jtaustin saidBERLIN August 2009 --- 15th till 23rd World Championships
(I watched the DKB-ISTAF (Berlin - June '09). Did you hear any final word on how the athletes felt about the new track surface?)
Looking forward (as most are) to the Men's 100, 400, 1500, 4x100, 4x400 Women's 100, 400, 4x100, 4x400
also the: pole vault, high jump, decathlon
I've been following the lead-up events to Berlin and also like the early season relay meets: penn, drake, texas, mt sac.
No I haven't heard anything as yet concerning the track. I was at the golden league meet in Berlin last year. It's a great stadium. I could be wrong but the track doesn't seem especially fast
Mens 100 - Bolt Mens 200 - Bolt Mens 400 - Merrit
Tyson is good, but I don't think he can beat Bolt. He stands a better chance in the 200M to do it though
Womens 100 - this is too close to call -I'm going to give the edge to Kerron Stewart- she seems to be the most consistent thus far
Women's 400 - Sanya Richards has to be the favorite
4x100 Men = Tough one- the US has to stop dropping the bloody batton though. It's going to be the US and Jamaica
4x100 women - tough one- Both the US and Jamaica have to stop dropping the batton- US and Jamaica challenging for top honours in this one as well
Decathlon is wide open High jump and pole vault I haven't been following much except for Isinbayeva
There are going to be some close races in the middle and long distances as well.
Caught some of the Golden Gala from Rome (took place july 10th) last night on Universal Sports.
Tyson ran a 9.77 - currently the world leading time. I'm still favoring Bolt, but I think it will be a better race than the Olympics. Tyson looked ragged in the prelims and ran a 9.96. Looked a lot smoother in the final. The announcers said he'd only run maybe 1 other 100 this year? He'd been concentrating on the 400. Asafa went a 9.96
Karron Stewart ran a 10.75 at the same meet. She looks amazing. She was pulling away from the field at the end of the race.
Sanya Richards went a 49 mid (don't remember the exact time), leaving the field behind in the last 30 meters. very strong race
I didn't see the men's 400.
Also, I wasn't aware that the IAAF was considering abolishing the false start rule. Anyone jumping the gun would be DQ'd. Sounds like the decision will be made in Berlin for the 2010 season. Wonder what affect that will have on World Records that are current when the rule takes effect?
jtaustin saidCaught some of the Golden Gala from Rome (took place july 10th) last night on Universal Sports.
Tyson ran a 9.77 - currently the world leading time. I'm still favoring Bolt, but I think it will be a better race than the Olympics. Tyson looked ragged in the prelims and ran a 9.96. Looked a lot smoother in the final. The announcers said he'd only run maybe 1 other 100 this year? He'd been concentrating on the 400. Asafa went a 9.96
Karron Stewart ran a 10.75 at the same meet. She looks amazing. She was pulling away from the field at the end of the race.
Sanya Richards went a 49 mid (don't remember the exact time), leaving the field behind in the last 30 meters. very strong race
I didn't see the men's 400.
Yeah I saw the event on UniversalSports the same day that it was taking place
Tyson looked a lot smoother true - but I'm still giving it to Bolt in the 100M and 200M
I don't know if it's the jet lag or someting, but except for Tyson and Richards Americans are not performing very well in Europe.
Sort of like what happened in Beijing. It's as if they peak for the US trials and that's it! I mean for the US trials Jeter and Lee both ran around 10.8 to win. Jeter could only now manage 11.01 in the same final that Stewart won in 10.75. Lee didn't even make it to the final. I think she ran 11.4 in her semis If Jeter and Lee don't get their act together quickly - it will be another Jamaican sweep in the ladies 100M
Actually I think Asasfa ran 9.88 in the final when tyson ran 9.77
I was wondering about tapers. I guess it makes sense that the US times went up. If they tapered for Oregon, they should be increasing their miles right now before tapering again for Berlin. Last time I competed in T&F was High School - so I never had to peak for multiple meets. But that's how we played the taper game in swimming.
With athletes at this level - sometimes I think it matters more where their heads are on the day rather than their bodies (barring injury). And Bolt always seems to be riding high with confidence. I think he'll win as well... but I hope it's at least a good race.
I was wondering about tapers. I guess it makes sense that the US times went up. If they tapered for Oregon, they should be increasing their miles right now before tapering again for Berlin. Last time I competed in T&F was High School - so I never had to peak for multiple meets. But that's how we played the taper game in swimming.
With athletes at this level - sometimes I think it matters more where their heads are on the day rather than their bodies (barring injury). And Bolt always seems to be riding high with confidence. I think he'll win as well... but I hope it's at least a good race.
Thanks for the website!
quite welcome. my pleasure.
I ran track in highschool as well as first to years at uni, i don't understand why the american athletes are tapering at the wrong times. perhaps we need to send them to jamaica
and look at this. in a competition held today in Athens another female jamaican athlete just ran another sub 10. The best the american athlete could do was an 11.04. and she's our best prospect!!!
I tell you if they don't get their act together the jamaicans will run 1,2,3,4 !!!!!
I was wondering about tapers. I guess it makes sense that the US times went up. If they tapered for Oregon, they should be increasing their miles right now before tapering again for Berlin. Last time I competed in T&F was High School - so I never had to peak for multiple meets. But that's how we played the taper game in swimming.
With athletes at this level - sometimes I think it matters more where their heads are on the day rather than their bodies (barring injury). And Bolt always seems to be riding high with confidence. I think he'll win as well... but I hope it's at least a good race.
Thanks for the website!
it could be a new blue - but no i saw a blue track in 2007 and 2008 when i went to the golden league meet
I was wondering about tapers. I guess it makes sense that the US times went up. If they tapered for Oregon, they should be increasing their miles right now before tapering again for Berlin. Last time I competed in T&F was High School - so I never had to peak for multiple meets. But that's how we played the taper game in swimming.
