RJ and Religion

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    Jul 07, 2009 10:27 PM GMT
    After reading some posts I've found various views on religion here, and I was wondering what are the foundations for your belief, which does include a lack there of. Was it a strong up bringing? Going to Catholic schools? Or just feeling alienated from religion? Where do you stand?

    Personally, I was raised Greek Orthodox. But after some reading and talking to friends I became a spiritualist drawing from Orthodoxy, Hinduism, and Buddhism. I personally don't believe in a single conscious divine being that created life, but a force or energy that connects all of us. The gods we worship and follow are just our own manifestations of that energy.

    So, what do you believe. And why do you, or don't you, believe it?
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    Jul 07, 2009 10:35 PM GMT
    Raised Roman Catholic in the US, went to private Catholic schools until I was 16. Attended a Jesuit prep school for boys, and couldn't stand it anymore. Rebelled, was placed in a secular private boys prep school, and deliberately flunked out of that. Finished my last 2 years in a public high school, much to my parent's chagrin.

    I have no religious beliefs anymore, though oddly I do belong to an MCC. I see it as a social opportunity, not a religious one, and don't believe a single thing they say. Blasphemous, because I sometimes read the lesson from the pulpit, just for the personal pleasure of using my public speaking voice.

    I am a whore on many levels. icon_redface.gif
  • creature

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    Jul 07, 2009 10:41 PM GMT
    My mom is Muslim. My dad is Roman Catholic. I went to a private school and was raised as a Seventh Day Adventist.

    Feeling guilty for not keeping the Sabbath Holy (i.e. watching tv on Friday nights and Saturday mornings and working on Saturdays), I declared myself as "Christian."

    But now I'm a Quaker, and I love it. It's the perfect religion for me.
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    Jul 07, 2009 10:42 PM GMT
    I believe I'm hungry

    But god wont give me food

    I have to go make it myself..
  • GQjock

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    Jul 07, 2009 11:09 PM GMT
    I was raised in a Roman Catholic family
    did all the rituals .... even did a stint as an altar boy
    and No I wasn't molested

    But as I learned about the history of the Church and of all religion across the ages and watched the hatred and the violence that it not only condones but Perpetuates
    I have seen what a lie and evil there is in most organized religions

    I no longer believe in God in any sense of the old meaning
    I believe we are here on this earth for a short time
    and it is "godly" or "god-like" for each of us to be kind and gentle to everyone who comes into our lives
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    Jul 07, 2009 11:46 PM GMT
    GQjock saidI was raised in a Roman Catholic family
    did all the rituals .... even did a stint as an altar boy
    and No I wasn't molested

    Nor was I, won't make a claim to a popular belief just because it's widespread. At the same time, I do think my Jesuit teachers were sexually repressed and fucked up big time. They beat us physically to an extent that today would land them in jail.

    I was also an altar boy, still remember the Latin Mass we had to recite. Also meatless Fridays, and being told not to associate with Protestant kids our own age, which would condemn us to Hell. As for Jews, well, they didn't even exist. Hard to believe the Catholic Church actually used to tell kids these things.
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    Jul 08, 2009 1:28 AM GMT
    Raised as a Roman Catholic....


    Now I'm Agnostic.

    I love science and look to it for ways to explain the world around me.

    Science cannot explain everything right now though. Is this because:

    1. Science will never be able to explain everything? Spirituality/religion can only explain the unknown.

    or....

    2. We don't have the technology to properly implement the use of Science to answer the unknown? Thus, SOMEDAY the answers of the unexplainable will be discovered; however, most likely not in my life time.

    These two questions/thoughts fit in with agnosticism
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    Jul 08, 2009 1:36 AM GMT
    I wasn't really raised in any religious tradition. As far as I remember, I never really had a belief in God. I view religion as created by mankind and as such can represent the best and worst of human nature. I find religon at its best when the focus is on helping the needy and personal growth; at its worst when it is judgemental and hateful. For the past 2.5yrs I've been going to an Unitarian Universalist church. I like the focus on personal values without as much concern if your value foundation is based on Humanism, Christianity, Buddhism, Paganism, etc. Also, like the fact that UU is gay accepting and a strong supporter of gay rights.
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    Jul 08, 2009 1:45 AM GMT
    I was raised a Roman Catholic and was very devout. In fact, I considered the priesthood! After coming out, I became an athiest for a few years before following a subconscious yearning for Judaism. I converted to Judaism a few years ago and I practice. I keep kosher to a certain extent and keep my head covered. I am considering being a rabbi. Crazy ride life is eh?
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    Jul 08, 2009 1:52 AM GMT
    raised jewish, methodist, church of england and pentecostal

    i chose to attend a non-denominational church, but one that believes and teaches the bible
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    Jul 08, 2009 1:59 AM GMT
    typical catholic family upbringing.
    dad cheated on mom with dudes the entire time and mom drank herself silly as a result.

    this pretty much sums it up:

    "The fact that a believer is happier than a sceptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality." - George Bernard Shaw

    blink.

