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COURTESY IN THE LOCKER ROOM: What is right?
HndsmKansan Posts: 5908
Nov 23, 2007 1:53 PM GMT
I was in the locker room of my local YMCA after a workout and arrived to find a couple of older gentleman (old enough to be my father) in the lockers directly adjacent to the one I was using. I was actually in a corner of the locker room, not where I usually store my clothes (because it is tight there), but my usual locker area was being used.

I waited a moment for these men to finish, set my water bottle down and ran an errand, came back and waited a moment. One of the men finally said "You need in here"? I said "yeah" and made a comment about your neighbor always showing up in these cases
when your using your locker, even if the whole locker room was empty.. and sort of chuckled.

Neither moved their stuff and I waited...and waited and actually chatted with another gentleman I know and he even asked me what I was doing. Finally the one guy went to the shower and I got in and changed clothes
(without a shower) and got ready to go.

About the time I was ready to leave the guy returned from the shower and made a comment to his friend about
how long some people take to change (it was been honestly 2 or 3 minutes for me to change clothes).
It takes alot for me to get irritated, but I almost told them off. I think I probably should have just said, "Can you move down please so I can get in and get my stuff"....

I feel that if someone comes up and needs to get in an adjoining locker, you get your stuff and move over ASAP
so they can get in. Its the polite thing to do. I can't imagine doing anything else. I also don't care what the age of the person is... 65, 20 or whatever, a person should always show courtesy. Your thoughts?
GuiltyGear Posts: 5919
Nov 23, 2007 2:36 PM GMT
Hansan, I know this may not be the time or the thread, but i have a major crush on you. From the moment i saw that pic of you draped across that bench I was hooked. You look so sexy, so confident, so MY FRIGGEN TYPE! Honey,your sundrenched body in that photo commands respect which is why i'm surprised to hear of this shyness or was it it "coyness" tehe, that you displayed at the gym.
I read it thoroughly because I love gym yarns. I've got a few of my own if you want to hear. One involves me launching some guy four feet into the air while doing leg extensions. His shirt got caught on the.....anyway, back to you, what happens sounds like a serious case of miscommuni......cation.You didn't ask them to move eventhough they should have known to move. Sometimes you can't assume people are as intelligent as you are because sometimes they aren't. And, even if it isn't their fault they are stupid, you can't let their defaults inconvenience you. What's the answer then? You gotta be assertive. In this case a little warranted, totally unbitchy, but assertive dialogue from you would have been enough to get you into your locker. As for the old men, they gotta learn sometime because at my gym, it is one of the commandments that you move your stuff if it is blocking a guys way into his locker.
Besides, you are young and hot, they should have moved aside out of sheer respect anyway.
Nov 23, 2007 3:32 PM GMT
They should have definitely moved their stuff, it's the polite thing to do, and the locker room is shared space. I'd have been irritated, too!
Nov 23, 2007 5:20 PM GMT
First of all age does not make a difference...these men were rude

Second when they did not get the first clue you should have said "could you move your stuff I can't get in my locker"

Third if GuiltyGear happened to be next to you he would probably try to put you in his locker!
Nov 23, 2007 5:30 PM GMT
Ya, sometimes I think we have more and more people taking their anger toward society in a passive aggressive way. Like driving, notice some people purposely drive on the fast land slower then slower lane? they passive aggressively block traffic and annoy people, cause in other area of life, they are powerless. those old guys you talk about prop. is doing that.

Another thing that I was really mad at the gym, which just happened a while ago. I was at a bench doing my weight, and after 1 set and took a break, anotehr guy who was on the other end of room, finish his chat, bring his heavey weight here and told me to leave the bench. I told him why not use other empty benchs next to me? he said he was here perviously and he already set the height to his liking.
I was not happy obviously, cuase no one should claim a bench, not to mention he was gone for a while, and especially after I started my workout here. for the sake of peace, i let him have it. he won cause he has he's way. But there is a sense of hierarchies in gym, where the bigger guy has authorities over smaller guy. and they feel the bigger the muscle, the more they own the gym. But it's in the same vain of courtesy you talk about.
MikeAlva Posts: 250
Nov 23, 2007 5:31 PM GMT
I have that happen often at my over crowded gym. Most people are curtious and will move, but there are still some that dont get the hint. When that happens, I simply walk over to my locker start turning my lock while I say "excuse me, I need to get in here".
If they are being rude by not letting you in, be forceful, and rude right back. If they talk crap to me, I simply talk right back and point out thier flaws as well.
Nov 23, 2007 5:39 PM GMT
I say, hi , wait like 30 secs for the guy to move which they do 99% of the time but if they don't I proceed to use the locker like they are not there. Body contact and all.
DrStorm Posts: 185
Nov 23, 2007 5:55 PM GMT
Three words a lot of men totally have no clue of their meaning:

1] common courtesy;
2] consideration;


Enough said.

