Is there such thing as the hierarchy of the gymrats ?

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    Nov 23, 2007 10:29 PM GMT
    Something just happened to me in my gym not long ago. I was at a bench doing my weight. After finish the first set and just drop my weights, a bigger built guy, who just finished a long talk with his friends at another corner, brought he's weight and ask me to leave the bench. I told him there are other bench around, But he said he previously set the height of this one and so he need it. I guess i did not sniff first to find out it was taken a long time ago.

    I'm not those slow guys when I do my sets. And it's not like I didn't notice if people has been waiting around me for the same equipment. But i've noticed over and over, if someone want to jump in instead of wait politely, they are usually bigger then me. I've never once had a smaller guy ask to cut my routine. Has anyone else notice how this "gym social psychology" of hierarchy? That the bigger you are, the more you own "right of way" to gym?

  • HndsmKansan

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    Nov 23, 2007 11:59 PM GMT
    Well if that situation happened to me, I would make a quick assessment... Did the guy have any reasonable claim to what he stated. If he was injured in some manner or was really ameable about wanting to finish with that bench (like the end of his workout), I probably would jump up and let him finish.

    If I thought (for a second) that it was some f*!wad trying to "muscle" his way in, he would be told to "wait until I'm through or go somewhere else"...
    And I wouldn't hesitate.

    Be reasonable, but don't be intimidated. You have as much a right to be there as me or anyone else!
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    Nov 24, 2007 3:29 AM GMT
    Is there a hierarchy, yes honey, there is! I know because i have been throwing my weight around in gyms for five years. However, it might have been poetic justice when i lost ten pounds of muscle due to an injury. That makes a big difference, lol, luckily 215 is still huge.icon_twisted.gif
  • GQjock

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    Nov 24, 2007 3:43 AM GMT
    There is a fine line between being courteous and being stepped on
    ... if someone is being unreasonable call them on it
    as in all gyms there are obnoxious people
    guys who hog weights or a station
    super-setting during very busy times at the gym
    and so on
    ... but stand up for yourself but be polite about it too
  • zakariahzol

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    Nov 24, 2007 4:38 AM GMT
    I have that experiences. This guy is dorminating the same danm leg machine the entire nite. It must be his leg days of something. Common, other people pay for their entrance fee too. When I try to used it ,when he pause for a break, he like yelling at me to keep out and put the machine at it original weight. I finally leave the gym for good and join other gym with less cocky people and friendlier folk. A lot of this gym rat are nothing more than dumbbell head and obsess with thier body and nothing else. I have a friend who so obsses with lifting weight and end up getting fired when he is in the gym when he suppose to be at work.
  • Timbales

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    Nov 24, 2007 4:44 AM GMT
    I usually will ask someone if they want to work in their sets with mine on selectorized equipment if I think they are waiting for me. If I see someone using a piece of equipment and they leave it, I'll usually ask if they were done before I hop on.

    I work out in a fairly small gym where most everyone is pretty nice and you don't have to wait too long for a piece of equipment to open up.
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    Nov 24, 2007 4:53 AM GMT
    Yeah, i guess i could recommend that people choose more carefully when they pick gyms; the larger more commercial ones often do attract the jerks, smaller gyms often have nicer people who aren't name chasers and therefore easier to get along with. They aren't so shallow.
  • Timbales

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    Nov 24, 2007 5:02 AM GMT
    I really do love my gym. It's very laid back, clean and very nice. It caters to a local business park.
  • Nef_Pop

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    Nov 24, 2007 6:14 AM GMT
    If there actually is a gym hierarchy I wouldn’t know… although I usually do give way to larger built guys for multiple reasons icon_wink.gif jk but like everyone has been saying, don’t let anyone intimidate you, and if all else fails I recommend bringing a much larger work out buddy like me, he really boosts my confidence icon_biggrin.gif
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    Nov 24, 2007 6:24 AM GMT
    I LOVE the gym, and to be honest if someone said that to me I'd tell them to fucking wait it out until I'm finished.

