Video of tornado derailing train

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    Jul 08, 2009 5:03 PM GMT
    Quite a bit of controversy about this. A train drove into a tornado in Illinois. It's a bit of time ago....2008. But, what's interesting about this is the "black box" video shot from the train locomotive looking towards the back of the train.

    What you'll see are several train cars blown off the tracks (you'll only see the first car but there were four or five others behind it that were also derailed). Then, the following tank car (which contained hazardous materials) comes barreling into the engine and several cars derail. I am sure Union Pacific is not happy about this video being publically available.

    The issue is that there was a tornado warning out for the area, and whether the train crews had been apprised of that. The other issue is whether the engineers saw the tornado and didn't try to stop. Union Pacific contracts with a private consulting firm (in Wichita) to keep its train and truck crews apprised about weather warnings that could effect operations. So the other issue is whether that firm actually did its job.

    You won't really see a condesnation funnel in the video because it is too low quailty. But its verified that the tornado (an EF2) cross the tracks at right angles and you can see tremendous winds (watch the trees).

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    Jul 08, 2009 6:04 PM GMT
    Awesome video. Oh, gosh, I love the sick feeling of seeing that tank car careening toward the engine.
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    Jul 08, 2009 6:11 PM GMT
    That's CRAZY!!!!!!
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    Jul 08, 2009 7:12 PM GMT
    More on that tornado video.

    Here's a picture of the tornado track across the tracks. FYI, though, several of the cars that were on the tracks, including the hazmat carrying car, had already been removed. You can see others laying on their sides to the upper part of the pictures.

    To orient you, northeast is towards the upper right part of the picture.

    By the way, I know the video was impressive, but it doesn't take much wind to push over a train car (a locomotive is another issue...that did not happen in this case). The NWS estimated 110 mph winds across the tracks. Those are strong....but you'd think a many ton train car would not be toppled by that.
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  • coolarmydude

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    Jul 08, 2009 9:13 PM GMT
    Well I'll be damned!!! Holy Shizz! That is one of the most impressive youtube videos I ever did see. Thnx!


    (The fact that I love trains and weather storms might be a reason in my awe for this video).
  • GQjock

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    Jul 08, 2009 9:19 PM GMT
    Kool .... I love crap like that
    Mother nature is awesome
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    Jul 08, 2009 9:48 PM GMT
    scratchart saidand idea why would a camera be placed there and filming?


    It's the equivalent of a black box for trains

    I'll see how much interest there is on RJ (I don't want to keep on resurrecting a thread for which there is limited interest) on this. But, there is more to the story on what was going on.

    But, at a visceral level, the notion of something knocking over a huge train car like it was built of balsa wood (did you see how slowly and gently it was toppled), was stunning. Yes, the tank car coming straight at the camera was amazing too.

    John
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    Jul 08, 2009 10:36 PM GMT
    sounded like a freight train coming right at us icon_eek.gif
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    Jul 08, 2009 10:42 PM GMT
    B71115 saidsounded like a freight train coming right at us
    That had to be confusing.
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    Jul 08, 2009 11:06 PM GMT
    Simply Incredible.

    What a mess to have to clean up and to think how much of the product inside the train or even train itself was destroyed...what a waste.

    This reminds me of that video (late 90's i believe) where the people were driving their car down the highway and a major tornado came into view. So with little time they all get our of their vehicles and hide under an overpass as best they could and kept the camera rolling. I'm trying to find it on youtube. It's quite incredible to see them inside of it and the grass just being whipped around. Makes me realize how small and weak we are when it comes to nature.

    Edit: I'm not sure if this is the one because I don't remember it being this way but this is close to it- seems less dangerous in this video.




    This one just gives me chills:



    Great View of the F5 that hit Elie, Manitoba, Canada back in summer 2007.

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    Jul 08, 2009 11:23 PM GMT
    wow, that tank car bouncing up the track w/ all that momentum behind it.
    Wicked.
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    Jul 08, 2009 11:24 PM GMT
    Wow, that's insane!
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    Jul 09, 2009 1:52 AM GMT
    IvesCardin08 saidSimply Incredible.


    This reminds me of that video (late 90's i believe) where the people were driving their car down the highway and a major tornado came into view. So with little time they all get our of their vehicles and hide under an overpass as best they could and kept the camera rolling. I'm trying to find it on youtube. It's quite incredible to see them inside of it and the grass just being whipped around. Makes me realize how small and weak we are when it comes to nature.


    That would be the Andover, KS tornado in 1991. Unfortunately, the two reporters who shot this actually were putting themselves at risk. And because of what they did, many people thought that the best place to be in a direct hit of a tornado is under a freeway underpass....which is NOT the best place to be. If not the worst place to be, it is almost the worst.

    You'll note that the tornado was moving parallel and at a slight angle to the reporters' car. They could have stopped, turned around on the shoulder and driven back to escape it.

    Turns out common sense is often the best rule.....they were driving to intersect it, and they were driving to get "extreme video." (Not that it wasn't incredible video...it was).

    John
  • DCEric

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    Jul 09, 2009 2:32 AM GMT
    I enjoyed that.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jul 09, 2009 2:36 AM GMT
    Absolutely Amazing!!! I like any tornado related data, pictures, video.
    I thought this was interesting to say the least.
  • somedaytoo

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    Jul 09, 2009 2:53 AM GMT
    Cool stuff. I'm a storm chaser and know some of the guys in these videos. Weather can be amazing.
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    Jul 09, 2009 4:15 PM GMT
    As an aside, there was a bit of a conflict between the American Red Cross and the National Weather Service regarding what to do when confronted by a tornado when you are outdoors.

    The conflict has been resolved.

    The Red Cross and Weather Service believe that if you are caught outdoors, you should seek shelter in a basement, shelter or sturdy building. If you cannot quickly walk to a shelter:

    Immediately get into a vehicle, buckle your seat belt and try to drive to the closest sturdy shelter.

    If flying debris occurs while you are driving, pull over and park. Now you have the following options as a last resort:

    Stay in the car with the seat belt on. Put your head down below the windows, covering with your hands and a blanket if possible.

    If you can safely get noticeably lower than the level of the roadway, exit your car and lie in that area, covering your head with your hands.

    Your choice should be driven by your specific circumstances
    .