PEACE
daWeatherMan
Nov 23, 2007 6:15 PM GMT
I pretty much just say "Excuse me, I need to get to my locker."
Kevin82 Posts: 273
Nov 23, 2007 6:37 PM GMT
Older people can't always hear as well or put two and two together. They just need to be told what to do and sometimes though irritating you have to repeat yourself before they get it.
GuiltyGear Posts: 5919
Nov 23, 2007 6:48 PM GMT
Co Male, not my locker, i'd most likely try to put you in my car instead, easier to drive you to my house that way.
DiverScience Posts: 1301
Nov 23, 2007 7:11 PM GMT
There is far too little understanding of social responsibility in the world.

Nov 23, 2007 7:17 PM GMT
I don't understand why you didn't say something like, "Hey, can you move your stuff out of the way, so I can get dressed?" Is that rude?

A few days ago I was waiting on a leg press machine. It was being used by someone who was apparently memorizing the Bible or the Koran between sets. Maybe he just reads with his lips. Anyway, after 10 minutes, I said, "Hey, would you mind if I took a quick set." It was literally the last thing I had to do before leaving.

He pointed at another machine and said, "That's basically the same machine. Why don't you use that?"

I wasn't in the mood to explain that my knees, which were fucked up by surgery, seem to tolerate this machine better.

I walked a lap around the gym to avoid shredding his Bible. When he finally got off the fucking machine, he rolled his eyes and hit me with about 500 lbs. of attitude.
seapower Posts: 52
Nov 23, 2007 7:25 PM GMT
I pee on the lockers next to mine...I like marking my territory.

Seriously, what you're describing is very annoying and yet common enough for every guy who spends time at the gym to nod his head with recognition.

I'll go you one more. When guys leave their lockers, they should not leave behind any of the following: towels (wet or otherwise); used band-aids (plasters for some of you); empty bottles; puddles of water (on the bench, on the floor); locks (duh); anything else you wouldn't want to see yourself when you arrive. My gym employs a diligent cleaning staff but they (and I) are not your damned mother!
GuiltyGear Posts: 5919
Nov 23, 2007 7:32 PM GMT
I forgot to mention, next time that happens just start taking off your clothes and if they haven't gotten the point and moved by the time you are completely naked (oh to be them) just snake your way through them. LOL,I've never had the pleasure. They always get the point and move before i'm completely nude.
Nov 24, 2007 2:33 AM GMT
I agree one hundred percent. My YMCA is a very a packed place but I have yet to run into a rude member. I love to play racket ball and usually the courts are full but everyone usually will only take about a half hour and then rotate courts or take a break just to let others in.

I am usually there when also when the group of men who have lockers around me and I mean right next to me are there. We usually always run into the problem of us always being in there at the same time. However they will get their stuff and then move and also pass a courtiouse gesture.

So man, I understand what you are saying and I feel that men should still be gentlmen to eachother and not so cocky.
FirefighterBl... Posts: 1270
Nov 24, 2007 3:25 AM GMT
We've had our run-ins with rude people. Usually I'm polite but I've been known to start getting snarky with persistent asses. Sometimes you gotta just tell them off.
Nov 24, 2007 3:47 AM GMT
Like the peeing idea. That's is a really good idea.
mv03 Posts: 95
Nov 24, 2007 7:15 AM GMT
I'm so glad there's a forum on this. I was actually about to do this the other day. People that need to learn courtesy at the gym:

1. Am I the only person with a water bottle that allows people who don't have them to get in front of me? Even if I'm filling a bottle, I stop so other people can get a drink. Have that courtesy.
2. Old men in the locker room-Alright I know you've reached an age of respect and maturity, but there's no reason for you to walk around bare ass naked in the locker room...I know you're 70, and I don't need your ass or 70 year balls to show me. There's no need for you to air dry either...If the hot guy that's shredded and wet out of the steam room/shower wears a towel, than you certainly should too.
3. Butches-Masculine lesbians that flirt with their partners while they're on the machines...Come on.
4. Cell phones-Really? You're that important that you can't go an hour or two without getting a text or business call? At least get off the machine while talking and leave the room. I don't want to hear about your Bentley problems, Courtney's date with Kevin last night, or whatever you want to talk about on th cardio/weight machine next to me.
5. TV's-Yes, TV's are great...But you're in the gym to work out...Don't hold a bench while you go to watch football on the TV in the gym. Checking the score or watchin a good play? Fine. Watching until half-time? Go home.
6. Giving dirty looks or laughing-Don't like my technique or amount of weight I'm using? Concentrate on yourself.
7. Re-racking-PUT YOU'RE WEIGHTS AWAY! If you're too lazy to put them back, why come out? And try and put them where they are labeled to go.
8. Doing tai-chi? Great, but do it in one of the gyms or in the 'soft' fitness area, not where people are trying to move weights around you.
9. Benches-There are a limited number of benches. If you use big weights, props to you, I am jealous. However, you don't need to take up two benches out of five, just so you have one to rest your water bottle and weights on, because they're too heavy to lift off the ground.

