Republican Congressman blasts MJ for being a "pervert" on eve of funeral

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    Jul 06, 2009 2:03 PM GMT
    These Republicans just get weirder and weirder:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31760415/ns/entertainment-music/

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    Jul 06, 2009 2:33 PM GMT
    yeah, he's a jackass
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    Jul 06, 2009 2:40 PM GMT
    What a shock! I guess he was watching. Jerk!~
  • GQjock

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    Jul 06, 2009 2:46 PM GMT
    Oh that's Peter King

    He's an idiot
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    Jul 06, 2009 2:46 PM GMT
    No, no, no. Not pervert - pedophile. Those damn Republicans can't get anything right.
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    Jul 06, 2009 2:50 PM GMT
    RowBuddy saidI would think that anyone, republican or democrat, would recognize he was a pervert.


    Agreed. While it may be undeniable that Peter King is an ass, it is also undeniable that MJ was a pervert and almost certainly a pedophile.
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    Jul 06, 2009 2:50 PM GMT
    RowBuddy, the son of the first parents to extort money from MJ has already admitted he lied under pressure from his parents. I'm not surprised that Republicans overlook extortion.
  • Tiller66

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    Jul 06, 2009 2:50 PM GMT
    Well since he is disreguarding the innocent verdict in MJ's trial maybe he also thinks that OJ did it?
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    Jul 06, 2009 2:51 PM GMT
    hockeytiger said
    RowBuddy saidI would think that anyone, republican or democrat, would recognize he was a pervert.


    Agreed. While it may be undeniable that Peter King is an ass, it is also undeniable that MJ was a pervert and almost certainly a pedophile.


    agree
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 06, 2009 2:54 PM GMT
    hockeytiger said
    RowBuddy saidI would think that anyone, republican or democrat, would recognize he was a pervert.


    Agreed. While it may be undeniable that Peter King is an ass, it is also undeniable that MJ was a pervert and almost certainly a pedophile.


    Sorry, you can be as judgmental as you like but it is NOT undeniable. This is the kind of mind set that probably led Michael to sadness and pain and ultimately his death. Even after being acquitted of all charges, the charges still stuck in many minds. Michael was different, tortured, a boy stuck in a brilliant man's body, but I don't believe he was a pervert.
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    Jul 06, 2009 3:03 PM GMT
    Oh, that is just Peter King being Peter King. That man is a brand of crazy they should discontinue.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jul 06, 2009 3:05 PM GMT
    I think the whole discussion is pretty unfortunate, especially for an elected official. I don't care what party he's affiliated with.
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    Jul 06, 2009 3:22 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    hockeytiger said
    RowBuddy saidI would think that anyone, republican or democrat, would recognize he was a pervert.


    Agreed. While it may be undeniable that Peter King is an ass, it is also undeniable that MJ was a pervert and almost certainly a pedophile.


    Sorry, you can be as judgmental as you like but it is NOT undeniable. This is the kind of mind set that probably led Michael to sadness and pain and ultimately his death. Even after being acquitted of all charges, the charges still stuck in many minds. Michael was different, tortured, a boy stuck in a brilliant man's body, but I don't believe he was a pervert.


    MJ's own admission that his strong desire to receive pleasure from sleeping in a bed with children (other people's children at that) shows that he is undeniably a pervert.

    Being acquitted means nothing concerning one's actions. All it means is that a jury found that there was not enough evidence to punish him for his actions. That doesn't mean he wasn't a pedophile. Acquttial merely means the state did not meet its burden.

    I will freely admit that it is deniable that he was a pedophile (though I think anyone who doesn't, at least, strongly suspect he was, is living in denial). But it is not denialable that he was a pervert unless you think receiving pleasure from sleeping in a bed with other people's children and actively recruiting children for that purpose is not perverted.
  • dannyboy1101

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    Jul 06, 2009 3:23 PM GMT
    I will say that the media coverage is ridiculous. They're talking out both sides of their mouths because a couple months ago they'd be calling him "Jacko" or a freak or pervert or whatever and now that he's dead everyone loves him and finds him to be an inspiration. What??!!

    How fake. And what of Farrah Fawcett who died the same day. If it was a slow news day, shouldn't it be a 50/50 split? If one went only by the news coverage, when MJ died Iran became a country of peace singing "Daboo dorays" while holding hands with the Grinch (Ahmadinejad). Priorities, people!
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    Jul 06, 2009 3:49 PM GMT
    dannyboy1101 saidI will say that the media coverage is ridiculous. They're talking out both sides of their mouths because a couple months ago they'd be calling him "Jacko" or a freak or pervert or whatever and now that he's dead everyone loves him and finds him to be an inspiration. What??!!

    How fake. And what of Farrah Fawcett who died the same day. If it was a slow news day, shouldn't it be a 50/50 split? If one went only by the news coverage, when MJ died Iran became a country of peace singing "Daboo dorays" while holding hands with the Grinch (Ahmadinejad). Priorities, people!


    Why should it be 50/50?

    MJJ was a much bigger star than Farrah. He changed the face of music--he was an influential international music icon--and did his share of humitarian work. His accomplishments dwarf Farrah's.

    Farrah passed away after an extended struggle with cancer. (May her soul RIP.) Michael died suddenly. So, of course, people are curious about facts.

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    Jul 06, 2009 3:57 PM GMT
    Peter King? How can he blast MJ when he's so busy calling Brett Favre 24/7?

