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What the hell is wrong with these people

Maybe I shouldn't be so freakin' shocked
they gave us George Caligula Bush didn't they?

I dunno I just thought they'd have learned by now

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-07-07-palin-poll_N.htm

Isn´t that (1) because most people have left the republican party (2) there are no other visible options.

Palin ain´t going no-where: she can´t even manage to govern ALASKA for a whole term.

I feel sorry for her, but she´s in melt down. Tell us again why she resigned?

I know the hate is going to start my way, but I do have an opinion which i am not trying to force on any of you. I believe Sarah Palin is more "normal" america than most other politicians. She is not perfect, but she is not the idiot that the media has made her out to be either. I tend to vote right, but would not say that I would vote for her for president without knowing my other options. There are certainly bigger jackasses in the world that have gone for that job.

wadawg said I know the hate is going to start my way, but I do have an opinion which i am not trying to force on any of you. I believe Sarah Palin is more "normal" america than most other politicians.

I am genuinely curious about this. What makes her more 'normal' than other Americans? Do you not see how subjective that is? To me, for instance, a 'normal' person lives in or around a major metropolitan area (as 80% of us do), votes Democratic (as 65% of urban and suburban voters now do), and is at best a sporadic churchgoer (as 56% of urban/suburbanites are).

The Republican base is overwhelmingly rural and religious, which is why the national percentages don't match the urban/suburban numbers.

So what makes a person from a small and shrinking political party, who lives in a small town, goes to church far more often than people in larger places, and is markedly more conservative than metropolitan folk----what makes her 'normal'?

Aside from the stats you provided, which may or may not be on the money, when I said "normal" I was thinking more big picture than political picture. Palin is middle class, which i would say is a big chunk of our population. She is not a Washington insider, which most americans are not, she has a large family, with family problems and issues, which ALL families do. How many folks out there that run for national offices have seemingly perfect families. How many of us would want our families plastered all over the media?? She didn't go to an Ivy League school but rather a state college.

Again, I am not saying I would vote for her, I am just saying I believe more people have more in common with her than they do Bush, Gore, Obama, McCain, etc...

wadawg saidAgain, I am not saying I would vote for her, I am just saying I believe more people have more in common with her than they do Bush, Gore, Obama, McCain, etc...

What I am reacting to is the very common theme from Republicans that they represent the 'real' America and the rest of us somehow are inauthentic.

In fact, they represent a very small slice of the country, and even your saying that 'most people' have more in common with her---well, that is your anecdotal experience. But I don't think it's accurate. Forget the Dems and Repubs---the figures I saw today showed her 55-34% disapproval rating among independents, which is more reliable since less 'partisan' than the opinions of self-admitted party voters.

It seems that she doesn't resonate with anyone except the small and shrinking segment that still loves George Bush, who in many ways she resembles.

wadawg saidAside from the stats you provided, which may or may not be on the money, when I said "normal" I was thinking more big picture than political picture. Palin is middle class, which i would say is a big chunk of our population. She is not a Washington insider, which most americans are not, she has a large family, with family problems and issues, which ALL families do. How many folks out there that run for national offices have seemingly perfect families. How many of us would want our families plastered all over the media?? She didn't go to an Ivy League school but rather a state college.

Again, I am not saying I would vote for her, I am just saying I believe more people have more in common with her than they do Bush, Gore, Obama, McCain, etc...

I get that she is more"normal" than many politicians, but she really doesn't seem to be very bright, at least when it comes to politics. I really don't understand why she is such a popular political figure on the right? She would never have been given any credence on the left, (in my opinion).

Is she the best candidate the rep party can offer? The US is going dooooooooowwwnnn!!

dyersburg_dude said I get that she is more"normal" than many politicians, but she really doesn't seem to be very bright, at least when it comes to politics. I really don't understand why she is such a popular political figure on the right? She would never have been given any credence on the left, (in my opinion).

Voting for someone because he or she is 'one of us' isn't something the left gets excited by.

That's an interesting aspect of American politics. Why do you want your leaders to be like you? I can't lead a country, I don't have any of the skills. To be good at it one needs Gandhi like patience, phenomenal wisdom, and able to do a bizarre dance with one's ego (be both sensitive to empathize and thick skinned to handle the attention).

Bush was unable to let go of his ego. It was more important it seemed to him to appear right and decisive than to be right by getting multiple perspectives and questioning assumptions.

Palin in a way is "normal"; she is in meltdown as she is not a capable leader and cannot handle the temptation not to use her office for her own good, manage the inevitable silliness of media attention, and be consistent. I would probably be somewhat similar as most people I know.