With athletes at this level - sometimes I think it matters more where their heads are on the day rather than their bodies (barring injury). And Bolt always seems to be riding high with confidence. I think he'll win as well... but I hope it's at least a good race.
Thanks for the website!
I think the men 100M and 200M will both be good races
I think Tyson will pust bolt. If conditions are right I expect the following
100M bolt wins in 9.59 : Tyson second in 9.72 200M bolt wins in 19.42: Tyson second in 19.50
Oh man, I just saw Bolt win the 200 in Lausanne (7/7/09). In.The.Rain 19.59. He beat the field by at least 10m. It's going to be a huge upset if he doesn't win in Berlin.
jtaustin saidOh man, I just saw Bolt win the 200 in Lausanne (7/7/09). In.The.Rain 19.59. He beat the field by at least 10m. It's going to be a huge upset if he doesn't win in Berlin.
yeah and did you see who was running behind him in 2nd and 3rd?????
2nd was Merrit the Olympic 400M champion who runs a decent 200M. He has run 20.00
3rd was Shawn Crawford who ran 19.6 to win the US championships only 2 weeks earlier. In this race I think he ran 20.40
I mean come on!! What's wrong with this picture? Bolt made them look like rank amateurs
jtaustin saidPainful... the camera had to shift angles just to keep the other runners in the picture. Ouch.
I'm curious to know what the training strategy is to keep the runners prepped for this series of meets. US vs JAM - what they're doing differently.
that's a good question. I wish i knew. I think we are all under the assumption that since the US is the wealthier we would have the best of facilities. We had the best drug labs it is true.
but there seems to be something drastically wrong now
i ran track in high school.. 100m was really good. if i stayed home i would be on the national team...but i had bigger dreams.. and Mr bolt has done my nation proud.....
tereseus1 saidi ran track in high school.. 100m was really good. if i stayed home i would be on the national team...but i had bigger dreams.. and Mr bolt has done my nation proud.....
Well you could have used running as a stepping stone to your dreams, you know?
Yes he certainly has. He has taken sprinting into a different universe.
tereseus1 saidi ran track in high school.. 100m was really good. if i stayed home i would be on the national team...but i had bigger dreams.. and Mr bolt has done my nation proud.....
Well you could have used running as a stepping stone to your dreams, you know?
Yes he certainly has. He has taken sprinting into a different universe.
true.......but i was always a Bookworm....so i stick to what i loved the best,.
tereseus1 saidi ran track in high school.. 100m was really good. if i stayed home i would be on the national team...but i had bigger dreams.. and Mr bolt has done my nation proud.....
Well you could have used running as a stepping stone to your dreams, you know?
Yes he certainly has. He has taken sprinting into a different universe.
true.......but i was always a Bookworm....so i stick to what i loved the best,.
I grew up playing football [running back mostly],until the track coach told me to try out for the team...I did and ran the 4/40 relay and the 100... Running gives me an awsome high, at times i believe i can fly...
Jeremy Wariner looked sluggish though. Merrit is going to dust the track with him
I didn't see Wariner's race in Paris, but I don't think he's looked good since he changed coaches.... Ah, I just read some press from Paris on iaaf.org and Wariner is back (since May '09) with Clyde Hart.
jgymnast733 saidI grew up playing football [running back mostly],until the track coach told me to try out for the team...I did and ran the 4/40 relay and the 100... Running gives me an awsome high, at times i believe i can fly...
i know I used to get that feeling myself sometimes as well. There were days when it felt like I was running on clouds. Effortlessly. An amazing feeling
Jeremy Wariner looked sluggish though. Merrit is going to dust the track with him
I didn't see Wariner's race in Paris, but I don't think he's looked good since he changed coaches.... Ah, I just read some press from Paris on iaaf.org and Wariner is back (since May '09) with Clyde Hart.
Yeah- he's back with his old coach- He needs to get into shape quickly. I want a competitive race at Worlds. Right now it looks like a walk over for Merrit
I didn't realize that Sanya Richards is also coached by Clyde Hart. I keep hearing that she has trouble in meets when she has to run rounds. I hope he's come up with a strategy for her. I think it's brilliant the way she runs 'easy' the first 200, then pushes the third 100, and then powers home over the fourth 100.
jtaustin saidI didn't realize that Sanya Richards is also coached by Clyde Hart. I keep hearing that she has trouble in meets when she has to run rounds. I hope he's come up with a strategy for her. I think it's brilliant the way she runs 'easy' the first 200, then pushes the third 100, and then powers home over the fourth 100.
that is what the commentators say because of her performance in the olympics. they are talking a bunch of crap! take a look at her 400M from beijing. she had something go wrong in the last 100M - a cramp or something. you could clearly see it when it happened. she did mention it in her interview, but it was disregarded. plus she has an incurable disease.
i think she's quite good and she will be one of only two american sprinters who will be winning golds at worlds this year
Just saw the results of the last competition in Europe. The American female sprinters seem to be running back into form.
Carmelita Jeter just ran a sub 11sec 100M. Not as fast as the Jamaicans, but she's getting there. My fave athlete Allyson Felix was second in 11.04 which means she's getting her speed work done. She should win the 200M worlds for the 3rd time straight.
I think the best run of the night was by Jeter. She anchored the 4x100 (C. Jeter, L. Williams, A. Felix, M. Hooker) and looked very strong. I'd like to see the splits.
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Just checked the results to see what happened on day 2. Jeter won the 100 in 10.92 - Allyson Felix was 6th with 11.29 Gay went 20 flat in the 200.
All the times have been a bit off at this meet. I think the weather conditions are a bit sub-par: colder than normal and windy.
