Military guys - join the Canadian Forces

  • waterman

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    Jul 15, 2009 6:15 PM GMT
    Last week, a friend paraded out as a Naval Officer Cadet at HMCS Venture--the Canadian Naval Reserve Officers college in Victoria, BC.

    My friend and her husband are both in the navy, and very cool. She mentioned to me that that people entering the Forces are now asked if they have a problem with homosexuality.

    If they do, they are NOT welcome.

    Now that's a sea change, Mr. Obama.
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    Jul 15, 2009 6:27 PM GMT
    Funny how times change. In my day, anti-Vietnam protestors went to Canada from here in the US to AVOID military service. Could it be possible that US gays would now go there to be ALLOWED military service? I just shake my head. Will my country never get it right? icon_confused.gif
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    Jul 15, 2009 7:58 PM GMT
    I would gladly fight and die for Canada's efforts to invade the United States.

    Vive la révolution!/Long Live the Revolution!
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    Jul 15, 2009 9:28 PM GMT
    waterman saidLast week, a friend paraded out as a Naval Officer Cadet at HMCS Venture--the Canadian Naval Reserve Officers college in Victoria, BC.

    My friend and her husband are both in the navy, and very cool. She mentioned to me that that people entering the Forces are now asked if they have a problem with homosexuality.

    If they do, they are NOT welcome.

    Now that's a sea change, Mr. Obama.


    Ive always wanted to join the canadian armed forces i was really serious about joining the navy at one point althought if i had the choice i'd love be an air force pilot
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    Jul 16, 2009 3:40 AM GMT
    once again I find my self with Munchies and I will soooo happily watch his arse.. I mean I will sooo happily watch his back..

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    Jul 16, 2009 3:41 PM GMT
    lilTanker saidonce again I find my self with Munchies and I will soooo happily watch his arse.. I mean I will sooo happily watch his back..



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  • dionysus

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    Jul 16, 2009 4:29 PM GMT
    dont you have to be a canadian CITIZEN to join the armed forces in canada?
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    Jul 16, 2009 4:32 PM GMT
    jprichva saidWe'd been taken over by a coup, and being run by gangsters. Did the NATO treaty only mean we were to protect them? Or were they also obligated to step in to protect us?

    Legally, Congress had certified the results of the 2000 Electoral College, and Bush was sworn in by the Chief Justice of the United States, with the Congress in attendance. It therefore would be difficult for NATO to endorse the idea that a coup had taken place, even thought the voting and the counting were doubtlessly flawed, when the entire US power structure was accepting this outcome.

    Even Bill Clinton went through the ceremonial protocols to welcome a new President into the White House, and escort him to the Capitol for the inauguration. And Al Gore dropped his challenge once the Supreme Court ruled and the Florida results were accepted. On what basis could NATO have claimed a coup had taken place at that point?

    But back to Canada: I'm very fond of Canada, with the sole exception of the Québecois who come down here to Florida to trash the place and run wild, drive like maniacs and get tickets they simply ignore, and exercise a breathtaking level of rudeness to locals. I'm looking forward to my next trip up there, so I can return the favor. icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 16, 2009 4:38 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidI would gladly fight and die for Canada's efforts to invade the United States.

    Vive la révolution!/Long Live the Revolution!



    LOL ! This would be a perfect place for 'Vive Le Quebec Libre' although im not a seperatist ! lolicon_eek.gif
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    Jul 16, 2009 4:57 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    Red_Vespa said
    But back to Canada: I'm very fond of Canada, with the sole exception of the Quebecois who come down here to Florida to trash the place and run wild, drive like maniacs and get tickets they simply ignore, and exercise a breathtaking level of rudeness to locals. I'm looking forward to my next trip up there, so I can return the favor.

    I forgive them nearly everything except guys with vast tummies wearing speedos. Ugh.

    They had begun buying lots of Hollywood beach-front businesses in the 1970s, and I'd walk into some bars and find French being mostly spoken, as you'd also hear on the beach itself. I'd do OK with my own French for a while, until it came time to pay. For some reason I never could think quickly in spoken French numbers (or German for that matter, which is worse).