It takes something extraordinary to be a remarkable statesperson. Palin doesn't have it. And I can't say for sure I would do much better.

wadawg saidAside from the stats you provided, which may or may not be on the money, when I said "normal" I was thinking more big picture than political picture. Palin is middle class, which i would say is a big chunk of our population. She is not a Washington insider, which most americans are not, she has a large family, with family problems and issues, which ALL families do. How many folks out there that run for national offices have seemingly perfect families. How many of us would want our families plastered all over the media?? She didn't go to an Ivy League school but rather a state college.

Again, I am not saying I would vote for her, I am just saying I believe more people have more in common with her than they do Bush, Gore, Obama, McCain, etc...

LOL, some people are truly stupid.

Ok, Palin may not be a "Washington Insider" and she is clearly middle class, but what is the most glaring of them all is that she is obviously a very stupid woman. Am I the only one who finds her completely incoherent?

QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREShe didn't go to an Ivy League school but rather a state college.

Correction: she went to four different state colleges and graduated 6-7 years later with a degree in....journalism. Good Ol' Americana, right? Such a low-class person shouldn't even let the thought of running for presidency cross her mind.

Why are some-Americans so obsessed with politicians being the mirror image of themselves i.e. uneducated and small minded? Most Americans have more things in common with their mechanics than they do with their physicians and surgeons, but would you authorize and entrust your mechanic to perform open heart surgery on you?

I sure as hell do not want the average American as my president.

That comes as no suprise. Look at what they voted for the last time.

Never underestimate the abject stupidity of the average Republican.

Where I live a local radio station that regularly runs Rush Limbaugh had a transmitter failure. The station was off the air for five days and the calls came in nonstop from conservative morons who blamed the Obama administration.

They all yelled "conspiracy!".

I think that should exclude them from ever being able to vote.

But we Just went thru Hell with the first incarnation of this SAME type

The complete incompetency
The lack of curiosity of the world
The megalomania

The same way That Bush was shown to be unfit to be President .... remember the interviews?
This one is even worse

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Oh she's got my vote. What a surprise!

That she is representative of the lowest common denominator is hard to refute.

I disagree that she is comparable to George W. Bush. While he was packaged as an ordinary joe with whom people would want to share a beer he was actually a blue-blood, Yale educated, millionaire businessman, former Governor (who completed his terms), and son of a Vice President, President, Senator, Head of the CIA, and Ambassador to China.

The only saving grace with Sarah Palin is that she seems to be very difficult to control. Those famous Washington insiders don't care for unpredictable, especially not after McCain/Palin.

It seems inevitable that she will be dumb enough to try and that she will solidify the fringe. Lets hope it ends there.

Asking if you would vote for Palin is different than making a choice among several options. During an actual primary, Republicans are going to be have a few people to chose from and I doubt they will chose Palin in three years.

I would hope common sense would prevail and the Palin Govenor would sink to the bottom of the barrel (so to speak) as a choice.

wadawg saidAside from the stats you provided, which may or may not be on the money, when I said "normal" I was thinking more big picture than political picture. Palin is middle class, which i would say is a big chunk of our population. She is not a Washington insider, which most americans are not, she has a large family, with family problems and issues, which ALL families do. How many folks out there that run for national offices have seemingly perfect families. How many of us would want our families plastered all over the media?? She didn't go to an Ivy League school but rather a state college.

Again, I am not saying I would vote for her, I am just saying I believe more people have more in common with her than they do Bush, Gore, Obama, McCain, etc...

oh ya right, let's celebrate mediocrity, cause it makes us feel less unaccomplished. aim higher maybe?

That a large segment of our population is willing to vote for someone who has shown herself to be incompetent of the job she has been paid to do again and again is frightening
Because if it's not her
It's going to be someone possibly even worse
We never seem to learn from our mistakes do we?

and 36.3 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-07-07-palin-poll_N.htm

Complain to USA Today

I'd love to see her run again, because it would be an automatic Bible thumper vote veto. Then maybe someone of quality would hit the Independent switch and stand a chance. The two party system isn't satisfying me at this point.

However, if you want to imagine something truly scary, rent or watch V for Vendetta. Talk about a scary political party movie. It's AMAZING! As long as our Republican party doesn't magically rebuild itself into that...

It's really frightening so many people would be ok with her running the country.
I wouldn't freak just yet though.
I still remember how she couldn't name one newspaper she read. Scary.

MunchingZombie saidAsking if you would vote for Palin is different than making a choice among several options. During an actual primary, Republicans are going to be have a few people to chose from and I doubt they will chose Palin in three years.

Yeah exactly.

I sure as hell do not want the average American as my president.

Why not?

Look at the government right now, many of the people running it have not come from average American backgrounds and look at what they've done or how they think about things.