However... 4x100 men (if you find a video of this... please post): 1 RACERS TC JAM 37.46 (D. Bailey, Y. Blake, M. Forsythe, U. Bolt) 2 UNITED STATES USA 38.05 (T. Trammell, W. Spearmon, S. Crawford, R. Edwards)
I think the best run of the night was by Jeter. She anchored the 4x100 (C. Jeter, L. Williams, A. Felix, M. Hooker) and looked very strong. I'd like to see the splits.
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Just checked the results to see what happened on day 2. Jeter won the 100 in 10.92 - Allyson Felix was 6th with 11.29 Gay went 20 flat in the 200.
All the times have been a bit off at this meet. I think the weather conditions are a bit sub-par: colder than normal and windy.
However... 4x100 men (if you find a video of this... please post): 1 RACERS TC JAM 37.46 (D. Bailey, Y. Blake, M. Forsythe, U. Bolt) 2 UNITED STATES USA 38.05 (T. Trammell, W. Spearmon, S. Crawford, R. Edwards)
Felix says that she's running the 100Ms and using them as practics for the 200M. Honestly I don't know what the hell shes doing. 2 weeks ago she ran 11.00. Oi- as long as she wins the 200M at worlds
Jeter is still running in the 10.9 range. The Jamaicans top two are running 10.7 and 10.8. She needs a dramatic improvement to be a contender
The times were indeed a bit off. Although Bolt's 100M run was compared to a 9.7 when you adjust the negative win factor. So he's still performing true to form.
Tyson's groin injury is now a problem - there's now no way he can be a serious challenge to Bolt.
I think the best run of the night was by Jeter. She anchored the 4x100 (C. Jeter, L. Williams, A. Felix, M. Hooker) and looked very strong. I'd like to see the splits.
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Just checked the results to see what happened on day 2. Jeter won the 100 in 10.92 - Allyson Felix was 6th with 11.29 Gay went 20 flat in the 200.
All the times have been a bit off at this meet. I think the weather conditions are a bit sub-par: colder than normal and windy.
However... 4x100 men (if you find a video of this... please post): 1 RACERS TC JAM 37.46 (D. Bailey, Y. Blake, M. Forsythe, U. Bolt) 2 UNITED STATES USA 38.05 (T. Trammell, W. Spearmon, S. Crawford, R. Edwards)
It would have been good to see what a 4 female Jamaican quartet would have run. On paper they should win...
Blackguy4you saidOh BTW incase you missed any of the Golden League Meet recently held in Rome,, UniversalSports is showing it now 11PM EST
See, I'd love to follow this stuff...but I don't have cable anymore.
Where is the best site for finding all the footage and info online?
I don't have cable either. When I hooked up one of the digital converter boxes to the TV, one of the new channels we get is Universal Sports (NBC). There is also a website:
I wonder about the ability of Tyson's coaches & staff. I would think they would know how to prepare and maintain his body for a series of meets. It's not as though Tyson is new to the sport and still trying to figure out how his body reacts to training and racing.
I still can't believe that he cramped (or whatever) at trials. At this point in his career, he should have his diet, hydration, warm-up, cool down, stretching, massage and whatever else needs to be done down to a science.
He's gotten injured two years in a row, right before the biggest meet of the year. That seems like a pretty clear sign to me that he needs to reevaluate the trainers / physical therapists he's working with.
jtaustin saidI wonder about the ability of Tyson's coaches & staff. I would think they would know how to prepare and maintain his body for a series of meets. It's not as though Tyson is new to the sport and still trying to figure out how his body reacts to training and racing.
I still can't believe that he cramped (or whatever) at trials. At this point in his career, he should have his diet, hydration, warm-up, cool down, stretching, massage and whatever else needs to be done down to a science.
He's gotten injured two years in a row, right before the biggest meet of the year. That seems like a pretty clear sign to me that he needs to reevaluate the trainers / physical therapists he's working with.
true that. at only 26 he should be at his prime. perhaps he's over doing stuff in his craze to beat bolt.
Allyson Felix 200 in 21.88. Looked amazing! Kerron Stewart was well back - didn't challenge Allyson at all.
Tyson ran 9.79 (didn't see this - but ) Darvis Patton 9.95 Asafa Powell 9.98
Wariner won in 44.83
I'm watching this on UniversalSports now. I'm taping it to DVD. Allyson did look amazing: just like her old self. If she keeps this up she should win the 200M at worlds. Definitely she's the one to beat.
Wariner still doesn't look like his old self. I was expecting him to do a 44 low or 43 high
Mens 100M - Bolt Mens 200M - Bolt Mens 400M - Meritt
Womens 100 - Stewart Womens 200M- Felix Womens 400M - Richards
I agree. I've been trying to figure out what I think Bolt's 100 time will be. I've seen him run 3 or 4 races now, but I really don't get the sense that he's pushed himself. I think he'll get a world record (weather permitting)...hmm - still thinking on it.
Are you staying with your earlier predictions?
100M bolt wins in 9.59 : Tyson second in 9.72 200M bolt wins in 19.42: Tyson second in 19.50
Mens 100M - Bolt Mens 200M - Bolt Mens 400M - Meritt
Womens 100 - Stewart Womens 200M- Felix Womens 400M - Richards
I agree. I've been trying to figure out what I think Bolt's 100 time will be. I've seen him run 3 or 4 races now, but I really don't get the sense that he's pushed himself. I think he'll get a world record (weather permitting)...hmm - still thinking on it.
Are you staying with your earlier predictions?
100M bolt wins in 9.59 : Tyson second in 9.72 200M bolt wins in 19.42: Tyson second in 19.50
I'm not quite sure anymore about the times. They both have been running in the 9.7s I think Bolt can go faster, I don't think Tyson can though.
