See what happens when you try to lose weight naturally?!

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    Jul 10, 2009 11:58 PM GMT
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    Jul 11, 2009 3:52 AM GMT
    Yes. Here is what happened when I lost weight naturally. I see it every day and am pretty happy with what I see.
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    27lbs. gone and have stayed that way for two years now.
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    Jul 11, 2009 4:10 AM GMT
    Good to know I'm not the only person here who thinks OnTheWayToMe is just trying to justify his laziness.
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    Jul 11, 2009 4:15 AM GMT
    I consistently work to keep my weight at 210 to 230.

    While I CAN, lower my set point, I usually don't. I like eating, feeling strong, and having good endurance.

    OnTheWayToMe just likes publishing all the reasoning for his years of failure in weight control instead of being trainable.

    Oh, well.

    He's consistently comes up with a long list of reasons for justifying his ongoing failure, even to the most supportive of folks. Most have abandoned him at this point.

    I trust he'll do whatever that makes him happy.

    Nonetheless, we wish him no ill will. He's just noise these days.
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    Jul 11, 2009 4:27 AM GMT
    MonkeyPuck saidYes. Here is what happened when I lost weight naturally. I see it every day and am pretty happy with what I see.
    http://homepage.mac.com/cherobinson/pic1.jpg

    27lbs. gone and have stayed that way for two years now.

    Wow, nice progress pics! icon_cool.gif
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    MonkeyPuck saidYes. Here is what happened when I lost weight naturally. I see it every day and am pretty happy with what I see.
    pic1.jpg

    27lbs. gone and have stayed that way for two years now.


    thats awesome good work.

    I am surprised by the OP, if you seek reasons to justify why you cant do something, of course you wont be able to do it. Self-fulfilling prophecy anyone?

    Eat less, sweat more, control what enters your body and increase your activity.
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    Jul 11, 2009 4:48 AM GMT
    At this point I'm feel like saying "Please get some sort of gastric bypass/lapband/roux-en-y/whatever surgery!" That way you'll stop posting the same stuff on here over and over again only to get responses contrary to what you want to believe. Hopefully it works, you lose weight and are able, through dietary modification and exercise, to keep the weight off. If, for whatever reason it does not work, you will only prove numerous posters on here right. Either way the argument comes to end.

    HOWEVER, I still think that surgery is the wrong path. After getting the surgery you will have to make the same lifestyle changes that if you were to make now would have similar effects on your weight. Post-op life is NOT pleasant and I, personally, would avoid it at all costs. But, the choice is yours. I haven't been in your shoes and don't know what you are going through and therefore cannot make a decision for you. You have all the information at your fingertips, and it is time you make the decision.
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    Jul 11, 2009 5:11 AM GMT
    A friend of a friend had the gastric bypass thing and lost tremendous weight because of the obvious effect it had on eating. When it came off she hadn't made any lifestyle changes to diet or exercise and BLOOP she was back to where she was right away.
    Maybe move somewhere there's plenty of activities to do nearby that promote a healthy lifestyle.
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    Jul 11, 2009 5:21 AM GMT
    MonkeyPuck saidYes. Here is what happened when I lost weight naturally. I see it every day and am pretty happy with what I see.
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    27lbs. gone and have stayed that way for two years now.


    27 lbs. is your example?
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    Jul 11, 2009 5:29 AM GMT
    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/31845266/ns/today_relationships/?gt1=43001


    After seeing this story on the tele today and reading the article, I can honestly say that I have no sympathy for your plight anymore. While I do not in any way condone the likes of Chuckystud and others who feel the need to endlessly call out the name fatass at every possible opportunity, you have to get off this rollercoaster of excuses (i.e. threads to justify you being the size you are) and do one of two things: Start a plan and lose the weight or take a good long look in the mirror and be satisfied with who you are and how you look. It makes absolutely no sense to continually barage yourself and others with the constant complaining and excuse finding to justify it. Aside from being non productive, it is just plain trifling. If you really want to get into a healthier place, take a page from the guy in the article, stop typing and start working. Otherwise, stop wasting thread space with these tiresome excuse ridden threads.
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    Jul 11, 2009 5:35 AM GMT
    ErikTaurean saidhttp://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/31845266/ns/today_relationships/?gt1=43001


    After seeing this story on the tele today and reading the article, I can honestly say that I have no sympathy for your plight anymore. While I do not in any way condone the likes of Chuckystud and others who feel the need to endlessly call out the name fatass at every possible opportunity, you have to get off this rollercoaster of excuses (i.e. threads to justify you being the size you are) and do one of two things: Start a plan and lose the weight or take a good long look in the mirror and be satisfied with who you are and how you look. It makes absolutely no sense to continually barage yourself and others with the constant complaining and excuse finding to justify it. Aside from being non productive, it is just plain trifling. If you really want to get into a healthier place, take a page from the guy in the article, stop typing and start working. Otherwise, stop wasting thread space with these tiresome excuse ridden threads.


