Time Mag's take on why Southern folks are such fat asses.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 10, 2009 4:51 AM GMT
    http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1909406,00.html?cnn=yes
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 11, 2009 1:17 AM GMT
    Good article. And here's another component: Religion. The fattest states are also among the most fundamentalist states. And fundamentalists / evangelicals often tend to disrespect and abuse their bodies. Why?

    They view life on Earth as temporary and unimportant. . .

    They're taught that it's wrong to take pride in their appearance. . .

    They claim they can't wait to discard the physical "shell" that surrounds them when God zaps them into heaven. . .

    So, basically, they tend to turn into slobs.

    To look at it another way, it's just another example of how fundamentalists take the easy way out.

    It's easy to accept the crap that religion trowels out. Way easier than thinking, reading and questioning.

    It's also easy to accept the crap that McDonald's trowels out. Way easier than running, going to the gym and watching your diet.

    Religion and laziness: The two walk together. (That is, assuming you can get them to walk.)





  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 11, 2009 1:37 AM GMT
    I totally agree with the article and, for the most part, I agree with Littledude. For some reason, gluttony is the only acceptable sin in the Bible Belt. I would assume because it's not "as bad" as sins such as sexual sins. If there's no danger of having sex, why not get fat? Also, humans need pleasure and a lot of religious people deny themselves a lot of other pleasure so put it all into the pleasure of eating. After all, gluttony isn't as bad as the other sins such as sex outside of marriage. Of course, that doesn't explain why places like Utah and the Middle East have low obesity rates. That's why, as the article says, there are many factors.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 11, 2009 1:46 AM GMT
    muscles4muscles said I, as the article says, there are many factors.

    The other factors include the Southern love of heavy food. Ever watch Paula Dean? Butter, gravy, breaded this and that, deep-fried everything. Tex-mex adds even more gravity. And then there's the ultimate calorie blockbuster, the chicken-fried steak with cream gravy, usually served in portions so large they require a platter instead of a plate.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 11, 2009 2:35 AM GMT
    LittleDudeWithMuscles saidGood article. And here's another component: Religion. The fattest states are also among the most fundamentalist states. And fundamentalists / evangelicals often tend to disrespect and abuse their bodies. Why?


    Obesity is a recent epidemic, beginning in the 1970's. Religion, however, is an epidemic as old as humanity.
  • Sparkycat

    Posts: 1064

    Jul 11, 2009 2:37 AM GMT
    Why are you so hateful toward people who are overweight? I don't think you read the article. Or, somehow you missed the valid reasons why people in the south have a greater obesity rate - poverty, lack of access to healthy food, lack of education about good nutrition, heat and humidity that make exercise outside difficult and possibly dangerous. Of course, they could join a gym. Except, poor people probably can't afford a gym membership.

    I grew up in West Virginia and lived there for 30 years. When I travel back there to visit family I can see people don't look as healthy there as they do here in the midwest. People there look run down, tired, heavy. But, the state is largely rural and mountain terrain, so many people don't have access to fitness facilities or stores with a good selection of food. People are poor so they have to buy cheap food. Go to the store and see what food is cheap. It's the junk with the least nutritional value. But, what choice do they have? They can't let their families starve. Good paying jobs are scarce in the rural areas. People do what they can to get by. But, facing poverty every day with little opportunity for improving their lives leads to feeling hopeless, and hopeless people tend to not have the motivation to exercise.

    You've read an article about it. I've lived it. I don't know about other states, but people in West Virginia are good, decent people. Being poor doesn't make them bad people. Lack of education doesn't make them bad people. Obesity doesn't make them bad people.

    I don't know what the answer is, but I do know that judging, diminishing, and dismissing people with health problems as "fat asses" is hateful, unfair, and immature. Sorry, reality is not as black and white as you think it is.


    chuckystud saidhttp://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1909406,00.html?cnn=yes
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 11, 2009 2:50 AM GMT
    Carbs, like rice, pasta, are cheap, cheap,cheap. The poor argument washes out.

    Protein is more expensive, but, few Americans lack it.

    It's about ignorance, to a degree, yes, but, in 2009, there's no excuse for someone on food stamps blowing it on junk food.

    Folks fail to be responsible to themselves and to the others.

    You can plead ignorance, and poor, to a degree, but, in 2009, it only goes so far.

    You're a fat ass because of repeated bad behavior over a long period of time.

    You're a fat ass because you continue to make bad choices.

    Nothing less, and nothing more.

