HndsmKansan saidIf you have a problem with the functioning of your toilet, I'd like to hear what you'd do if the problem was the pipe that runs under your yard (no matter if you hook into your own septic system or the cities' system).
If you called for help there should we take away your "man" card?
I hope not! Well, at least, not in my case: when the toilets in my house backed up (and also brown sludgy stuff was coming up in the bathtubs!), I had no clue where the septic tank was nor where the cleanout pipes might be. I'd searched ahead of time just as a precaution, 'cause I'd bought this house newish, but the previous owner had no plans or information about where the builders had actually put the septic tank (not even a general location on the property) and I'd not been able to find any protruding cleanout pipes above ground in my searches around the almost 3 acres....) A sketched in tank location on a rolled up plan in the subdivision's Association records showed one possible location, but not proof positive.
So, I called in the plumbers - they had to use a roto-rooter on the roof down through a toilet vent in one bathroom, told me to listen for the cable churning sounds in the house and which direction out of the house they were going. I sort of located the sounds, followed them out of the house, across a front courtyard, under a courtyard wall, and out to the area next to my entry walkway -- still no cleanout pipes, but at least the plumbers now had an idea (sort of) of where to dig and explore for the pipe to the septic tank! Digging down 4 feet or so (and removing landscaping in the way) they came to the PVC pipe, had to cut into it and install cleanouts, and in enlarging the hole to work in to do this, they hit up against the side of the septic tank -- on the oppostie side of the entryway from what the sketch had shown, of course!
"Only" cost me $600... and there never was any indication of original cleanouts -- probably buried under the patio bricks by stupid workcrews...
No, I don't think I should have my man-card revoked --Plungers and short auger cables hadn't worked for me. I sure had never dealt with something like this before, even back in my old San Francisco two-story Victorian -- and it needed two professional plumber guys to actually locate and fix the stoppage (minor as it turned out to be, it was still a gross mess indoors on brick floors in my new house a couple of years ago and right before Thanksgiving holiday! )