    No there is no such thing as power in my world, you earn your respect and your place- it's not given.

    - Javier
  • gymingit

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    Nov 24, 2007 7:18 AM GMT
    I wasn't there and I definitely have no idea what was going through the guys head..... it's like they've said already, just don't let someone walk all over you. But, it's polite to ask and he did explain why.

    Now that I've been in the gym for the last year, I've gotten to know the owners very well and have made friends with or met most of the "regulars" per se. In doing so, people see me as a "regular" and things go much smoother in that respect. I also live in a southern town of about 70K. It's a small town and most of the guys in the gym are polite.

    Of course there are a few dicks, one nicknamed "Hollywood" who I believe is very very very closeted. My trainer told me no woman is good enough for him. That sealed it...lol

    As a side note, my trainer knows I'm gay and we kid each other all the time. He told me not long ago he took on a few more cheerleaders from the university; explaining to his wife he's trying to turn me back. lol
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    Nov 24, 2007 7:25 AM GMT
    If there is a hierarchy, eff it! It isn't high school. You're gay, you go against the flow. Embrace it. Stupid social preconceptions are ridiculous (of course, I'm probably just not broken by the system yet).
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    Nov 24, 2007 8:59 AM GMT
    LOL. Oh man.

    Yeah, there's a hierarchy: assholes, and non-assholes. LOL

    Two problems here:
    1. You expected exclusive use of the equipment. You shouldn't. There's a new concept; it's called sharing.

    2. The guy was a jerk.

    At 5'5" and sometimes 230, but, usually between 195 and 205, folks always look like they are little intimidated. I try to put them at ease, but, let them know how to play nicely. I say, "You are certainly welcome to work in with me. I do not require exclusive use of the equipment." That shows class, consideration, and common sense, and it sets an expectation that they behave like adults instead of first graders.

    First weight room I was in had ONE bench. Second weight room had three benches. We HAD to SHARE. It's a concept folks have forgotten.

    Some folks at the gym are so clueless it is AMAZING. A broad tied up TWO benches the other day doing 8# triceps kickbacks. One for her kickbacks, and the other for her stuff. GURR. It absolutely pisses me off when folks stand in front of me while I'm doing flies. DOUBLE-GURR. It chaps my ass candy-apple red when those guys drag the 20,25,30, and 35s to the other of the gym, and leave. TRIPLE-GURR. What really chaps me is when some guy 6'4", leaves 5 plates on each side of the bar in the power rack and it's leg day. QUADRUPLE-GURR. Or, when my friend, Joe, gets to thinking he's extra special; it's leg day; he's leaves 24 plates on each side of the damn leg press! QUINTUPLE-GURR.

    After January 1, until about Easter, let the STUPID GYM MEMBER playoffs begin!

    In all seriousness, THINK when in the gym. It'll go a lot smoother, and...get past the concept of I,I,I,me,me, me constantly.
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    Nov 24, 2007 9:02 AM GMT
    It starts again after every break here, Chucky! Stupid school gyms, but luckily we have one of the best facilities in the states. It makes me want to be a grad student FOREVER!!!
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    Nov 24, 2007 9:04 AM GMT
    I think there should be a law: Gym Courtesy 101 pre-workout etiquette training, before you step on the weight room floor.

    It is amazing how clueless some folks are, AND, it's gotten worse!

    I try to lead by example.
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    Nov 24, 2007 6:23 PM GMT
    just to make clear that I make sure no one has been using or around the machine when i get to it. I mean, there should be a rule that if you leave the machine after a 1-2 mins. then you kinda loose the "temporary" rights to the thing. it's only polite to wait for the next person to leave, before you go back.
    as for my situation, that guy flatly tell me to leave, it shows he has no consideration for what i was doing. I could either fight with him, or I just give him what he want, for the sake of peace. I hate making a scene, and even if i won, I wont' feel good anyway, so i leave.

