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    Nov 26, 2007 3:46 PM GMT
    Dog In The Doorway- by Rumi

    This is how it is when your animal energies, the nafs dominate your soul

    You have a piece of fine linen that you're going to make into a coat to give to a friend, but someone else uses it to make a pair of pants The linen has no choice in the matter it must submit. Or, it's like someone breaks into your house and goes to the garden and plants thornbushes And ugly humiliation falls over the place.

    Or you've seen a nomad's dog lying at the tent entrance, with his head on the threshold and his eyes closed. Children pull his tail and touch his face, but he doesn't move. He loves the children's attention and stays humble within it.

    But if a stranger walks by, he'll spring up ferociously. Now what if that dog's owner were not able to control it?

    A poor dervish might appear: the dog storms. The dervish says, "I take refuge with God when the dog of arrogance attacks," and the owner has to say, "So do I! I'm helpless against this creature even in my own house!

    Just as you can't come close, I can't go out!"

    This is how animal energy becomes monstrous and ruins your life's freshness and beauty.

    Think of taking this dog out to hunt! You'd be the quarry.

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    Nov 26, 2007 8:19 PM GMT
    If you like Rumi take a look at Mirabai. She is starting to get some good translations into English.
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    Nov 30, 2007 2:22 AM GMT
    how can i dare to fix a thing which you created'' at the end of one of his poems iranian poet omar hayyam says this to god.
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    Nov 30, 2007 2:46 AM GMT
    I entered to this thread because I thought of the card game. You can imagine my confusion.
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    Nov 30, 2007 3:20 AM GMT
    I love Rumi! "Gone to the Unseen" is my favorite "Call of Love" is another. I love Hafiz even more. Daniel Ladinsky's translations in the compilation "I Heard God Laughing" are probably the best there are. Kabir is a great poet predating them both that I highly recommend as well.
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    Nov 30, 2007 3:49 AM GMT
    I like Coleman Barks' translations of Rumi. I went to Konya for the annual Mevlevi whirly-twirl about 7 years ago and his translations were even favored there.

    If you haven't read Andrew Harvey's work on Rumi, you might want to. To Harvey's reading, there is no doubt that Rumi's relationship with Shams was "gay." He goes on and on about this -- in "The Way of Passion," I believe. (Of course, I've also heard Harvey lives in Las Vegas and is a fanatical crossdresser, so he may be prejudiced in his viewpoint.icon_eek.gif )

    Most anything I knew before 9/11 about Islam was through Sufism and Rumi, along with Corbin's translations of the sufi master ibn Arabi's work. It was a shock to learn how different most of Islam is.
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    Nov 30, 2007 2:52 PM GMT
    "It was a shock to learn how different most of Islam is."

    My impression is that there are always huge differences between religions and their affiliated traditions of mysticism.
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    Dec 01, 2007 5:20 PM GMT
    make a search on youtube with these words 'post duasi' you will see a praying part of a mevlevi rite. the firt part of the pray is persian the second part is turkish.you can diffentiate the persian part.all the sentences end with RAA
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    Dec 01, 2007 6:24 PM GMT
    "My impression is that there are always huge differences between religions and their affiliated traditions of mysticism."

    That is true, Paradox. Even if you read St. John of the Cross or St. Teresa of Avila, it's hard to remember you are reading Catholic saints.
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    Dec 03, 2007 5:15 PM GMT
    or read some stuff related to early christian Gnosticism... head trip icon_eek.gif

    try the gospel of philip or things like that http://www.gnosis.org