Sorry, I just get tired of going to the gym and dealing with all that crap, on top of it being like being a friggin' diabetic in a Baskin Robbins with all the man candy who only want to satisfy a ladies sweet tooth. Hope you guys don't have this crap that often.
Nov 24, 2007 7:20 AM GMT
I second all that. All in favor?
liftordie Posts: 774
Nov 24, 2007 7:41 AM GMT
my mother always taught me to be 'concious of the world around me' i try to live it every day of my life.
Nov 24, 2007 7:52 AM GMT
burningmanI say, hi , wait like 30 secs for the guy to move which they do 99% of the time but if they don't I proceed to use the locker like they are not there. Body contact and all.

Burningman, I am going to come to your gym and hog the lockers.. 'til I get some body contact and all
chuckystud Posts: 4809
Nov 24, 2007 9:20 AM GMT
HndsmKansan, funny that you should bring this up. I had nearly the same experience tonight.

It's Friday night, 2030. Hardly anyone in the gym. Some older guy, around 60 to 65 gets a locker next to mine. I'm doing hamstrings and get done pulling stiff legs dead lifts. I go to put my lifting straps in the locker with my stuff so I don't lose them, and I'm standing there in my wresting shoes, shorts over singlet, sweating, looking at the locker next to mine which the guy has open, and he won't budge. I'm getting "cold" and he still ain't budging. He obviously sees me, DUH! Finally, I just go after after my lock. This guy gives me that typical Southerner "why are you being an asshole look." I went back and blasted standing leg curls. The guy was the typical silent, but very definite, Southern antagonism. It's rude.

Oh, by the way, did you know that in Texas, if you smile and wave, it's fine to cut across four lanes of traffic on the freeway? (SIC)
chuckystud Posts: 4809
Nov 24, 2007 9:26 AM GMT
We have a 8 million dollar gym.

Some guy decided he has jump rope in the bench area at rush hour.

It is amazing.
Nov 24, 2007 10:29 AM GMT
you know if you're the only one in the 500 locker room the next guy to come in will take the locker next to yours?

the other day i took a couple of dumbells off the rack and this guy says 'put those back i'm using them'. i said they were on the rack? he says 'so?' he says he can put them where he likes. i said it's common sense, if they're on the rack there free. i said, 'what am i a fucking mind reader? at this point a friend lead me away as the only next reaction would have been to start a fight. how ridiculous would that be? i mean i'm 43, i've never hit anyone in my life, i'm not a violent person at all but sometimes when i'm fired up in the gym and faced with some meathead arshole...

guitarboi85 Posts: 175
Nov 24, 2007 12:49 PM GMT
i usually like to take them out at the back of their knee and stand on top of them while i change
Nov 24, 2007 2:22 PM GMT
And guitarboi85 gives the winning answer! ba boom boom ...
GuiltyGear Posts: 5919
Nov 24, 2007 6:02 PM GMT
MV03, I love the older dudes, saggy balls and all; don't deprive me by making them cover up. And what you said about ripped guys wearing towels....what fantasy gym is it this happens? I personally prefer airdrying over towel drying too. I am usually able to find an older guy to chit-chat with when I do too,mmmmm.
HndsmKansan Posts: 5908
Nov 24, 2007 6:10 PM GMT
A truly interesting thread here. I'll have some things to think about today when I head into the locker room.
Nov 24, 2007 6:28 PM GMT
What is wrong with.

"if you gentlemen don't mind moving so that I can get to my locker."

"excuse me I need to get to my locker to get a badly needed nitro pill."

"is this your stuff, cause I am in a hurry and if you don't mind to move it - I appreciate that."



Nov 24, 2007 6:51 PM GMT
No cell phones permitted. The sight of one will get you thrown out of my gym so fast your head wouldn't stop spinning until you hit the ground and stopped rolling.

Again with the shock at nudity in the locker-room. Good God, how repressed are you guys?
Nov 24, 2007 7:26 PM GMT
I'm with Burninman, I say 'excuse me,' give it a few seconds and then just go. You don't want my sweaty body near you? Then move the fuck out of the way when I ask politely!

ps. my #1 pet peeve is when people don't re-rack their weights, or even worse, when they put them back in the wrong place. Honestly, are you really going to put those 45s in a spot labeled for 15s? Are you really that fucking stupid?
RoccoGiovanni Posts: 2232
Nov 27, 2007 6:39 PM GMT
Personally after waiting all that time i'd have pushed my way in and did what i needed to do with headphones on so it seemed i was oblivious. That's just me.

I would also like to say that i usually wear my headphones until the VERY last min in the locker room cause i can't stand the excessively loud conversations that sometimes occur at my gym.

Nov 27, 2007 7:26 PM GMT
Oddly, I've never actually experienced any rude behaviors at the gym (aside from feet climbing up my legs in the hot tub, but that's another story)... which probably has a lot to do with the fact that I'm in Seattle... people here are way to passive to be an overt asshole. The few interactions I've had with people have always either been helpful or just inquisitive, but for the most part we all keep to ourselves and our ipods.