    You wouldn't happen to have an example of the threads where I justify my size?
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    Jul 11, 2009 5:53 AM GMT
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    Jul 11, 2009 6:02 AM GMT
    OnTheWayToMe said-You wouldn't happen to have an example of the threads where I justify my size?

    From your post in your thread about lapband surgery.

    "Can I dedicate myself the proper way to the gym? ABSOLUTELY!!!! But losing and gaining the same sixty pounds over and over is unbearable. I don't want to keep setting myself up for the heartache of failure anymore."

    Anytime you post thread after thread after thread about your situation or something akin to it, your are justifying doing any and everything EXCEPT doing something about it. I stuggle with smoking. I know it's a bad habit. I know my insurance premiums would go down if I quit smoking and I know I will add years to my life if I quit. But there is a disconnect somewhere. I quit smoking for the umpteenth time at the beginning of the year. Kept it up for about 6 months until I fell off the wagon by not dealing with and handling a couple of stressful situations in a way that would not take me back to cigarettes. It is hard, sure, but it can be done because I have done it before. But you don't see me crying about it in multiple threads, especially threads where the best advise was given to give choices to help. I am not going to say anything else about your situation as I have nothing else positive to offer and beating you up about it has never done any good. So reply if you must, but I am done. Good luck. I hope you choose to at least be happy.
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    Jul 11, 2009 11:22 AM GMT
    I don't understand the reason for posting this thread

    are we supposed to assume that because this guy gained a lot of weight back that losing weight naturally doesn't work?

    Going on the Biggest Loser and losing weight I wouldn't qualify as "losing weight naturally"
    They might not use drugs or surgery
    but that's a crash course of exercise and diet that makes the contestants lose their weight but then when they get back home
    what are they supposed to do?

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    Jul 11, 2009 11:55 AM GMT
    His argument seems to be that he can't prevent himself from regaining weight.
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    Jul 11, 2009 12:19 PM GMT
    Monkey Puck: impressive. Nice. icon_wink.gif


    OnTheWay probably needs counseling to help him break the cycle. Surgery would be a bad idea as it´s just going to delay and complicate the process of dealing with why he won´t/can´t commit to a lifestyle which produces sustainable weight loss and addressing the way he uses food.
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    Jul 11, 2009 12:42 PM GMT
    Better to just stay home and sit on you ass, you can always have them liposuction 60lbs off your thighs biweekly......just the way nature intended
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    Jul 11, 2009 1:05 PM GMT
    On The Way: I offer this only in a constructive and positive way.

    Would you consider counseling?

    You may not realize it, but its extremely obvious that your outlook and behaviors are self-defeating and self-destructive.

    You also seem to think there's a quick fix for your weight problem. There's not. Like just about everything that's worthwhile. . . it takes a fair amount of time to accomplish a goal.

    The thing is, the journey to the goal offers instant rewards. And that in itself is motivating. Wouldn't you feel great if you dropped, say, six or eight or ten pounds after a month?

    Maybe that's not as dramatic as dangerous surgery with all the side effects. . . but it would certainly encourage you and give you a different attitude about things.

    That said, I think it's imperative that you add counseling to a weight loss program. Would you at least try to see a counselor?
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    Jul 11, 2009 1:24 PM GMT
    OnTheWayToMe said

    27 lbs. is your example?


    Yes. Sorry you feel the need to dismiss other people's accomplishments.

    If you don't think losing and keeping off 27 lbs is really that big of a deal then you are set. Lose 27 lbs. Then rinse and repeat. It doesn't matter if you want to lose and keep off 27, 50, 100 the fundamentals are the same.

    Your other option is to keep posting threads on here. If that floats your boat then by all means stay as you are and enjoy your shorten life span by spewing out that half-assed victim rhetoric like some kind of hopeless housewife just waiting to die.

    I didn't criticize you in my post. You asked a question about what happens when you lose weight naturally. I did exactly that and I answered. What happened? I look and feel much better than when I started. My cholesterol is low, body fat is low, resting heart rate are all low and walking up a flight of stairs is no biggy. That is what happened when I lost weight naturally. I didn't end up on the San Diego news though. Maybe you are right, I didn't all for nothing.
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    Jul 11, 2009 1:29 PM GMT
    Perhaps there is more to it than just "trying to lose weight naturally" .