I would say 100M Bolt 9.62 Tyson 9.74 200M Bolt in 19.40 - Tyson 19.55
I will have a better sense if and when I see them in their first rounds.
jtaustin said Thanks - but I couldn't access the link - I got a 'spy blocking' message.
I found this on Iaaf's website - provisional list of athletes by event... Athletes by event
I looks like Sat from noon - 2 there's coverage on NBC. And Sunday from 1 to 3.
Yeah - that's the same list
I was hoping NBC would not be the ones to telecast it again - not after the piss poor job they've done with the olympics over the years
so what will we be expecting to see
only the events with american athletes in em then bolt, because he's the man lots of inane feel good stories about american athletes taped events i.e non live tons of commercials i so friggin hate nbc!!!!!!!!!
I was just checking Universal Sports website and it lists IAAF Worlds Day 1 Session 1 starting at 4am on the 15th. I wonder what that coverage will be? And Day 1 Session 2 starting at 11:45 on the 15th.
I'm actually hoping to find a European webcast. I'll do some searching once things get started. That's how I watched the Tour de France this year and it was much better than any US TV coverage - not that there was any US TV coverage.
I was just checking Universal Sports website and it lists IAAF Worlds Day 1 Session 1 starting at 4am on the 15th. I wonder what that coverage will be? And Day 1 Session 2 starting at 11:45 on the 15th.
I'm actually hoping to find a European webcast. I'll do some searching once things get started. That's how I watched the Tour de France this year and it was much better than any US TV coverage - not that there was any US TV coverage.
See this sounds more like it. a 4AM EST start means they are showing all the heats since that is the morning session when all the elimination heats usually happen.
Damn! but that means I'm going to be getting more bags udner my eyes from getting up so early. It's a good thing i'm black!!
jtaustin saidIt says 'Live event' so maybe it will be good coverage. If it's live, NBC won't have time to edit in any of that 'athlete fell good' stuff.
Eh- NBCs coverage of Beijing was supposed to be "live" as well. Live to the idiots at the station perhaps
I wonder if the universal coverage will be web casted or telecasted. Sometimes i don't know with them.
there are times that their online indicators of what should be showing on tv don't match what's actually showing.
BERLIN (AP) -- The Jamaican team asked track's governing body to withdraw six athletes, including former 100-meter world-record holder Asafa Powell and two Olympic gold medalists, from the world championships entry list Wednesday in an apparent dispute over training camp attendance.
IAAF secretary general Pierre Weiss said the request was made early Wednesday but didn't disclose a reason. The Jamaican athletics federation has been in a dispute with several athletes over a training camp for worlds.
The other athletes are 100 Olympic champion Shelly-Ann Fraser, 400 hurdles Olympic gold medalist Melaine Walker, hurdler Brigitte Foster-Hylton, sprinter Shericka Williams and 400 runner Kaliese Spence.
The request could be rescinded because the final entry list has to be with organizers 48 hours before the opening event. The worlds start Saturday in Berlin, and the withdrawals will only become official at midday Thursday.
Jamaican officials attending the IAAF congress declined to immediately comment.
Any such pullout would seriously undermine Jamaica's chances of maintaining its domination over the United States in the sprint events that it established at last year's Beijing Olympics.
After capturing five of six sprint events in Beijing with the U.S. winless, Jamaica's rise had been expected to be a key theme at the worlds.
Even though three-time Olympic champion Usain Bolt is not directly affected by the decision, a sprint relay team without Powell is expected to be weaker. Powell ran the anchor leg in Beijing as Jamaica set a world record, one of three for Bolt at the games.
The Jamaican federation also asked the IAAF to ban the withdrawn runners from the athletes village.
Earlier this week, Jamaican Amateur Athletic Association president Howard Aris warned the athletes that they would miss worlds unless they appear at a training camp outside Berlin.
jtaustin saidIt says 'Live event' so maybe it will be good coverage. If it's live, NBC won't have time to edit in any of that 'athlete fell good' stuff.
taking into account the time difference -NBC's live telecast is probably just the evening session. Thank God there's no swimming or gymnastic or beach volleyball is all i can say!!!!!!!!!!
BERLIN (AP) -- The Jamaican team asked track's governing body to withdraw six athletes, including former 100-meter world-record holder Asafa Powell and two Olympic gold medalists, from the world championships entry list Wednesday in an apparent dispute over training camp attendance.
IAAF secretary general Pierre Weiss said the request was made early Wednesday but didn't disclose a reason. The Jamaican athletics federation has been in a dispute with several athletes over a training camp for worlds.
The other athletes are 100 Olympic champion Shelly-Ann Fraser, 400 hurdles Olympic gold medalist Melaine Walker, hurdler Brigitte Foster-Hylton, sprinter Shericka Williams and 400 runner Kaliese Spence.
The request could be rescinded because the final entry list has to be with organizers 48 hours before the opening event. The worlds start Saturday in Berlin, and the withdrawals will only become official at midday Thursday.
Jamaican officials attending the IAAF congress declined to immediately comment.
Any such pullout would seriously undermine Jamaica's chances of maintaining its domination over the United States in the sprint events that it established at last year's Beijing Olympics.
After capturing five of six sprint events in Beijing with the U.S. winless, Jamaica's rise had been expected to be a key theme at the worlds.
Even though three-time Olympic champion Usain Bolt is not directly affected by the decision, a sprint relay team without Powell is expected to be weaker. Powell ran the anchor leg in Beijing as Jamaica set a world record, one of three for Bolt at the games.
The Jamaican federation also asked the IAAF to ban the withdrawn runners from the athletes village.