Now, people hanging out naked in the locker room for half an hour like it's a gentleman's club? Oh yeah. Granted the capitol hill 24 Hour Fitness is the equivelant of a gay brothel, but for Christ's sake, just take the guy home and fuck already, stop taking up valuable space.
zdrew Posts: 2822
Nov 27, 2007 7:28 PM GMT
Most guys at my gym are pretty courteous. Once a few weeks ago, though, this older guy comes into the row I'm changing in. My locker's in a corner, so as he was approaching I looked up and made eye contact, you know, to acknowledge his presence and give him a chance to indicate if I was in his way. He walked toward the other corner, though, so I went back to my business, figuring that was that. The moment I finished up and headed out, though, he rushed into the corner I'd been in and muttered something about some people being so inconsiderate.

Huh?? When I'd given him the "you need in here?" look, he'd turned away. I think you just can't win with some people no matter what you do.

Maybe the peeing on lockers idea really is the best idea...
Nov 27, 2007 8:35 PM GMT
And if you're gonna sweat like a stuck pig, why can't you wipe the freaking bench or machine off after you're done? There's an old dude at my gym who now thinks he is really "getting" me by leaving his machines sweaty. I told him to wipe one off one day and he called me a "loser with a high school education" and stomped off in a huff. It's the first time I've ever almost gotten into a fight at my gym. If he hadn't run away so fast I probably would have.

Now he doesn't wipe off his machine, and I refer to him as the pig. I'm actually getting angry as I type this....maybe there's a meditation class or something going on right now...I think I need that...ya, meditation would be good...ohmmm.....ohmmm..hey that guy is cute...meditation classes are the best...opps, am I still typing?

FirefighterBl... Posts: 1270
Nov 27, 2007 9:12 PM GMT
courtesy in the locker room...

last night my bf and i hopped into a shower stall to clean up after working out. some old fucker with three obese low hanging boobs (two tits and belly) was walking out of the steam room with a boner, rinses off in another stall and goes back in. three minutes later he's standing at our stall peeking in past the curtain, still jacking. my bf slammed the curtain closed the inch that it was still slightly open. when we got out, he was on his ~7th "refreshing" trip from the steam room to the shower, still playing with himself. he stood there watching us drying off then returned to the steam room when we left.

disgusting. it's one thing if people show mutual attraction and flirt or get a bit playful with one another. personal vs. public. it's a whole 'nuther story when someone knows clear as black and white that you don't want him looking at you particularly when he's shifting his 3rd tit and stroking his spud in the middle of the shower room.
Nov 27, 2007 9:24 PM GMT
I had a gym rudeness first the other day. This guy was using this piece of equipment that allows you to do hanging abs leg lifts, chest dips and pull-ups. He was dong all three, alternating sets - but taking these really long rests between each set. I needed to do one quick pull-up set, so I waited until he was done with his current set and politely asked him if I could work in one quick set. And he actually said, "Yes, I do mind! I am gong through each exercise three times and I do mind!"

It would have been one thing if he was really taking quick rests and going through each exercise quickly - but he was just standing there doing nothing for long stretches of time!

I just looked at him and told him he was lame. I returned a few minutes later and saw him still standing in the machine, doing nothing, resting for a good long while. He avoided my eye contact.

It should also be noted that his form was terrible.
FirefighterBl... Posts: 1270
Nov 27, 2007 9:39 PM GMT
i quite agree, my bf and i always let people work through when we're doing long sets and we never do long rests between. most gyms have rules posted that cover this. a lot of gyms also require personal towels to be used, weights to be returned to the shelf and equipment readied for the next person to use it.

this is sort of like a "Top 10 Reasons Why Others at the Gym Hate You" list. dirty assholes stink, but good ones clean up after themselves.
redheadguy Posts: 2970
Nov 27, 2007 9:47 PM GMT
I have this very rude young Australian guy in my gym who does supersets in the gym in the morning. Now, I have one hour to get through my routine before I leave for a quick shower then breakfast and off to work so my routine is done as quickly and efficiently as possible.

But he insists on hogging the bench press even though he's doing squats on another machine. And when you go to use the bench press he comes back with, "eh, mate, I'm using that". It's like "no, you're not you're on another machine. And you're gonna be doing 30 squats for the next five minutes so let me get on with the weights." Grrr. One of these days I'm just gonna get on that bench press.
FirefighterBl... Posts: 1270
Nov 27, 2007 10:04 PM GMT
1st response: "fine, you can work in when you finish your squats on the other machine." and get on the machine

2nd: "dude, you're busy on another machine." and get on the machine

3rd: "fuck off and quit being a stingy rude prick." and get on the machine
asupas Posts: 198
Nov 27, 2007 10:38 PM GMT
/shiver. I avoid the locker room at all costs because there are so many older gentlemen at my gym that chose to walk around balls-to-the-wind. I don't need to be seeing that.
redheadguy Posts: 2970
Nov 27, 2007 10:50 PM GMT
The 1st Response will do me. Thanks.
redheadguy Posts: 2970
Nov 27, 2007 10:51 PM GMT
I avoid the locker room at all costs because there are so many older gentlemen at my gym that chose to walk around balls-to-the-wind. I don't need to be seeing that.