    The video clip is an example that the journalist searched far and, dare I say, wide to find someone who did it wrong.

    MonkeyPuck did it right.

    The OP is doing it wrong and cites examples of others who do it wrong in order to reach a false conclusion that here is no right way and it is impossible and futile.

    OnTheWayToMe should cancel his membership in RealJock and join FatPeopleForSelfAcceptance.com
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    Jul 11, 2009 2:30 PM GMT
    LittleDudeWithMuscles saidOn The Way: I offer this only in a constructive and positive way.

    Would you consider counseling?

    You may not realize it, but its extremely obvious that your outlook and behaviors are self-defeating and self-destructive.

    You also seem to think there's a quick fix for your weight problem. There's not. Like just about everything that's worthwhile. . . it takes a fair amount of time to accomplish a goal.

    The thing is, the journey to the goal offers instant rewards. And that in itself is motivating. Wouldn't you feel great if you dropped, say, six or eight or ten pounds after a month?

    Maybe that's not as dramatic as dangerous surgery with all the side effects. . . but it would certainly encourage you and give you a different attitude about things.

    That said, I think it's imperative that you add counseling to a weight loss program. Would you at least try to see a counselor?


    No!
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    Jul 11, 2009 2:30 PM GMT
    Dear "On The Way to Me":

    I think your time (and other RJ members' time as well?) would be better spent doing the things each of us needs to do to be/stay in good shape physically, mentally and spiritually. Where does posting / replying to endless emails about the same topic to the same person help? I think that "On The Way to Me" should do the surgery if he really has the money or insurance to do so, but also get the counseling he so clearly needs before and after the operation.

    I, though, would never want to have any unnecesary surgery fooling around with my innards! I think having my mouth wired shut (like the girl in the movie CAMP) sound much more appealing (well, except for the part about not being able to suck cock anymore! LOL So maybe scratch that choice.)

    I have lost my weight naturally... as of today, 48lbs since February. Not monumental, but I do feel a hell of a lot better, physically and mentally. Some days I have no interest in overeating my calorie limit, other days it's a real struggle not to... maybe once a month I break down and give in and eat something totally fabulous (like I did over Pride/July 4th week) and gain 3 lbs. I am far from perfect... while I've lost weight, I've not gained muscle because (surprise!) I haven't been exercising the last 2 months. But that too will change at some point soon.

    Yeah, part of my constant lifelong battle is bad genes... but most of my weight gain is just bad habits which I have no one to blame for except me. I decided to finally stop feeling sorry for myself, finally stop feeling guilty about my second partner's premature and fatal heart attack and lose the weight at age 52, because I really would prefer not joining my first two partners in either of their graves in MY 50's and before my time. That simple.

    I think folks here at RJ have been incredibly supportive of you, in small or large (no pun intended, believe me) ways over the years it seems. And I do think that Chuckstud calling out 'fatass' is helpful as well, at times! LOL I've certainly learned a lot reading these strings... but enough is enough? I think we're allowing ourselves to be sucked into an endless discussion here with someone who is only exercising his fingers typing on the keyboard?

    As someone here said previously, perhaps Chuckstud, it all become just 'noise' we'll just learn to filter out and ignore?
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    Jul 11, 2009 3:04 PM GMT
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    LittleDudeWithMuscles saidOn The Way: I offer this only in a constructive and positive way.

    Would you consider counseling?

    You may not realize it, but its extremely obvious that your outlook and behaviors are self-defeating and self-destructive.

    You also seem to think there's a quick fix for your weight problem. There's not. Like just about everything that's worthwhile. . . it takes a fair amount of time to accomplish a goal.

    The thing is, the journey to the goal offers instant rewards. And that in itself is motivating. Wouldn't you feel great if you dropped, say, six or eight or ten pounds after a month?

    Maybe that's not as dramatic as dangerous surgery with all the side effects. . . but it would certainly encourage you and give you a different attitude about things.

    That said, I think it's imperative that you add counseling to a weight loss program. Would you at least try to see a counselor?


    No!


    Until you're mentally ready to loose the weight you never will. You should heed the above advice.
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    Jul 11, 2009 3:04 PM GMT
    Why are you on a fitness and health site if you have zero interest in either?
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    Jul 11, 2009 3:06 PM GMT
    MsclDrew saidBetter to just stay home and sit on you ass, you can always have them liposuction 60lbs off your thighs biweekly......just the way nature intended


    (Sigh) More rock throwing.