    Stop blaming society and put the blame where it lies: your ten digits.

    You DO NOT have to be a fat ass. Your fate is in YOUR hands.

    E.g. grits are 0 fat and 88 CENTS are Wal-Mart. I can buy top notch meat at Albertson's on sale for 99 CENTS per pound.

    Cry me a river while you gobble down those potato chips, but, in the end, you need to grow up.

    Weight control can be accomplished easily with simple walking and daily diet monitoring.

    Your statement is basically malarkey.
  • Sparkycat

    Posts: 1064

    Jul 11, 2009 3:55 AM GMT
    You have your head stuck so far up your ass there's no point in replying to your comments.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 11, 2009 4:05 AM GMT
    LOL.

    That's the best you can do?

    Grits really are 88 cents per container.
    Hamburger at Albertson's on sale really is 99 cents per pound.
    Anyone, even the very poorest of us, that is ambulatory is able to walk for 30 minutes per day, or take the stairs, etc.

    You don't get fat by eating one bad meal a day, unless it's your only one, or even a few pieces of chocolate cake every now and then. You get to be a fat ass by repeated bad behaviors. You get to be a fat ass by design. You get healthy by design.

    It's all about choices.

    If lashing out is the best that you can due, that's a statement to your own ignorance. Everything I've suggested is TRUE.

    With some things, like alcohol, sometime tobacco, but, certainly wife-beating and behaviors like fighting and killing folks we'd intervene but, with folks like yourself, others are afraid to intervene, and to save lives.

    Over 2 MILLION DIE...., needlessly, every year do to the obesity pandemic. Another 6 million fat asses burden the health care system and their employers, again, needlessly, because the issue doesn't get properly addresses.

    Being a fat ass is nearly 100% avoidable, but, so long as attitudes like yours are there, we'll continue to fail in wellness promotion, and instead, we'll spend BILLIONS on disease treatment.

    Being healthy FEELS good. Being healthy is a choice, even for the poorest among us.

    If I've angered you to the point the best you can do is to lash out, good. Now, maybe you'll work to spread the word that folks are dieing, by the millions needlessly over something that can be easily controlled.

    Now, harness your lashing out in a positive direction. Walk, eat right, maybe even work out.

    Now, make a plan for success, execute it, get healthy, and come back and tell me how much better you feel, instead of being such a cry baby.

    It makes my day that you're worked up. Now, take action and get healthy.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 11, 2009 4:10 AM GMT
    I kind of have to agree with Chucky on this one. There are ways to eat healthy for cheap. It's possible to get tons of healthy food for under a dollar: Cans of veggies and canned black beans for example. You can also get bulk frozen skinless chicken breasts for decent prices. May not be the most tasty, but it is very possible.

    *disclaimer* I didn't read the article, merely touching on the lack of money as an excuse topic.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 11, 2009 4:15 AM GMT
    Ejay311 saidI kind of have to agree with Chucky on this one. There are ways to eat healthy for cheap. It's possible to get tons of healthy food for under a dollar: Cans of veggies and canned black beans for example. You can also get bulk frozen skinless chicken breasts for decent prices. May not be the most tasty, but it is very possible.

    *disclaimer* I didn't read the article, merely touching on the lack of money as an excuse topic.

    But being poor and living a life of deprivation can really be a downer, such that a person reaches for some comfort food because the brain craves a relief from the stress of such a life.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 11, 2009 4:19 AM GMT
    Carbs are cheap, cheap, cheap.

    Protein is pricey, but you can get it on the cheap, too.

    Chicken breast is $6.48 at Wally Word, for 5.5 pounds.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 11, 2009 5:59 AM GMT
    rice and beans are cheaper than wonder-why-they-call-it-bread, and they have complimentary amino acid profile : great for people who cannot afford organic boneless skinless free range chicken breast but still need protein
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 11, 2009 1:43 PM GMT
    tied to the cost thing is cooking knowledge. I think a large proportion of the issue is tied to people´s ability to cook: if you have minimal skills you go for the easy, premade, packages.

    For example, the other week I got a pizza, which is the first time I have done that in 3 years here. It cost me $8.000 (pesos) lasted two meals and was not very good.

    For that money I could have bought 1.5 kgs of stewing beef, 1kg of tomatoes, a kg of potatoes, 2 green peppers, an onion and some fresh cilantro AND a bottle of red wine, which would have made a beef stew which would have fed me 3 or 4 meals of much higher quality food. But my brother couldn´t do that, as he can´t cook.