What does it mean to be "smart?"

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    Jul 03, 2009 5:06 AM GMT
    I am just wondering what you guys think about the request to date "smart" guys or the statement in a profile "I am smart" Filler on a profile?

    What exactly does it mean to be smart?

    Does it really matter if someone understands quantum physics?
    Common Sense?
    Smarter than others? (and how exactly would you define that?)



    P.S. Not to confuse the issue, but just remember that George Bush went to Yale. (Just sayin)
  • Sirkit

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    Jul 03, 2009 5:26 AM GMT
    There are a lot of kinds of intelligence out there, it's not really a useful statement. Were I to say 'I want a smart guy' I think I'd mean I want someone who has obvious intelligence, perhaps a degree, and has a level of understanding of how the world works, an interest in what is currently going on in the world would be in there somewhere. But that's just my impression of the word, one of the joys of language is that individual meaning takes primacy; they could mean something entirely different. Why don't you ask them, could be a conversation starter.
  • Delivis

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    Jul 03, 2009 6:03 AM GMT
    Someone aware of their own ignorance.
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    Jul 03, 2009 7:29 AM GMT
    Check the grammar. It is always telling.
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    Jul 03, 2009 7:34 AM GMT
    People that know me in person tell me I'm smart. In the "book smart" sense, I don't think I am, but maybe I'm wrong. In the "common sense" arena, I think I shine, but maybe I'm wrong.

    That's why I don't say "I'm smart" in my profile - I think it's subject to experience and outside opinion.

    I'd rather say, "I'm not a dumbass."

    But then, I could still be wrong.
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    Jul 03, 2009 7:37 AM GMT
    Requesting a smart paramour is like painting a big red bull's eye on your back. It communicates that:
    A. Smart is something to be valued (you've heard).
    B. You wouldn't know smart if you saw it (but you'd bet it involves big words).
    C. You have very little money (you're hapless).
    D. You will undoubtedly be scammed (out of the little you DO own).
  • kinetic

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    Jul 03, 2009 7:39 AM GMT
    I think there are a few basic ways to be smart. One would be book smart, which to me is like educated in a particular area. Then street smart, which would be like more socially keen and knowing how to interact with others. Then there is common sense, which isn't always as common as you might think.
    In my experience all the lines are blurred and everyone seems to have their own make-up of each to different degrees.
    I know I may not be the most book smart, but I think I can read people pretty well and get along well social situations... icon_neutral.gif
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    Jul 03, 2009 7:43 AM GMT
    mickeytopogigio saidRequesting a smart paramour is like painting a big red bull's eye on your back. It communicates that:
    A. Smart is something to be valued (you've heard).
    B. You wouldn't know smart if you saw it (but you'd bet it involves big words).
    C. You have very little money (you're hapless).
    D. You will undoubtedly be scammed (out of the little you DO own).
    kinetic saidI think there are a few basic ways to be smart. One would be book smart, which to me is like educated in a particular area. Then street smart, which would be like more socially keen and knowing how to interact with others. Then there is common sense, which isn't always as common as you might think.
    In my experience all the lines are blurred and everyone seems to have their own make-up of each to different degrees.
    I know I may not be the most book smart, but I think I can read people pretty well and get along well social situations... icon_neutral.gif


    And of course, where do these guidelines get you:

    Laid until you are twenty-nine.


    Good luck fellas!

    Edit: Bitter - party of one!
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    Jul 03, 2009 7:47 AM GMT
    LOL...yeah, the George Bush p.s. just shows that influence is an effective means by which to gain college admission, particularly if you won't be needing financial aid. Also, Bush is proud of having been a 'C' student. Anyhoo...

    Smart is as subjectively defined as VGL, athletic, swimmer's build, hot, and so many other casually-used (and frequently abused) terms. Mostly it's about defining what smart means to you in the contexts you shared and valuing that idea for yourself, you know? icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 03, 2009 8:03 AM GMT
    "Smart" could be many things.

    1) Well read - Cause books are productive ways to waste time
    2) College - Didn't want High School to end
    3) High IQ - Really good at tests
    4) Street smarts - You know who the drug dealers are

    Or maybe he's talking intelligence like Howard Gardner's multiple intelligences

    1) Kinesthetic Intelligence - Dancers, Athletes
    2) Interpersonal Intelligence - Likely extroverts, Psychologists, Politicians
    3) Intrapersonal Intelligence - Likely introverts, Philosophers, Theologians
    4) Verbal Intelligence - Linguists, Grammarians, Lawyers
    5) Mathematical Intelligence - Abstract reasoners, Mathematicians
    6) Naturalistic Intelligence - Conservationists, Farmers
    7) Spatial Intelligence - Engineers, Architects
    8 ) Musical Intelligence - Composers, Singers, DJ's

    Personally, I think it is a toss away line that doesn't mean much. The same as, "I had a good day," doesn't really say anything at all.
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    Jul 03, 2009 8:19 AM GMT
    Yeah, I have to agree.. "smart" is a relative term.

    To me, it's not about having a high IQ or advanced education. It's more about how witty/clever a guy is. And about his ability to think on his own.

