How bad is alcohol while training?

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    Nov 24, 2007 4:55 PM GMT
    After my break up, I've hit the sauce pretty heavy. I'm a bourbon drinker and tend to have a few a day. The weekends, I get loaded.

    How bad is it for my routine?
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    Nov 24, 2007 8:06 PM GMT
    It's bad for you period. Depends on how many a few is...when i was drinking a few was 6 or 7 beers (still considered binge drinking) for some it might be 10 for others it might be 2. Anything above 2 drinks in a day is bad for you, over 4 is considered binging. I know that's not the answer you probably want.

    I'm no gym expert, but in terms of working out alcohol inhibits muscle growth, slows your metabolism, and packs empty calories upon empty calories.
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    Nov 24, 2007 11:44 PM GMT
    Runninchltalcohol inhibits muscle growth, slows your metabolism, and packs empty calories upon empty calories


    That pretty much nails it. I think the only thing missed is increased appetite as well. In short it is really bad for training. I blame my beer drinking for my lack of six-pack abs. Stupid beer.

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    Nov 24, 2007 11:55 PM GMT
    I'm not an expert either but you need to find a substitute for the drinking fast like maybe more workouts! Alcohol is empty calories and hard on your body. Stop the drinking
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    Nov 25, 2007 12:57 AM GMT
    Alcohol reduces your endurance and strength.
    Interferes with muscle growth.
    Strains your immune system and diminishes your abilty to metabolize fat.
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    Nov 25, 2007 1:41 AM GMT
    Let's see.... a gay, heart-broken lush. Not the first one nor the last. I've got/had the tattoo, as well. In the meantime, read "Dry" by Augusten Burroughs. Even if you don't quit/slow down, this will make you forget about the ex for a while anywayicon_biggrin.gif
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    Nov 25, 2007 1:45 AM GMT
    not to mention, it isn't helping you cope healthily. I wish you all the best man. I know, it's rough in these times.
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    Nov 25, 2007 2:11 AM GMT
    Super bad, extremely bad, one of the worst things you can do to yourself. Alcohol is loaded with hollow calories. Not to mention it stops all hgh production.

    Alcohol is a carbohydrate, but doesn't convert to glucose like most carbs do, but is converted into a fatty acid and is consequently more likely to store as fat. So if you drink alcohol and exercise, it puts fat metabolism on "hold".
    Alcoholic drinks also contain calories from other sources, which add to overall caloric intake. Certain cocktails, for example, contain fats. Wine and beer both have high carbohydrate content. Although the affects these various calorie types have on the body are different - carbohydrates release insulin, which can hasten fat storage, while fats will be stored directly in the fat cells - the overall result is added body fat.

    Great workouts
    Joe
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    Nov 25, 2007 3:23 AM GMT
    All the above being mentioned, I read a study the other day that says that the fastest way to "carb up" post workout is alcohol.

    For whatever it's worth.

    Getting tanked cooks a lot of things, and can make you fat as heck. Probably best to do low to moderate dosing on alcohol.

    Like an aspirin, or so many things, a little can actually be good for you. To much is not good.
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    Nov 25, 2007 3:28 AM GMT
    I run 50 miles a week and weight train for an hour to an hour and a half per MWF. Yet, I have been having trouble getting to the last part of my goal, which is having a lower body fat, and having abs that show muscle.

    My friend Tim, already "there" with 6% body fat, is training me now. He challenged me to go without alcohol from November 3 to Thanksgiving, and then just have it (two to three drinks) only on occasions during the holidays (meaning, when I am socializing for dinner with friends).

    I lost three pounds...not a lot, but remember I am working out a lot too, so that means I have been muscle building, and muscle is volume for volume heavier than fat.

    Hence, it has worked.

    Think of it this way. Three drinks a day (or three beers or three glasses of wine) is around 550 calories per day, 3600 calories per week. That's about a pound and a quarter of fat. Just cut those out, or cut them out except for weekends, and you lose 4 pounds per month, 48 pounds in a year. Yes...that's true. 48 pounds in a year, if you change nothing else.

    John
  • UStriathlete

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    Nov 25, 2007 4:06 PM GMT
    oMg...your drinking pattern and reason for drinking is called alcoholism. Dude go to AA please, NOW!!! TODAY!!!!!

    your drinking pattern is bad for just general health, let alone training.

    get some help! and you RJ peeps...help him get some help for F sakes!