So you don't shower after your workout because of some old nude dudes?
asupas Posts: 198
Nov 27, 2007 11:15 PM GMT
I live close to my gym so I just shower at home. It helps me to avoid the old men, the unsanitary locker room, and the few nasty guys that are looking to hook up in the showers/steam room.
shoelessj Posts: 250
Mar 13, 2008 4:50 PM GMT
i agree with every word mv03 said.
To that, i would add:

- the guys (and gals) who pick up a pair of dumbells or a barbell then proceed to do their workout no more than 4 inches away from the rack! Hey, if the weights are so heavy that you can't move back any farther so people can pick up and put back their weights, then switch to a lighter weight!

- people who want to use the machine or bench i am on, but who don't ask to work in, they just stand right-fucking-in back of me as i am trying to work out, waiting for me to finish. I go to a pretty 'high-end' gym, excuse me, 'club,' so i can't just say, 'hey, can you move the fuck away from me'? but i wish i could. whenever i want to use a piece of equipment that someone else is using, you know what i do? i go to another, similar machine/bench, or i do a different exercise than go back there later. geez, it's not like we're olympians here!

- people who read while on a bench/machine or use their cell phones, etc. firstly, you know why you're not getting out of your workouts? because you're not working out! you wouldn't bring a dumbell to the library, would you? and you know, i think cell phones should be banned from gyms. not only because they're annoying, but because of the potential for abuse/voyeuristic picture taking.

- guys who spit in the showers. sick, disgusting pigs.



Aug 27, 2009 12:28 PM GMT
I view the locker room as primarily a place to change clothes and clean up. Now in the past 30 years or so it has also become a refuge from the busyness we've all gotten into, so I don't have a problem with watching TV and vegging and checking email or texts on your phone. And i don't have a problem if someone is doing that naked.

What I have a problem with is someone obviously exhibiting themselves. If you've got something to show, good for you! It's hard for me to blame you for strutting your stuff if you've got something to strutt. And, of course, if you've got something to strutt and you're strutting of course you're going to get checked out.

But if you're horribly unappealing like me, don't strutt. Be naked for functional reasons but not exhibitonist reasons. You know if you look good enough for oogling or not. Use the locker room for its purpose: change clothes and clean up. Leave the strutting to the hawties that are worth staring at.

I really don't think a time limit on being naked is the best way to handle this ... we uglies just need to only be naked when it's functional, and we let the handsomes/studs strutt away as they see fit.
Mikeylikesit Posts: 598
Aug 27, 2009 12:47 PM GMT
Some people are just oblivious, they think its their home gym or something...Nothing gets me more pissed then when they put their water bottle & stuff on a bench when I am trying to use it!!!....Get sum class!!
Latenight30 Posts: 340
Aug 27, 2009 1:52 PM GMT
Any of the rude behavior should always be reported. Going the a gym has rules like when you are driving and you come to a crosswalk and someone is standing there. They have the right of way. Same in a gym. Let people work in, don't lolly gag around. and WIPE YOUR NAST ASS FUNK OFF THE GD MACHINES YOU FAT FUCKERS.
Sorry... was at the gym yesterday and I swear the puppet master from Heros was in there working out, his shirt 2 colors of grey from sweat and he was slopping that stuff everywehre.
KissingPro Posts: 980
Aug 27, 2009 2:28 PM GMT
When a guy needs to use the locker next to me, I immediately move and give him all the room he needs. Willingly. And the courtesy is pretty much always returned when I need room.

On rare occasions someone will pretend he doesn't see or hear me, or when I ask, or he will reluctantly move over maybe a half an inch, as if he is bothered or something.

I just wear him down with another request to move and kill him with kindness. Its not worth sweating the little stuff with sour faces that like. A few times when someone has been really snotty about it, a few chosen words out of my mouth will effectively read them up and down, chew their head off, spit it out and shame them into moving by pointing out what idiots they are. Then they move..........far away from me.

People like that usually have no manners in the weight room either.
Aug 27, 2009 2:38 PM GMT
asupas said/shiver. I avoid the locker room at all costs because there are so many older gentlemen at my gym that chose to walk around balls-to-the-wind. I don't need to be seeing that.

I strongly object to using a locker room for cruising, and that includes the good-looking hunks doing it, as well as the old guys (which I am myself now). That's what gay bathhouses are for, and if there's none in your town, then move to where there is, but leave the regular gyms & spas out of it.

At the same time, I'll say this: a lot of us old guys come from a time when male nudity in a men's locker room meant nothing. That was the accepted place for it, while your skin cooled off & dried after a shower before dressing. We even had lounges for it, where you relaxed totally naked, a towel across an armchair while you read or watched TV without a stitch on.