Earlier this week, Jamaican Amateur Athletic Association president Howard Aris warned the athletes that they would miss worlds unless they appear at a training camp outside Berlin.
yeah i read about this on another site. they were supposed to be there in order to give their blood and urine samples as well. they apparently did the same thing in beijing and got away with it. this time the jamaican ruling body is saying enough
well asafa wasn't going to win anything anyhow so that's no great loss! but the 100M women's competition would be lesssened if Fraser doesn't show! that would be a shame!
hmmmm i wonder if it was just a matter of disagreement with their track club and the jamaican officials or something more sinister!
jtaustin saidIt says 'Live event' so maybe it will be good coverage. If it's live, NBC won't have time to edit in any of that 'athlete fell good' stuff.
taking into account the time difference -NBC's live telecast is probably just the evening session. Thank God there's no swimming or gymnastic or beach volleyball is all i can say!!!!!!!!!!
Harumph! No disrespecting swimming now...
I totally agree about gymnastics & beach volleyball though.
yeah i read about this on another site. they were supposed to be there in order to give their blood and urine samples as well. they apparently did the same thing in beijing and got away with it. this time the jamaican ruling body is saying enough
well asafa wasn't going to win anything anyhow so that's no great loss! but the 100M women's competition would be lesssened if Fraser doesn't show! that would be a shame!
hmmmm i wonder if it was just a matter of disagreement with their track club and the jamaican officials or something more sinister!
I was thinking more in terms of the 4x100 relays. I was hoping to see a good battle btwn the US & JAM in both the mens & womens.
Yeah, you have to wonder about the reasons for purposefully skipping a required team meeting/practice. Especially if there is a scheduled drug test. Suspicious to say the least.
jtaustin saidIt says 'Live event' so maybe it will be good coverage. If it's live, NBC won't have time to edit in any of that 'athlete fell good' stuff.
taking into account the time difference -NBC's live telecast is probably just the evening session. Thank God there's no swimming or gymnastic or beach volleyball is all i can say!!!!!!!!!!
Harumph! No disrespecting swimming now...
I totally agree about gymnastics & beach volleyball though.
LOL - no disrespect meant. I meant if those sports were also on offering we would be seeing them instead of the track events. Perhaps I should go up to canada for the week just in case.... then again perhaps not! i'm not sold on the fact that canada actually exists as yet!
yeah i read about this on another site. they were supposed to be there in order to give their blood and urine samples as well. they apparently did the same thing in beijing and got away with it. this time the jamaican ruling body is saying enough
well asafa wasn't going to win anything anyhow so that's no great loss! but the 100M women's competition would be lesssened if Fraser doesn't show! that would be a shame!
hmmmm i wonder if it was just a matter of disagreement with their track club and the jamaican officials or something more sinister!
I was thinking more in terms of the 4x100 relays. I was hoping to see a good battle btwn the US & JAM in both the mens & womens.
Yeah, you have to wonder about the reasons for purposefully skipping a required team meeting/practice. Especially if there is a scheduled drug test. Suspicious to say the least.
very suspicious
ah yes the relays. well i think both men and women run their times the jamaicans would win the men and the us win the women
I read about this awhile ago, and just today I read on UnivSports
"Jorge Salcedo, the head of the technical commission of the IAAF, said the current system favored cheaters who deliberately committed a first false start to put their opponents on edge.
"There are athletes who do it on purpose," he told the rule-making congress, which approved the change by a 97-55 margin with six abstentions."
I read about this awhile ago, and just today I read on UnivSports
"Jorge Salcedo, the head of the technical commission of the IAAF, said the current system favored cheaters who deliberately committed a first false start to put their opponents on edge.
"There are athletes who do it on purpose," he told the rule-making congress, which approved the change by a 97-55 margin with six abstentions."
true, but there are some honest athletes who don't. it will be interesting to see what happens
True, but there are also quite a few athletes who make it obvious they try to anticipate rather than react to the gun. Of course they can still do that, only the consequences will now be much higher if they get it wrong. It will be interesting to see how it plays out in 2010.
true, but there are some honest athletes who don't. it will be interesting to see what happens
True, but there are also quite a few athletes who make it obvious they try and anticipate rather than react to the gun. Of course they can still do that, only the consequences will now be much higher if they get it wrong. It will be interesting to see how it plays out in 2010.
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ah but if you are in a race with bolt or tyson, you know you need that little extra
DCEric saidI run, but mostly in charity events. Nothing really to chat about, because my goal is to finish the race, not to get a good time.
BLAH BLAH BLAH, What kind of attitude is this? This medeocre attitude of just accepting finishing. Where is that competitive spirit. Why not just raise money, why run as well? There is no need to run. Anyone can raise money for charity and anyone can complete a marathon, 5k, 10k and so on. How can anyone accept just finishing? How can you not have a desire to be better, to go farther, and go faster?
Most races and I call them races, have a charity associated with them but they are still races! Usually if its not a race, its a walk.
calibro saidTrack and Field is an Olympic sport, as is if it's not during the Olympics, no one really knows all that much about it. .
Well because Athletics is not a team sport so its usually broadcast only at the Olympics. However I have had the opportunity of watching the Penn Relays, The Prefontaine Classic on NBC here in North America. We dont see much of the Golden League except the little that shows on CBC here in Canada! Bolt actually came to run here in Toronto in June and they are trying to build Athletics here in Canada. But ultimately, people would rather go to a football game, or baseball game cause its slow and they have time to get their beer without missing anything. North America is about the team sports! Which is sad really cause so many excellent athletes are competeing in other individual sports that get little attention.
I cant wait to see the distance events, 1500m and the Marathon in Berlin! It does start this weekend!
DCEric saidI run, but mostly in charity events. Nothing really to chat about, because my goal is to finish the race, not to get a good time.
BLAH BLAH BLAH, What kind of attitude is this? This medeocre attitude of just accepting finishing. Where is that competitive spirit. Why not just raise money, why run as well? There is no need to run. Anyone can raise money for charity and anyone can complete a marathon, 5k, 10k and so on. How can anyone accept just finishing? How can you not have a desire to be better, to go farther, and go faster?
Most races and I call them races, have a charity associated with them but they are still races! Usually if its not a race, its a walk.
LOL - you are a funny dude
calibro saidTrack and Field is an Olympic sport, as is if it's not during the Olympics, no one really knows all that much about it. .
Well because Athletics is not a team sport so its usually broadcast only at the Olympics. However I have had the opportunity of watching the Penn Relays, The Prefontaine Classic on NBC here in North America. We dont see much of the Golden League except the little that shows on CBC here in Canada! Bolt actually came to run here in Toronto in June and they are trying to build Athletics here in Canada. But ultimately, people would rather go to a football game, or baseball game cause its slow and they have time to get their beer without missing anything. North America is about the team sports! Which is sad really cause so many excellent athletes are competeing in other individual sports that get little attention.
I cant wait to see the distance events, 1500m and the Marathon in Berlin! It does start this weekend!
I'm more looking forward to the sprints. But I would like to see Lagat in the 1500 as well as Defar and Dibaba as well in the distances
I read yesterday that Dibaba might be injured. They took her to the hospital... I never heard what the injury/severity was.
Edit - here's what I read:
"Another bigger name, Ethiopia's Tirunesh Dibaba, could also find herself scratching from the meet. A shin injury has caused Dibaba to struggle this outdoor season to regain the form that carried her to gold in both the 5000m and 10,000m at the Beijing Games.
On Monday, EthioBerlin20009, a new website launched to track Ethiopian athletes at these Worlds, reported that Dibaba dropped out of a training session on Friday in serious pain and was taken to the hospital for an MRI. She was apparently then flown to Munich for treatment. A decision on her fitness to compete is expected to be made on Thursday.
Should Dibaba not recover in time for the women's 10,000m final on Saturday, team officials have already lined up national 10,000m champion Aberu Kebede as a replacement, while Tirunesh's younger sister, Genzebe, could be slotted in for the women's 5000m.
Dibaba's husband, Sileshi Sihine, is also looking less likely to compete at Worlds. Sihine, who has taken silver behind Kenenisa Bekele in the 10,000m at the 2008 Olympics and 2007 World Championships , is also suffering from a leg injury which, according to a team doctor, is "the most serious injury or illness we have in the team." Although the doctor said Sihine has been unable to complete a full training session, his situation is being monitored "very closely.""
So I got up at 5:30AM this morning to watch the events. Hoping beyond hope that they would be shown on TV. Turned my TV on and what is UniversalSports showing - Swimming!!!!!!!!!!! I guess it could have been worse... it could have been beach VB!
Blackguy4you said So I got up at 5:30AM this morning to watch the events. Hoping beyond hope that they would be shown on TV. Turned my TV on and what is UniversalSports showing - Swimming!!!!!!!!!!! I guess it could have been worse... it could have been beach VB!
jtaustin saidAsafa looked GREAT in the quarters. What is up with Tyson's start. ugh.
What da hell indeed??!@?!? He better get with the act or else he's gonna get left! There's no way he can come close to Bolt! Not with that start!
Asafa looks good indeed- And if he can get the mental stuff taken care of he would be a definite for the silver!
Just what I was thinking about Asafa - he needs a sports psychologist or something to get his head in the game. He's got the talent, but his mental prep is shaky at best.
jtaustin saidAsafa looked GREAT in the quarters. What is up with Tyson's start. ugh.
What da hell indeed??!@?!? He better get with the act or else he's gonna get left! There's no way he can come close to Bolt! Not with that start!
Asafa looks good indeed- And if he can get the mental stuff taken care of he would be a definite for the silver!
Just what I was thinking about Asafa - he needs a sports psychologist or something to get his head in the game. He's got the talent, but his mental prep is shaky at best.
Isn't it weird how runs the heats well, but just doesn't show up for the finals? It's like two different people running
Umm, it's too bad that Dibaba was injured. I always want to see the favorites healthy and that the top of their game. But for this race, at this moment in time - what a brilliant win for Masai!
jtaustin saidUmm, it's too bad that Dibaba was injured. I always want to see the favorites healthy and that the top of their game. But for this race, at this moment in time - what a brilliant win for Masai!
Yeah the womens 10,000 was great to watch! That finish was phenomenal. Defar just faded in the last 20m and finished 4th! Such a tough race. Mens should be good too!
Mens 1500 heats were good too! Canadian Nate Brennan got tripped up but still qualified for the semis.
I heard Dibaba scratched the 10,000 and is in hospital but still hoping to run the 5,000.
Bolt is phenomenal and watching him run is just awesome. Powel however almost didnt qualify, he pulled up too soon in the 1st round. But 2nd round he ran awesome and made sure he secured his spot. Bolt was also showbaoting in the 2nd round of heats.
jtaustin saidOk, the shot put... at what point does the bulk interfere with technique and become a liability?
That one I don't know- i sort of lose interest in that event - the men just seem to be a bunch of fat asses. Not like the javelin throwers at all. And I don't see any dicks flopping about either - so I don't see the point of the event.
can_duathlete saidYeah the womens 10,000 was great to watch! That finish was phenomenal. Defar just faded in the last 20m and finished 4th! Such a tough race. Mens should be good too!
Mens 1500 heats were good too! Canadian Nate Brennan got tripped up but still qualified for the semis.
I heard Dibaba scratched the 10,000 and is in hospital but still hoping to run the 5,000.
Bolt is phenomenal and watching him run is just awesome. Powel however almost didnt qualify, he pulled up too soon in the 1st round. But 2nd round he ran awesome and made sure he secured his spot. Bolt was also showbaoting in the 2nd round of heats.
Eh I think Defar came 5th. I think the positions were Kenyan, Ethopian, Ethopian, Kenyan, then Defar. She seems to have had a major breakdown in the last 40Ms.
I didn't see the 1500M where did you watch it?
Yeah I sw the 100Ms today. Bolt is certainly da man. He's in a different universe altogether. I expect him to win the 100M and the 200M quite easily.
Last I heard Dibaba and her husband were completely out of the competition.
jtaustin saidOk, the shot put... at what point does the bulk interfere with technique and become a liability?
That one I don't know- i sort of loose interest in that event - the men just seem to be a bunch of fat asses. Not like the javelin throwers at all. And I don't see any dicks flopping about either - so I don't see the point of the event.
OK Gay is improving, but he seems to be working the hardest of the 3. Bolt looks as if he's going for a jog in the park. Powell is like a bullet
At first, When I looked the times up, I thought Gay's reaction was going to be much slower that Bolt's - but in the quarters, same time. Which I thought was pretty hard to believe. So now I'm thinking it's not so much Gay's start, as his first 10M that's part of the problem?
I don't think I've seen Bolt run a 100M at 100% effort this year. I can't think of a race where he didn't ease up at some point before the line. Really looking forward to this race.
jtaustin saidOk, the shot put... at what point does the bulk interfere with technique and become a liability?
That one I don't know- i sort of lose interest in that event - the men just seem to be a bunch of fat asses. Not like the javelin throwers at all. And I don't see any dicks flopping about either - so I don't see the point of the event.
'bad visuals' does rather sum that event up...
it certainly does! take a look at the 3 guys who just medaled....
OK Gay is improving, but he seems to be working the hardest of the 3. Bolt looks as if he's going for a jog in the park. Powell is like a bullet
At first, When I looked the times up, I thought Gay's reaction was going to be much slower that Bolt's - but in the quarters, same time. Which I thought was pretty hard to believe. So now I'm thinking it's not so much Gay's start, as his first 10M that's part of the problem?
I don't think I've seen Bolt run a 100M at 100% effort this year. I can't think of a race where he didn't ease up at some point before the line. Really looking forward to this race.
I've seen Tyson run where he's a bullet out of the start. Haven't seen this as yet though. I wonder how much his groin is a factor
Asafa is flying
Bolt still to win quite easily. Tyson cannot catch him and the way he's running well....
Women The following all look good Stewart Campbell-Brown Williams Fraser Jeter- ran an amazing quarter. Fraser couldn't catch her.
Men 100M semis Bolt - jogged 9.89 - he's going to win this thing easily Tyson- start was crap again- he only won because Asafa slowed down. He can't beat Bolt. No way! Asafa had a brilliant start
Blackguy4you saidWow - Asafa was off like a bullet again! 0.119 - If only Tyson had gotten that start!
But it was always Bolt's race to lose
I just can't stop smiling.
Yeah, if Tyson had Asafa's start. That would have been one helluv a race. Bolt's race was brilliant, but if he had been challenged, I think he would have run even faster.
Yeah, who knows if he's clean. I really hope he is too.
I was just reading his bio from the olympic games bio (my dad was asking me some questions) and it said that 2006 was his first injury free season since he started running on the international circuit. So if you keep in mind that he's been able to train without injury, he's transitioned from boy to man physique wise, matured mentally, has some solid international experience and (probably most important) the natural athletic ability the kid has... It also said that in his late teens he was partying a lot... Well, I really want those things to be the reason!
I think it will be Stewart, Fraser, and (I hope) Jeter.
Stewart - 11.31 (.182), 10.92 (.149) - Season best 10.75 Personal best 10.75 Fraser - 11.41 (.187), 11.02 (.191) - SB 10.88 PB 10.78 Jeter - 11.22 (.197), 10.94 (.140) - SB 10.92 PB 10.92
But, I have the feeling that Jeter is peaking at the right time...so if the stars align properly and she has the perfect race... she might take the silver. I think the gold is there for Stewart. If she doesn't win, it will be an upset.
I think it will be Stewart, Fraser, and (I hope) Jeter.
Stewart - 11.31 (.182), 10.92 (.149) - Season best 10.75 Personal best 10.75 Fraser - 11.41 (.187), 11.02 (.191) - SB 10.88 PB 10.78 Jeter - 11.22 (.197), 10.94 (.140) - SB 10.92 PB 10.92
This is the one I can't seem to get a good hold of. I'll post a quick prediction after the semis today
Talking about semis. Don't know if you have it, but last night I accidentally discovered the Versus channel.
The events are being broadcasted live there. OK it is part of the NBC network, so only events with US athletes are being shown. Hence why I'm having difficulty with the women's 100M. There were no Americans in the Stewart race, thus it was not shown.
May be better to just watch it via the net. At least you see all the heats etc. And there are proper commentators via the net as well.
I do think if Jeter gets a good start that she will win. Fraser has to get one of those brilliant bullet starts in order to win. If Jeter and Stewart are with her for the first 5 meters they will beat her. Just like Jeter did in the quarters
Yeah, I was editing my last post when you were replying...
But, I have the feeling that Jeter is peaking at the right time...so if the stars align properly and she has the perfect race... she might take the silver. I think the gold is there for Stewart. If she doesn't win, it will be an upset.
jtaustin saidYeah, I was editing my last post when you were replying...
But, I have the feeling that Jeter is peaking at the right time...so if the stars align properly and she has the perfect race... she might take the silver. I think the gold is there for Stewart. If she doesn't win, it will be an upset.
Are you basing this on the 10.75 that Stewart ran earlier in the season?
jtaustin saidYeah, I was editing my last post when you were replying...
But, I have the feeling that Jeter is peaking at the right time...so if the stars align properly and she has the perfect race... she might take the silver. I think the gold is there for Stewart. If she doesn't win, it will be an upset.
Are you basing this on the 10.75 that Stewart ran earlier in the season?
Partially. She's been so strong this season, consistently running sub 11's. I can't remember anyone challenging her in any of the lead-up races. I think she'll run a PB. She has to be full of confidence. I hope her time is 10.69-10.71ish.
jtaustin saidYeah, I was editing my last post when you were replying...
But, I have the feeling that Jeter is peaking at the right time...so if the stars align properly and she has the perfect race... she might take the silver. I think the gold is there for Stewart. If she doesn't win, it will be an upset.
Are you basing this on the 10.75 that Stewart ran earlier in the season?
Partially. She's been so strong this season, consistently running sub 11's. I can't remember anyone challenging her in any of the lead-up races. I think she'll run a PB. She has to be full of confidence. I hope her time is 10.69-10.71ish.
Well, both Jeter and Fraser did beat her this year. Fraser did it twice and Jeter once.
No I don't see a 10.6 or even a 10.7. The track is too slow for that. Bolt only did it because he's a freak. I think about a 10.82 is what it's going to be.
Stewart 10.79 (.156) Jeter 10.83 (.144) Fraser 10.84 (.155)
It is going to be a great race!!! Top 3 within 5 hundredths
Oh wow! You are right! This one is going to be good!
I didn't think anyone would run 10.7. seems I was wrong. hmmmm
I'm already nervous about this race. I can't call it. It's going to be a fast one with the 3 ladies in the mix. It is all going to come down to the start. If Jeter gets a good start she's going to win
So it's between Stewart and Jeter I think. Fraser will have to have one of her bullet starts to be in the mix
OK I'm going to go out on a limb here and try to call it
jtaustin saidWow! Wish Stewart had gotten a better start...
Fraser 10.73 (.146) Stewart 10.75 (.170) Jeter 10.90 (.160)
Right exactly as i said - The start was what did it!
Fraser's start was substantially better than the two others. Stewart lost the race based on her start. But you know what - you are supposed to bring your best game to the final and she didn't. Congrats to the youngster!
Did you see the 10,000. What an amazing last lap. And! the little Spanish woman that won the Steeplechase. She was just so thrilled to have won. Charming!
jtaustin saidDid you see the 10,000. What an amazing last lap. And! the little Spanish woman that won the Steeplechase. She was just so thrilled to have won. Charming!
Yeah saw that- how about Isinbaeva no heighting in the pole vault?!
jtaustin saidDid you see the 10,000. What an amazing last lap. And! the little Spanish woman that won the Steeplechase. She was just so thrilled to have won. Charming!
Yeah saw that- how about Isinbaeva no heighting in the pole vault?!
That was a shock
I was surprised that she passed so many heights. She had a bad last meet, so I would have thought she would have wanted to clear an easier height to get herself on track. Felt bad for her...
jtaustin saidDid you see the 10,000. What an amazing last lap. And! the little Spanish woman that won the Steeplechase. She was just so thrilled to have won. Charming!
Yeah saw that- how about Isinbaeva no heighting in the pole vault?!
That was a shock
I was surprised that she passed so many heights. She had a bad last meet, so I would have thought she would have wanted to clear an easier height to get herself on track. Felt bad for her...
I feel bad for her as well. And the heights were pedestrian for her at best. I guess on some days shit can happen...
Do you ever wonder if it's just random events or is someone actually pulling the strings to make things like these happen!
I just read an article in this month's "Wired" magazine about placebos and I found this paragraph very interesting:
"One recent afternoon in his lab, a young soccer player grimaced with exertion while doing leg curls on a weight machine. Benedetti and his colleagues were exploring the potential of using Pavlovian conditioning to give athletes a competitive edge undetectable by anti-doping authorities. A player would receive doses of a performance-enhancing drug for weeks and then a jolt of placebo just before competition."
I just read an article in this month's "Wired" magazine about placebos and I found this paragraph very interesting:
"One recent afternoon in his lab, a young soccer player grimaced with exertion while doing leg curls on a weight machine. Benedetti and his colleagues were exploring the potential of using Pavlovian conditioning to give athletes a competitive edge undetectable by anti-doping authorities. A player would receive doses of a performance-enhancing drug for weeks and then a jolt of placebo just before competition."
So the placebo works as a masking agent? Wouldn't it still show in the blood work?
Bolt has got to be clean - if he isn't, it would be the death knell I think...
What about gene therapy that they are working on? I seem to recall an article about a month or so ago where they were talking about gene therapy that would make doping look like child's play.
I wonder if someone hasn't given bolt some cheetah genes already ....
SHANGHAI, China (Reuters) -- Former world champion Tyson Gay equaled the second fastest 100m time ever on Sunday when he clocked 9.69 seconds at the Shanghai Golden Grand Prix.
Gay’s time equaled the world record set by Jamaican Usain Bolt when he won the 100m final at last year’s Beijing Olympics.
Bolt reduced his record to 9.58 seconds at this year’s Berlin world championships.
Gay’s teammate Carmelita Jeter overtook Marion Jones as the world’s second fastest women over 100m when she clocked 9.64 seconds. Only the late Florence Griffith-Joyner has run faster.
The biggest cheer of the night came when former world and Olympic champion Liu Xiang looked to have edged Terrence Trammell in his first 110m hurdles race in more than a year.
However, the American was given the victory with both men clocking 13.15 seconds.
and Mr bolt has done my nation proud.....
message.
I'd need extra time and my starting blocks at 50m. 
yep the events are only being webcasted. Anyhow makes no sense agonizing of things I can't change