    FYI.....Alcoholism is having one or more drinks everyday. 1-3 drinks a week is considered normal/healthy. (Alcohol anonymous)
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    Nov 25, 2007 5:12 PM GMT
    "FYI.....Alcoholism is having one or more drinks everyday. 1-3 drinks a week is considered normal/healthy. (Alcohol anonymous)"

    That may very well be AA's definition, but I doubt anyone in the medical profession would hold to such a ridiculously strict definition.
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    Nov 25, 2007 5:29 PM GMT
    How bad is it for training? You know the answer--terrible..it sucks..all the things that my brothers have said above me. How bad is it for getting through a tough time...have a drink on me.
  • UStriathlete

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    Nov 25, 2007 6:38 PM GMT
    paradox...
    it's addictive behavior of substance abuse. alcohol is a drug btw.

    IMO...so many are in denial. they will find any excuse to validate their behavior. just like rokstar. no kidding alcohol is bad for any training.

    very sad and shouldn't be taken lightly.
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    Nov 25, 2007 7:31 PM GMT
    My parents would enjoy two light Scotch and sodas every evening, before dinner. It was not an addictive, dysfunctional behavior for them, and there were no adverse health consequences from it. After mom died, dad stopped drinking, and there was no withdrawal or recovery because he's not an alcoholic. 1-2 drinks per day is considered moderate alcohol consumption. AA is pathologizing the non-pathological with their definition.

    The 12-14 shots of Jack Daniels I used to drink every night of the week? Now, THAT is alcoholism.
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    Nov 25, 2007 8:06 PM GMT
    Paradox, how the hell could you afford to do thaticon_confused.gif (assuming all your shots were at the bar)? If they were at home,....oh boy.
  • GQjock

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    Nov 26, 2007 11:18 AM GMT
    Maxx is absolutely right
    you the double whammy when you drink alcohol
    alcohol has - well most do
    alot of calories in itself
    but at the sametime it affects both carbohydrate and fat metabolism in the liver
    slowing it down and allowing them to be stored as excess calories and then as fat
    so your drinking as actually sabotaging your exercise efforts
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    Nov 26, 2007 2:59 PM GMT
    I know this is an older crowd so I might get slammed on this one, but maybe switch to something less damaging to your body. Perhaps smoke up a little instead? No hangover, more fun, less fat. Keep eyedrops and beverages around and don't overdo it and become a pothead or a philosopher or artist or something. And don't venture beyond the herb, most other things seem to mess you up.
  • Laurence

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    Nov 26, 2007 3:28 PM GMT
    Alcohol while training isn't good, balancing a bottle of beer on a workout bench is precarious, drinking vodka in ya water bottle is a bit easier...add some to your protein shake for a bit of a kick.

    Only joking.

    Rok, you're priority is your mental health and grieving for your ended relationship is natural, and you shouldn't beat yourself up for needing a crutch at this time.

    When you feel ready though, you should gradually drink less and less, getting down to having a few drinks socially.

    Of course alcohol is dead calories and not helpful to fitness. But it's much better to exercise than not, at the stage of your life is in, and to be quite honest, Who wants a life where you can't let your hair down now and again?

    Lozx
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    Nov 26, 2007 6:19 PM GMT
    "Perhaps smoke up a little instead? No hangover, more fun, less fat."

    You're right about no hangover, but for me, the paranoia and munchies means no fun and more fat.
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    Nov 27, 2007 5:54 PM GMT
    Rokstar. Switch to vodka. Calories in a shot of bourbon 101. Calories in a shot of vodka 65.

    Source: www.calorieking.com

    Have a Vodka & Club Soda. You'll get used to the taste, but you'll never like it as much as bourbon. (I also am a sucker for good bourbon.) It'll curb your overall drinking, and also your total calories taken in by the drinking.

    If you think you're hitting the sauce pretty heavy you probably are. A few a day + loaded on the weekends, sounds like a lot, its bound to affect something, gym routine or not.

    Nothing is more embarassing than whiskey dick... just sayin...

  • joggerva

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    Nov 27, 2007 6:14 PM GMT
    rewlor,

    Neat website, but you need to be careful with the serving size.
    1.5 oz of 80 proof bourbon = 101 calories
    1.5 oz of 80 proof vodka = 96 calories (you were looking at 1 oz)
    It's a toss up.

    I think the other replies pretty much summed it up. Excessive alcohol consumption = very bad for training.

    Also, therapy is highly recommended. For anyone really, but especially if you are self medicating with alcohol to this extent.

    Peace!
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    Nov 27, 2007 8:15 PM GMT
    Lame. My gross drinks have done nothing! Bourbon wins!
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    Nov 28, 2007 11:36 PM GMT
    Thanks alot guys.

    I thought I'd get that answer...

    I've talked to a Dr. about the break up and he's been some help.

    He also is concerned about my drinking...as is my family.
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    Nov 29, 2007 12:08 AM GMT
    Yeah...spark one up.

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    That way you're likely to sip two rather than slam ten.

    Don't indulge to unsustainable levels though, as others have described above.