    But generally speaking, I think most guys are referring to brain smarts.
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    Jul 03, 2009 8:22 AM GMT
    xrichx said...I think most guys are referring to brain smarts.
    As opposed to smarts acquired from a poke from a sharp stick?
  • jrs1

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    Jul 03, 2009 10:31 AM GMT

    smart: the ability to learn, adapt, and develop quickly. this ability can be measured by quantifying the amount of time elapsed between an individual's exposure to a stimulus and the time it takes for said individual to learn, adapt, or develop given the aforementioned stimulus.

    through this, one may immediately think of Watson, Skinner, and Pavlov's experimentation with classical and operant conditioning.

    wisdom, being an individual seeking both understanding and tacit knowledge instead of the rote memorization of facts, seems like a sagacious step beyond that of someone deemed ' smart. '

    there are plenty of ' smart ' people out there who cannot separate belief from reality. those who can attempt to separate belief from experience, are more likely to be wise.

    as previously mentioned, there are multiple intelligences and limiting an individual to, for instances - checking their spelling or the usage of grandiose linguistics/grammar/syntax - is neither reliable nor valid.
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    Jul 03, 2009 10:47 AM GMT
    xuaerb said
    P.S. Not to confuse the issue, but just remember that George Bush went to Yale. (Just sayin)

    ...He went to Yale?

    My faith in the American education system has just taken another blow. icon_sad.gif
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    Jul 03, 2009 10:49 AM GMT
    mickeytopogigio saidRequesting a smart paramour is like painting a big red bull's eye on your back. It communicates that:
    A. Smart is something to be valued (you've heard).
    B. You wouldn't know smart if you saw it (but you'd bet it involves big words).
    C. You have very little money (you're hapless).
    D. You will undoubtedly be scammed (out of the little you DO own).


    This is so sad, but oh so true. LOL
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    Jul 03, 2009 11:11 AM GMT
    rebound_ace said
    xuaerb said
    P.S. Not to confuse the issue, but just remember that George Bush went to Yale. (Just sayin)

    ...He went to Yale?

    My faith in the American education system has just taken another blow. icon_sad.gif


    Yeah, he sure did. Of course, as Randyman pointed out, he wasn't exactly a scholar, LOL, but the entitlement there goes back two more generations, Prescott Bush, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. all went to Yale and all were members of Skull and Bones. So, no America is not a meritocracy. Its who you know, and nothing like in the movies ... icon_biggrin.gif (except Times Square, which is just like in the movies)



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    Jul 03, 2009 11:13 AM GMT
    kinetic saidI think there are a few basic ways to be smart. One would be book smart, which to me is like educated in a particular area. Then street smart, which would be like more socially keen and knowing how to interact with others. Then there is common sense, which isn't always as common as you might think.
    In my experience all the lines are blurred and everyone seems to have their own make-up of each to different degrees.
    I know I may not be the most book smart, but I think I can read people pretty well and get along well social situations... icon_neutral.gif


    Common Sense, if common, is not sense, but concensus.

    The Street Smart version of the Wizard of OZ



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    Jul 03, 2009 11:21 AM GMT
    I'm befuddled by this thread.. especially by Micky's post..

    But I'm looking at all the hot guys posting.

    I've no idea what that says about me..
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    Jul 03, 2009 12:47 PM GMT
    lilTanker saidI'm befuddled by this thread.. especially by Micky's post..

    But I'm looking at all the hot guys posting.

    I've no idea what that says about me..


    oh shut up, you smart ass ;)
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    Jul 03, 2009 12:51 PM GMT
    In other words: "Ouch! That smarts!"

    It's code for S&M.
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    Jul 03, 2009 12:56 PM GMT
    LOL, many of you will be dressing smart and enjoying a smart cocktail(pun intended) somewhere this weekend......
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    Jul 03, 2009 6:56 PM GMT
    mickeytopogigio said
    xrichx said...I think most guys are referring to brain smarts.
    As opposed to smarts acquired from a poke from a sharp stick?

    Hey smart guy, how about I poke you with something else? icon_lol.gif
  • kinetic

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    Jul 03, 2009 10:41 PM GMT
    scarabboy said
    mickeytopogigio saidRequesting a smart paramour is like painting a big red bull's eye on your back. It communicates that:
    A. Smart is something to be valued (you've heard).
    B. You wouldn't know smart if you saw it (but you'd bet it involves big words).
    C. You have very little money (you're hapless).
    D. You will undoubtedly be scammed (out of the little you DO own).
    kinetic saidI think there are a few basic ways to be smart. One would be book smart, which to me is like educated in a particular area. Then street smart, which would be like more socially keen and knowing how to interact with others. Then there is common sense, which isn't always as common as you might think.
    In my experience all the lines are blurred and everyone seems to have their own make-up of each to different degrees.
    I know I may not be the most book smart, but I think I can read people pretty well and get along well social situations... icon_neutral.gif


    And of course, where do these guidelines get you:

    Laid until you are twenty-nine.


    Good luck fellas!



    Edit: Bitter - party of one!


    I wouldn't say that they are guidelines. Just my own observations. No problem owning them!
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 03, 2009 10:49 PM GMT
    xuaerb saidI
    What exactly does it mean to be smart?


    I just take it to mean that you're not as dumb as a box of rocks icon_rolleyes.gif
  • kinetic

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    Jul 03, 2009 10:50 PM GMT
    xuaerb said
    kinetic saidI think there are a few basic ways to be smart. One would be book smart, which to me is like educated in a particular area. Then street smart, which would be like more socially keen and knowing how to interact with others. Then there is common sense, which isn't always as common as you might think.
    In my experience all the lines are blurred and everyone seems to have their own make-up of each to different degrees.
    I know I may not be the most book smart, but I think I can read people pretty well and get along well social situations... icon_neutral.gif


    Common Sense, if common, is not sense, but concensus.

    The Street Smart version of the Wizard of OZ





    LOVE IT!