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    Nov 24, 2007 6:45 PM GMT
    If there's a hierarchy at my gym, I'm at the top of it by virtue of my trainer being seriously huge and intimidating. However, I work out at 10am, and the other people there are mostly housewives and retired or self-employed men. Late afternoon is when the testosterone really flows down in the weight room, and I'm nowhere near there at that hour.

    If you're having trouble with a hierarchy of assholes, you might try going at a different time.
  • liftordie

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    Nov 24, 2007 6:52 PM GMT
    i was always taught to 'share my toys' if someone asks to work in, especially on a machine i am more than happy to oblige. and i expect the same treatment. the only thing that really makes me go off is when someone is sitting on a machine 'between sets' talking on their cell phone!! i just about lose it. leave the phone in the locker. if you wanna chat on the phone there are plenty of chairs near the snack bar area. go sit ur ass in one!
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    Nov 24, 2007 7:21 PM GMT
    I had a guy do this to me, I told him I was only taking 30 second rests, and would be done within the next minute. He tried the "working in" approach and got kinda belligerent so I insisted that he wait his turn and if he didn't like it he could go explain to management how he was trying to take over a machine from another paying member. He'd been talking with his friend quite loudly the entire time I was there. What's another minute of not working out?

    These people are usually overcompensating for something and they're the same guys who scream and groan when pressing 15 lbs. How'd they get so big? Lots and lots of anabolic goodies.
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    Nov 24, 2007 11:19 PM GMT
    @liftordie! Haha, that was pretty fun. I completely agree with you, I leave my cell phone in my locker as well. I'm there to get down to business when it comes down to my body- not sit my ass down and chat.

    I totally hate that too! :^p

    - Javier
  • MSUBioNerd

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    Nov 25, 2007 12:03 AM GMT
    There are certainly a few guys who act like there's a hierarchy at the gym, in that big guys should get however much equipment they want as soon as they want it. Too bad for them when the run into me. If they want to work in on a machine I'm using, they're welcome to do so, but they're not going to kick me off. If they want to use a bench while I'm trying to do bench presses or the like, I tell them I'll alternate with one of them if he'll switch the plates because he obviously will want more weight than I will. I've only had one obnoxious guy try to tell me that scrawny guys like me are the lowest priority in a weight room and I should confine myself to the the treadmill when there are real men present. I looked him in the eye and told him that if he was convinced that his argument was persuasive, he was welcome to go get one of the gym staff members, and he or she could tell me why my membership dues were worth less than his were. He actually scratched his head and asked if I was seriously telling him he couldn't use the bench right away. I told him yes, I was saying he had to wait his turn like everyone else. He shook his head and walked away, no doubt to try to find some other thin guy to intimidate. I saw him maybe a couple of times later that week, and haven't seen him since.

    Thankfully, guys like that are rare, and most big guys seem fine when in response to how many sets I have left I say something like "2 more sets on this machine" or "I've got a bunch because I'm using this bench for multiple exercises, but we can alternate sets if you'd like"
  • liftordie

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    Nov 25, 2007 12:06 AM GMT
    thanks JoeJ if i took my phone onto the floor i would never get anything done. there are times when you should be able to escape your real life!!
  • HndsmKansan

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    Nov 25, 2007 12:08 AM GMT
    So MSUBioNerd (or any others) what if you had a very nice looking, hot man who came up and wanted to use your equipment to complete his workout and gave you a great smile???

    What would you do? Curious
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    Nov 25, 2007 3:08 AM GMT
    My mp3 / aac player is built right into my cell phone. The web farm sends me a text if it hiccups. The Internet never sleeps. Like it, or not, cell phones serve a function. It's the lack of sensitivity of urban folks that is the issue, across the board. They've never been taught consideration, and courtesy. They are I,I,I,me,me,me.
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    Nov 25, 2007 3:53 AM GMT
    telling you to leave is different from asking to work in. You should have just said no you aren't leaving.