If male nudity bothered you, then there was something wrong with YOU as a man, not with the naked guy who was unconcerned about it. And don't counter that the junk or bodies of old guys isn't attractive; the premise was you're not supposed to be looking and concerned about that, anyway, so what difference can it make?

This simple model gets complicated for us gay guys, of course, and it's certainly difficult to maintain our objectivity about it, I realize. But I am at least aware that many older men are not lechers, merely continuing practices they were taught as being normal from the time they were kids, swimming naked in school or YMCA pools, or at summer camps, as I was.

To which I've heard younger guys reply: "Yeah, but I don't like it. The old guys should learn the new ways." Of what, repressed behavior? That has men shamefully slinking around locker rooms like they had accidentally entered the women's by mistake? There are times when I really do think we had a better concept of masculinity decades ago than exists today.

I give every guy the benefit of the doubt. He can walk around with his bare balls on a silver platter, for all I care. But dare approach me improperly... Ah, then he's made a serious mistake. I'm a big boy who can take care of himself, and avert my eyes from ugly old naked bodies (including my own when I have to pass near a mirror).

And strangely enough, I've only had a problem with aggressive guys a few times in my life, one in a restroom I recently posted about here. I wonder how exaggerated this problem is, or are we imagining & projecting? But if I see a guy jerking off in a shower I might use, I'll likely go to the management. I haven't seen that yet.
Aug 27, 2009 4:27 PM GMT
Happened to me yesterday.


I go into the locker room after finishing up to change, and theres this dude sitting on the bench in front of my locker, completely naked, cross legged...

Reading US WEEKLY

Excuse me, do you mind sliding over a bit... I say, as I point to my locker, and I sneak in and start my combination.

What does this guy do, scoots over a whopping 5 inches. with his bag and towel on taking up the other end of the bench.

My response.... fuck it. If this guy wants to be a complete asshole, he can have it. I just strip down, bareass naked (literally my ass is probably a foot from him) put on my flip flops and then put my towel on, march to the shower.

I come back from the shower, he's at a different bench, this time clothed, but still reading.

wtf is this? A locker room or the library at Sweet Valley High?
KissingPro Posts: 980
Aug 28, 2009 3:30 PM GMT
gibby320 said

My response.... fuck it. If this guy wants to be a complete asshole, he can have it. I just strip down, bareass naked (literally my ass is probably a foot from him) put on my flip flops and then put my towel on, march to the shower.


It would have been even better if you let out a fart right into his face.
Mikeylikesit Posts: 598
Aug 28, 2009 3:35 PM GMT
gibby320 saidHappened to me yesterday.


I go into the locker room after finishing up to change, and theres this dude sitting on the bench in front of my locker, completely naked, cross legged...

Reading US WEEKLY

Excuse me, do you mind sliding over a bit... I say, as I point to my locker, and I sneak in and start my combination.

What does this guy do, scoots over a whopping 5 inches. with his bag and towel on taking up the other end of the bench.

My response.... fuck it. If this guy wants to be a complete asshole, he can have it. I just strip down, bareass naked (literally my ass is probably a foot from him) put on my flip flops and then put my towel on, march to the shower.

I come back from the shower, he's at a different bench, this time clothed, but still reading.

wtf is this? A locker room or the library at Sweet Valley High?


Well...Atleast he wasnt reading the Newyork times on the tread mill like I have seen guys in my gym...LMAO....
cowboyathlete Posts: 973
Aug 28, 2009 3:40 PM GMT
Most of the time, these are the same trolls who are about as far away from competitive bodybuilding as you can get.
torontoguy222... Posts: 315
Aug 28, 2009 3:56 PM GMT
Wow, some people are just assholes! Maybe my gym is populated with overly friendly/civil people (it IS a university gym after all), but whenever I've had to get to my locker no one has ever hesitated to shift over a tad. I do the same. Even if I'm not necessarily sitting in front of someone's locker, I like to shift over a bit to give everyone a bit of space. It's just common courtesy.
Aug 28, 2009 4:08 PM GMT
gibby320 saidHappened to me yesterday.


I go into the locker room after finishing up to change, and theres this dude sitting on the bench in front of my locker, completely naked, cross legged...

Reading US WEEKLY

Excuse me, do you mind sliding over a bit... I say, as I point to my locker, and I sneak in and start my combination.

What does this guy do, scoots over a whopping 5 inches. with his bag and towel on taking up the other end of the bench.

My response.... fuck it. If this guy wants to be a complete asshole, he can have it. I just strip down, bareass naked (literally my ass is probably a foot from him) put on my flip flops and then put my towel on, march to the shower.

I come back from the shower, he's at a different bench, this time clothed, but still reading.

wtf is this? A locker room or the library at Sweet Valley High?


Am I the only one turned on by the vision of gibby bareass and wearing flip-flops?
Explorersea Posts: 16
Nov 07, 2009 3:17 PM GMT
to be honest I have delayed getting dressed/undressed, but only if the dude next to me is picking up my vibes and enjoyen it, if he isnt interested, I get my stuff and move on out of courtesy! locker rooms can be so dam erotic!
Nov 07, 2009 3:27 PM GMT
That same shit happened to me yesterday!!! I went back out and did a few more reps to waste time....

And why is it that all the nasty looking guys like to strip down bare and fowl up the air when I'm in there and not a once has a super hot guy been so kind.
Celticmusl Posts: 981
Nov 07, 2009 3:43 PM GMT
Wow, this is an ooooooolllldddd post.

I have been working at a gym for over three years. If you get two or three guys together shooting the breeze than you're screwed if you expect any kind of consideration or politeness.

Outside the locker room they will go to machine to machine....usually monopolize that one machine for 20 minutes while they are just sitting around talking. Oh, and guess what they are sitting on? Other machines. Over and over people ask them to move and they oblige, but a couple minutes later they are all sitting on the machines again. Sometimes I will joke "are you guys going to work out today?" in a polite manner.....but what Im really thinking is "if you're not working out, other people are, so get the F out".

Also, this group will rarely if ever put their weights away. It's hilarious these grown men, muscle head's, can't even pick up after themselves and put a weight back in its proper place. I have no idea how these guys have ever gotten any muscle at all, they are the laziest guys in the gym and they can't lift the weights back to their rightful place. I'm starting to wonder if most of these guys belong to another gym where they actually work out, and come to our place just to BS.
Nov 07, 2009 3:45 PM GMT
joeyveras saidThat same shit happened to me yesterday!!! I went back out and did a few more reps to waste time....

And why is it that all the nasty looking guys like to strip down bare and fowl up the air when I'm in there and not a once has a super hot guy been so kind.


Hot guys know they are hot and don't have to do this. Only the guys with small cocks and flat wide asses parade around the locker rooms in all of their naked glory
CuriousJockAZ Posts: 3652
Nov 07, 2009 4:08 PM GMT
Hndsm, you must have the patience of a saint. I would have given them about 10 seconds to get the hint before letting out a not so subtle EXCUUUUSE ME can I get in here?
chuckystud Posts: 4809
Nov 07, 2009 4:09 PM GMT
HndsmKansan saidI was in the locker room of my local YMCA after a workout and arrived to find a couple of older gentleman (old enough to be my father) in the lockers directly adjacent to the one I was using. I was actually in a corner of the locker room, not where I usually store my clothes (because it is tight there), but my usual locker area was being used.

I waited a moment for these men to finish, set my water bottle down and ran an errand, came back and waited a moment. One of the men finally said "You need in here"? I said "yeah" and made a comment about your neighbor always showing up in these cases
when your using your locker, even if the whole locker room was empty.. and sort of chuckled.

Neither moved their stuff and I waited...and waited and actually chatted with another gentleman I know and he even asked me what I was doing. Finally the one guy went to the shower and I got in and changed clothes
(without a shower) and got ready to go.

About the time I was ready to leave the guy returned from the shower and made a comment to his friend about
how long some people take to change (it was been honestly 2 or 3 minutes for me to change clothes).
It takes alot for me to get irritated, but I almost told them off. I think I probably should have just said, "Can you move down please so I can get in and get my stuff"....

I feel that if someone comes up and needs to get in an adjoining locker, you get your stuff and move over ASAP
so they can get in. Its the polite thing to do. I can't imagine doing anything else. I also don't care what the age of the person is... 65, 20 or whatever, a person should always show courtesy. Your thoughts?


You're right. It's not just middle-aged, and young, folks that can be assholes. Courtesy seems to be a lost talent, especially in The South.
Nov 07, 2009 4:10 PM GMT
I wish guys would just stop leaving their dirty underwear in the lockers when they leave
Nov 07, 2009 4:13 PM GMT

Yeah, what everybody else said. A lot of times people just pick up on hints or body language, but I find that saying things explicitly avoids a lot of misunderstandings in the gym. Sometimes people will take up two machines at once; they'll be working on the cable crossover pull, but they left their towel and water and everything all over the leg abduction machine. So I'll say to the nearest person "Do you know who this belongs to?" or "Are you done with this machine?" And they'll usually say something like "I was going to do one more set." That at least puts them on notice that they can't monopolize two machines at once for the next hour, and they typically finish up fast. Same in the locker room. I find most people aren't mind-readers and they can't even pick up hints very well, so it's best to ask explicitly (in a nice way).
Nov 07, 2009 4:17 PM GMT
Had I been one of these "older gentlemen" I would've continued blocking the locker in the hopes of secretly ogling HndsmKansan just a little longer. I mean, I don't get to check out that kinda glory everyday. Or perhaps I would've made room so that he could get ready for his shower.

Oh, decisions, decisions!
jawrhed Posts: 614
Nov 07, 2009 4:21 PM GMT
I make room when a guys comes to locker near me. If guys don't move thier stuff, I move it myself. Sometimes they don't even know it, sometimes they apologize and help me make room.
Nov 07, 2009 10:58 PM GMT
HndsmKansan saidI was in the locker room of my local YMCA after a workout and arrived to find a couple of older gentleman (old enough to be my father) in the lockers directly adjacent to the one I was using. I was actually in a corner of the locker room, not where I usually store my clothes (because it is tight there), but my usual locker area was being used.