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    Jul 08, 2009 2:08 AM GMT
    lilTanker saidI believe I'm hungry

    But god wont give me food

    I have to go make it myself..


    Yet the christians will say that god helps those that help themselves. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 08, 2009 2:17 AM GMT
    Raised Orthodox Christian.

    Today Christian Existentialist.
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    Jul 08, 2009 2:23 AM GMT
    ^ I'm happy for you icon_wink.gif

    but just to point out, theists enjoy life too. We don't make religion the center of our universe, at least I don't. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 08, 2009 2:41 AM GMT
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    Yet the christians will say that god helps those that help themselves. icon_rolleyes.gif[/quote]

    Actually Ben Franklin wrote that in "Poor Richard's Almanac"
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    Jul 08, 2009 2:43 AM GMT
    BetterThanOne said
    lilTanker saidI believe I'm hungry

    But god wont give me food

    I have to go make it myself..


    Yet the christians will say that god helps those that help themselves. icon_rolleyes.gif

    and I'd say good for the Christians..
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    Jul 08, 2009 3:00 AM GMT
    I am a "pure" atheist, having been raised in a household where religion was not discussed at all. My kids are technically Jewish, by matrilineal descent, but atheism goes back a few generations on Mom's side.
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    Jul 08, 2009 3:38 AM GMT
    I am 55 and was raised and have practiced my Orthodox Christian Faith throughout my life. It has challanged me and helped me to be a better, more honest, less selfish and more loving person. I try to judge no one and see God in everyone. I believe that God draws people to Himself from all faiths and loves the least as well as the highest. Peace
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    Jul 08, 2009 3:42 AM GMT
    Brought up going to church three times a week. Attended a christian school K-12. I stopped going to church when I moved out of the parents house. Over the years my faith kinda dissolved, along with a whole bunch of other baggage. I don't give it any thought anymore.
  • calibro

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    Jul 08, 2009 3:52 AM GMT
    i worship at the temple of liltanker... and the guynextdoor on the weekends
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    Jul 08, 2009 3:57 AM GMT
    Brought myself up (religiously) as a wiccan, learning and practicing with friends and solitarily. It was my last year of high school I actually got saved and joined a local Baptist church. I love it and have been going for about 10 years, been in/out (sexuality) for about 14 years. I'm a pretty joyful person for all of it.
  • DrobUA

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    Jul 08, 2009 3:58 AM GMT
    Raised: catholic
    Currently: not subscribing to any labels

    I believe in the golden rule, in helping others, and doing what your heart tells you is right. I don't believe that people can understand everything that happens in life and I don't think you should try to.
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    Jul 08, 2009 4:14 AM GMT
    i grew up to just believe whatever you want to believe.

    growing up i would go with friends to various church functions, from all over the board.

    i can proudly say that i think it's all bullshit and that there is no higher power.

    the biology book i believe, i have always found religion total bs, but to each his own. if you choose to believe in a "higher power" so be it, just dont in any way try to force it on me, and dont try to get me to come along to drink the punch too.

    i see organized religion as just an accepted cult amongst today's society.

    and i dont think churches should have tax exemptions either.
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    Jul 08, 2009 4:16 AM GMT
    My Dad is an atheist. My mom is agnostic. My Dad was raised Catholic (Irish) and endured a lot of pain for it. My mom attended an English Lutheran church. I attended the Catholic and Protestant churches when my respective grandmothers came to town until one day when I asked my dad, "do I have to go to church with grandma?" "No" he said. THAT was easy, I thought.

    I was actually saved in a Baptist church at the persuasion of some friends when I was 10. The experience traumatized me as I felt they were trying to brainwash me and turn me against my dad. Now I go to the woods when I want to feel the need to be spiritual.
  • Delivis

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    Jul 08, 2009 4:21 AM GMT
    Atheist here. I have no use for faith.