    Oh, THAT Peter King ...
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    Jul 06, 2009 3:59 PM GMT
    Peter King is an idiot. Regardless of his opinion, he should have the decency to respect MJJ's family and fans.
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    Jul 06, 2009 4:05 PM GMT
    hockeytiger said
    But it is not denialable that he was a pervert unless you think receiving pleasure from sleeping in a bed with other people's children and actively recruiting children for that purpose is not perverted.


    That is your opinion. Sorry, but your opinion doesn't make anything undeniable. It IS deniable because you do not know anything to be true. Michael sleeping in bed with someone else's kids does NOT mean he is having sex with them -- period. Michael did not say he "gets sexual pleasure" from sleeping in bed with kids. Who knows if he did or not, but it's certainly not undeniable.

    As for Michael and Farrah getting 50/50 coverage, there is really no comparison in their careers or their affect on the world other than that they were both in show business. Farrah was a blonde bombshell and a decent actress who made her mark via Charlie's Angel's and a sexy swimsuit poster that made her a household name. She was hardly iconic, though her long very public struggle with cancer certainly earned her the respect of millions. Michael on the other hand was the biggest star the world has ever seen. He changed music and show business, and he left a mark on the world that will live for generations. His sudden, tragic death made his story all the more newsworthy. I will certainly be glued to the TV to watch tomorrow's memorial service, and I suspect the worldwide audience will rival that of Diana's funeral.
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    Jul 06, 2009 4:08 PM GMT
    Well said CJ!icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 06, 2009 5:09 PM GMT
    What are the men and women overseas fighting for? To knock out a variable, let's just say the wars in the Middle East and the War on Terror is making the Unisted States safer.

    What is the point of their sacrifice if we Americans at home can't enjoy ourselves? What is the point of culture?

    No doubt, Michael had a huge impact on our musical culture--culture and music is very important to millions of people. MJ was a global icon spanning race, gender, age, ethniticity, sexual orientation, etc. What is so wrong with aknowledging his achievements?

    Furthermore, I believe MJ is misunderstood by many people. His upbringing most likily caused him to develope differently. I'm not a psychologist, but I'd be interested in what a group of them would say after analyizing his life. MJ may have broken some social norms, but I do not believe he molested any child. Then again, I was obviuosly not there.

    Finally, Republicans always seem to complain that the military is not getting enough praise. How much praise are we suppose to give? How much time do we spend giving thanks?

    During the Civil War and WWI/WWII American soldiers were dropping like flies. We should feel lucky we have so little caualties.

    If I were a veteran, I'd be happy with the "thank you's" from the public for fighting and "protecting" America, but i wouldn't expect a thank you from every single American. I'd want people to go on with their lives and be happy. Expecting gratitude, in my eyes, shows excessive pride and arrogance. But many soldiers are not like that.
  • coolarmydude

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    Jul 06, 2009 5:12 PM GMT
    Well maybe the death of troops in combat would be a bigger deal if these same Republicans weren't up in arms over pictures and videos of flag-draped coffins returning back to the states. They can't have it both ways.
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    Jul 06, 2009 5:15 PM GMT
    cjcartist1984 saidIf I were a veteran, I'd be happy with the "thank you's" from the public for fighting and "protecting" America, but i wouldn't expect a thank you from every single American. I'd want people to go on with their lives and be happy. Expecting gratitude, in my eyes, shows excessive pride and arrogance. But many soldiers are not like that.


    I do, but I get floored when I hear my battle buddies complaining about how they perceive the lack of support and I ask them about all the different ways that Americans say thank you. Of course, they have no answer to that.
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    Jul 06, 2009 5:23 PM GMT
    coolarmydude said
    cjcartist1984 saidIf I were a veteran, I'd be happy with the "thank you's" from the public for fighting and "protecting" America, but i wouldn't expect a thank you from every single American. I'd want people to go on with their lives and be happy. Expecting gratitude, in my eyes, shows excessive pride and arrogance. But many soldiers are not like that.


    I do, but I get floored when I hear my battle buddies complaining about how they perceive the lack of support and I ask them about all the different ways that Americans say thank you. Of course, they have no answer to that.


    I think many have a hard time seperating soldiers from those in higher command... in cluding the president.

    I believe someone can support the troops while opposing the war statics and plans of those in control.

    many people cannot seperate the two. War protesters do not have any problem with soldiers--soldiers do not plan military operations. Protesters have trouble with the president and his Joint Chiefs.

    One can oppose the war and still hope that the solidiers come home safetly. On can oppose the war and still meet soldiers at airports, after flying home, and thank them for their service.

    Your buddies may be looking too deeply into tall these war protesters.

    That's just my view.
  • kinetic

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    Jul 06, 2009 5:23 PM GMT
    Cleary MJ has a lot to do with politics.
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    Jul 06, 2009 5:24 PM GMT
    So republicans are STILL playing the politics of distraction? I wonder what he is up to.

    They were almost able to craft a compliant "idiot nation" that only cares about this crap, but something happened along the way...too many people got fucked. But they're taking a while to realize this because, well, everything associated with change sets in the mind much slower when you strive to "conserve" rather than "progress". Republicans are still in denial about the actual ability of this country to rise above obsessing over things that don't actually matter.

    We'll never know if MJ was a pervert of not. Too many people connected to him were liars and scumbags, so who could you trust on this?