I waited a moment for these men to finish, set my water bottle down and ran an errand, came back and waited a moment. One of the men finally said "You need in here"? I said "yeah" and made a comment about your neighbor always showing up in these cases
when your using your locker, even if the whole locker room was empty.. and sort of chuckled.

Neither moved their stuff and I waited...and waited and actually chatted with another gentleman I know and he even asked me what I was doing. Finally the one guy went to the shower and I got in and changed clothes
(without a shower) and got ready to go.

About the time I was ready to leave the guy returned from the shower and made a comment to his friend about
how long some people take to change (it was been honestly 2 or 3 minutes for me to change clothes).
It takes alot for me to get irritated, but I almost told them off. I think I probably should have just said, "Can you move down please so I can get in and get my stuff"....

I feel that if someone comes up and needs to get in an adjoining locker, you get your stuff and move over ASAP
so they can get in. Its the polite thing to do. I can't imagine doing anything else. I also don't care what the age of the person is... 65, 20 or whatever, a person should always show courtesy. Your thoughts?

If I were quick witted enough, I would have liked to have said something like: "How long it takes some to change their clothes, but how quickly others become irritated." And then gone into explaining how long and patiently I had waited for him....how it would have been considerate of him to have made room for me when I first arrived, etc.

I would have striven for two objectives: 1) to make the situation and my point of view abundantly clear, and 2) to have take so long to have made my point that it would have "cost" him so dearly to have irritated me that making room for me in the future would be so much easier than listening to it again. He would have paid so dearly in listening to my reply that he would never make such a comment again.

People seldom piss Caslon off twice.
Nov 07, 2009 11:21 PM GMT
God this thread is old. >.<
I'm glad I go to a small gym. I change in the lavatory or the room with the shower. (Both are small rooms suitable for only one individual.) ^_^
I don't like undressing in front of people- and I don't enjoy seeing them get undressed as well. It's all good.
makavelli Posts: 254
Nov 08, 2009 8:04 AM GMT
Just reading the first post I have to say I'm surprised they didn't move as soon as they knew you needed the space.

The one time relating I had was when I was talking to a friend's mom I had run into at the gym, and as soon as I started talking to her, an old man (like way into 70s, no offence) just pushed me from behind to get out of his way... I guess when I went to the area with all people's stuff he had snuck in behind me right on my heels so when I stopped he had nowhere to go but forward (it happens I guess). Of course I apologized but the look on my friend's mother's face was like "oh my God, the nerve!".





There's a line misattributed to Voltaire "common sense isn't so common" that I think applies.
wouldlikemusc... Posts: 24
Nov 08, 2009 8:22 AM GMT
I recognise that one OP.

I wait about a minute tops I guess before I just close their locker door a little so I can unlock my own.
Most people are usually quite courteous though when it comes to moving... except when the room's full, but then that's understandable.. can't move stuff out of the way if there's no space to move it to right.
wushu18t Posts: 104
Nov 08, 2009 8:48 AM GMT
when i see someone busy or standing next to the locker i'm using i usually use the restroom or wash hands to give a little extra time, but that's it. i just walk directly towards my locker and say "excuse me" and promptly get my stuff. i take my stuff and find space for me to change. sometimes they move for me. i don't play the waiting game to get noticed and hope they have "manners". moving in courteously and directly and saying "excuse me" quickly moves the whole situation along. never had a problem. if somone EVER has any problem with this they are the pricks and i will have a few quick words for them.
Nov 16, 2009 5:29 PM GMT
I've generally found most to be considerate and ask 'Am I in your way?' and they politely move. Or I'll usually say 'excuse me, can I get in here'.

Most of the time guys (at my gym anyway) have manners.
HndsmKansan Posts: 5908
Nov 16, 2009 5:54 PM GMT
GuiltyGear saidHansan, I know this may not be the time or the thread, but i have a major crush on you. From the moment i saw that pic of you draped across that bench I was hooked. You look so sexy, so confident, so MY FRIGGEN TYPE! Honey,your sundrenched body in that photo commands respect which is why i'm surprised to hear of this shyness or was it it "coyness" tehe, that you displayed at the gym.



I forgot Guilty wrote this..... how nice! LOL
citylife Posts: 22
Nov 16, 2009 5:56 PM GMT
It goes both ways... you have to be assertive and ask people politely to move, just as people should politely ask if they are in the way and move if they sense you are waiting.
HndsmKansan Posts: 5908
Nov 16, 2009 6:13 PM GMT
CuriousJockAZ once saidHndsm, you must have the patience of a saint.




I'm so glad to hear you say this as well..... some of the nice things that you can dig up on RJ...
G_Force Posts: 918
Nov 16, 2009 10:30 PM GMT
People are so inconsiderate today and bugs me too.