstars as The Jackson 5 were via Motown. Joe Jackson is guilty of wanting a better life for his kids than he had himself, and he was willing to move mountains to not only get his kids the break they deserved, but also making sure they were prepared and polished when that break came.
    sounds like you were never physically or mentally abused by your father. icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif