Some help with my job that I could lose and get in trouble for. (college student RA)

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    Jul 12, 2009 8:57 PM GMT
    So let me tell you guys the set up. I was just informed that I will be having a college "trial" in the mail.

    What happened was that the very last night of the semester I was downstairs in the basement playing video games with my friend who is also a co worker (only housing workers were allowed there the last night). Anyway I went up to the 3rd floor to get food from my room and then headed back down.I saw another coworker who gave me some of her drink(whether it was alcohol or not I didn't know it didn't taste like alcohol). On the way down I see 3 resident cordinators(highest position other then the director and co director).

    I said hello and walked by to downstairs to finish my game with my friend which I didn't think twice of. Next thing I know another Co-worker comes down in tears.She tells me the cordinators want to see me upstairs. I go upstairs and 2 of my co workers are getting busted for alcohol and somehow I am pulled into it. I was asked if I had known about them drinking I said I didn't. They asked me if I had been drinking and if I would take a breathalizer test. I said I had a sip of the girls drink(which i didn't know if it had alcohol in it and still don't know if it was the same drink) and that I agreed to be breathalized.

    The only reason I didn't question if it was the same drink or not was because of was scared at the time due to the cops(2officers) 2 of my co workers in tears, 3 cordinators and finally the co director of housing showed up. In the report they also said my face was red and my eyes were bloodshot. I have seasonal allergies and it was finals week I dont know anyone students eyes that don't get red during finals from lack of sleep.

    So I just got the trial waiver form. What do you guys think I should do? Do you think I got a case ? Thanks.

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    Jul 12, 2009 9:04 PM GMT
    What exactly is the punishment? Expulsion from the college? Expulsion from the housing?
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    Jul 12, 2009 9:43 PM GMT
    I don't understand what your job is and how it relates to being at your home and getting in trouble for drinking when you are over 21
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    Jul 12, 2009 9:53 PM GMT
    Did you fail the breathalyzer test? Did you make it clear that you have allergies and that you were genuinely sleep deprived?

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    Jul 12, 2009 9:53 PM GMT
    lilTanker saidI don't understand what your job is and how it relates to being at your home and getting in trouble for drinking when you are over 21


    I assume he's talking about the dorm. I think he might be an RA (Resident Advisor).

    I think you have a case. Go for it.
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    Jul 13, 2009 12:25 AM GMT
    They refused to breathalize me cause I was over 21. Sorry I did forget to mention I am a RA. Hopefully things will work out cause this is a series of unfortunate events.
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    Jul 13, 2009 12:27 AM GMT
    (1) I hope it works out
    (2) it sounds like they have no case against you
    (3) in future try not to put yourself in bizarro situations where having a sip of a drink suddenly becomes a HUGE DRAMA. Life has real problems. Avoid crap like this.
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    Jul 13, 2009 12:43 AM GMT
    (4) Shit happens. And sometimes you can't really avoid situations like this.
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    Jul 13, 2009 1:16 AM GMT
    Is it the sip from the drink that is getting you in trouble? Was the drink confirmed to you to have contained alcohol? And therefore, cuz you sipped from it, you are in trouble for drinking alcohol? I am not following.

    My advice just in general go in with an open, honest air about you. Not confrontal, but not nervous scared either. They cant do anything to you really. If they try, you can challenge them thru the university and legally. Having an honest, confident demeanor gets you a long way in life.
  • Webster666

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    Jul 13, 2009 1:23 AM GMT
    You absolutely do have a case.
    There must be someone who can represent you in this matter.
    DO NOT WAVE THE TRIAL.
  • danisnotstr8

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    Jul 13, 2009 1:46 AM GMT
    Is it a dry campus?

    And if so, and you were unaware that it was alcohol, it's entrapment.

    You're over 21. It's not illegal for you to drink.

    Fucking Nazis.
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    Jul 13, 2009 1:48 AM GMT
    I'll tell you that these collage 'trials' are a joke, I went to one for a friend, and they really don't care about evidence (or didn't at my school). There was zero evidence against my friend, and he had several witnesses who supported his position, and they still found him guilty. I put in a complaint about it about there being no evidence against him, and they said that the whole "Beyond reasonable doubt" thing is a misconception and only applies to few cases. My jaw still drops to the floor when I think of their response.

    Hopefully yours will go better.
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    Jul 13, 2009 1:51 AM GMT
    Caslon11000 saidIs it the sip from the drink that is getting you in trouble? Was the drink confirmed to you to have contained alcohol? And therefore, cuz you sipped from it, you are in trouble for drinking alcohol? I am not following.

    My advice just in general go in with an open, honest air about you. Not confrontal, but not nervous scared either. They cant do anything to you really. If they try, you can challenge them thru the university and legally. Having an honest, confident demeanor gets you a long way in life.


    YUP. And my point was avoid absurd "dry campus" situations in life, where something totally innocent is artificially made into a terrible crime.
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    Jul 13, 2009 1:51 AM GMT
    Oh, and to follow up, my friend put in a complaint with the board that regulated the colleges, and the school tried to 'bribe' him out of it by offering a reduced punishment. But my friend went through with it and got out of his entire punishment.
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    Jul 13, 2009 1:54 AM GMT
    danisnotstr8 saidIs it a dry campus?

    And if so, and you were unaware that it was alcohol, it's entrapment.

    You're over 21. It's not illegal for you to drink.



    Oh, but he is an RA. The rules change for RAs at my college... I'm not sure about his though.
  • danisnotstr8

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    Jul 13, 2009 1:57 AM GMT
    I agree with Caslon and Lostboy.

    However, I have a better idea.

    If they fed you alcohol without letting you know, SUE THEM for endangering your health. I would fucking SUE their PANTS OFF.

    WIN
  • Sirkit

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    Jul 13, 2009 1:59 AM GMT
    If it's anything like the residences at the U of A campus then you'll be fighting a loosing battle until you go outside the politics of the residence power structure. If your campus has ombudsmen use them and hope they can help you out. If that fails then perhaps an appeal to and equivalent of a VP Student Life?

    It's hard to give you direction since the web of power in every institution is slightly different and you need to know who the right people are. If you have any friends who work in the administration of the university (not student side but professional side) talk to them and see if there is any advice they can give you; they may know the backdoors of the institution and can direct you. The worst mistake you can make is to not appeal the decision, if you are innocent, and to stop talking about it if they find against you. Find as many people as you can who support you and continue to be a major pain in the Administrations ass and progress will happen. The last thing any admin wants to deal with is a publicity nightmare.
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    Jul 13, 2009 2:04 AM GMT
    Why would the cops refuse to test you just because you are over 21?

    Bizzaro
  • danisnotstr8

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    Jul 13, 2009 2:04 AM GMT
    man, i still don't understand the whole process here. was the alcohol given to you as a trap?
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    Jul 13, 2009 2:11 AM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidWhy would the cops refuse to test you just because you are over 21?

    Bizzaro

    Yeah, I would really run with that. If they thought you were drinking at the time, why didnt they do a breath test? I would definitely challenge them on that...quietly and with confidence, dont show fear, make it appear that you know you have them on this procedural fuck-up and if they pursue this you know you can go after them.

    You might want to do some "homework" on their procedures and anything else you can learn about these kinds of trials...like what is it that they can "convict" you on.
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    Jul 13, 2009 2:36 AM GMT
    Thanks heavens for those more mature days of the past. I am am not speaking of your maturity, but the times. Alcohol was not banned from campus. We were after all .... adults who were paying for a service rendered by the school.
  • westguy79

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    Jul 13, 2009 2:45 AM GMT
    I was an RA for three years and I would hope that you have a good enough relationship with your superiors that you could talk to them about the situation. It doen't seem like you did anything wrong, although I do know that rules for students and RA's vary greatly from public to private colleges. Seek out the ombudsman/ombudperson at your school or approach your director and get it resolved.

    Whatever happens, this is not the end of the world. There is a big world outside of college.

    Good luck!
  • lesric

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    Jul 13, 2009 4:26 AM GMT
    I was an RA and then an RD, so I have dealt with situations like this.

    If they want to pursue a trial for something that happened on the last day of the semester, go for it. What do you have to lose? You may not have a job next year, but you defended yourself.

    Were you "on duty" when this incident occured? If so, you might have messed up big time. If you weren't on duty and you're over 21, tell them to shove it. Even if you are supposed to be a role model for the residents, you have to have downtime.

    Do you think they might be just pulling you in to offer testimony about the other two girls? If so, go with the truth. Might those girls get in trouble? yes. Might it be the wake up call that they might need? Yes. Will you feel badly? Yes. It is the right thing to do, however.
  • coolarmydude

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    Jul 13, 2009 11:38 AM GMT
    This story doesn't add up. He's not telling us everything.

    Common sense would tell you that if someone happened to offer you a drink and you didn't solicit for it, you would ask them why and what's in it.
  • Latenight30

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    Jul 13, 2009 11:53 AM GMT
    Always Always Go to Court. It's your Right to defend yourself. Don't just blindly sign anything. If you go to court they have to work to proove what they say. Make them. If you took a sip of something from someone you know and trust thats what college is. Sounds like the old Disney Scam. Have a bartender offer a worker a drink and then they can fire that worker for drinking on the job.