    So the bartender would see my puzzled look as I hesitated to think, and repeat it in English, blowing my cover. LOL! But at least those Canadian Speedos on the beach gave me a different kind of cover, allowing me to dare to wear them myself, and as a 147-pound 20-something I had the better claim to them. And damn, watching those Speedo baskets was lovely, with many guys really in proper shape. Good memories... icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 16, 2009 5:04 PM GMT


    "Page 1
    Canadian Forces (CF) policy states that in order to be eligible for enrolment into the Forces, applicants must hold
    Canadian citizenship. The only exception made to this policy is as follows:
    - are not Canadian citizens, but do hold Permanent Resident Status; and
    - possess specialized skills/qualifications the CF has need of and cannot fill with a Canadian citizen; and
    - do not pose a risk to any national interest; may only be enrolled into the Canadian Forces if permission is
    granted by the Commander of the Canadian Forces Recruiting Group (CFRG).
    As you do not currently hold Canadian citizenship you will have to be granted a Citizenship Waiver by the Commander of
    CFRG prior to starting any of the selection testing."
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    Jul 16, 2009 5:12 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    "Page 1
    Canadian Forces (CF) policy states that in order to be eligible for enrolment into the Forces, applicants must hold
    Canadian citizenship. The only exception made to this policy is as follows:
    - are not Canadian citizens, but do hold Permanent Resident Status [etc]

    The US military has a similar rule, which only applies to enlisted members. Commissioned Officers must be full US citizens, either Native or Naturalized.
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    Jul 16, 2009 5:33 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa said
    jprichva saidWe'd been taken over by a coup, and being run by gangsters. Did the NATO treaty only mean we were to protect them? Or were they also obligated to step in to protect us?



    But back to Canada: I'm very fond of Canada, with the sole exception of the Québecois who come down here to Florida to trash the place and run wild, drive like maniacs and get tickets they simply ignore, and exercise a breathtaking level of rudeness to locals. I'm looking forward to my next trip up there, so I can return the favor. icon_wink.gif


    Most Canadian's even think the Quebecois are dinks.
  • waterman

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    Jul 16, 2009 8:12 PM GMT
    caspervann saiddont you have to be a canadian CITIZEN to join the armed forces in canada?


    I'd have thought this was so for most countries, but it seems it depends... usually you take the Oath of Citizenship, then take another Oath of Allegiance (as the holder of a public office).

    But there are exceptions to every rule:

    ex. Sometimes other commonwealth country citizens join up, after being vetted by security services (ex. Brit ex-pats).

    ex. There were Canadians who served under US command in Vietnam but to my understanding never gave up Canadian citizenship.

    ex. French Foreign Legion accepts foreigners if they swear an oath to France.

    Maybe things have changed since 9/11, though?
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    Jul 16, 2009 8:29 PM GMT
    The American military recruits foreign citizens that can later obtain citizenship for serving. It's not standard practice but it happens quite a bit.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/26/world/americas/26iht-military.4020881.html
  • LifeByTheHorn

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    Jul 16, 2009 8:34 PM GMT
    " Oui, la invasion de L'États-Unis !! " Ok, I am ready to carry this poster. Let's do it .
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    Jul 16, 2009 8:45 PM GMT
    waterman saidMaybe things have changed since 9/11, though?

    As I stated above, the US allows enlistments of resident aliens, but not of commissioned officers. However, they must still take the standard US Military Oath of Enlistment, which I used to be honored to administer.

    "I (Name) do solemnly swear, that I will support and defend the Consitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear truth faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

    BTW, I wrote that from memory, since I hated to see Officers reading it from a paper. When I administered the oath, I looked the soldier (always a reenlistment) right in the eye, which also made for a better photograph, as most were career sergeants under my own command, with their family and friends present in a formal setting. It was a very solemn moment that deserved a little special treatment, and I made sure we did it with great dignity, pomp & circumstance.

    (BTW, some on my staff were very senior sergeants (E-8, E-9), and I would offer them the option of reenlistment by the Commanding General, a much greater honor. I was always touched very deeply when they chose me instead. On a couple of occasions I managed to have the General there, anyway)
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    Jul 16, 2009 9:30 PM GMT
    nothing against Canada or anything but

    NO!!! I'm A United States Marine & Marine Only...!!!!

    its also what i tell all my other friends who try to get me to Join another Branch of Military Besides the Marines.

    US all the way..even with all the goods and the bad.

    We might Get there slow but we will get there!!

    Semper Fi !!!!!!!
  • LifeByTheHorn

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    Jul 16, 2009 10:00 PM GMT
    As a Euro-American, I know also the fact that Canada is connected to Europe, through United Kingdom. The culture is more open to developments, progress in Europe, therefore they are way more likely to adapt their standards & cultural norms, as it is attested in their lifestyle. Even the most European city of all North America is Québec, which is very well known by its fame.

    Canadian culture were made fun of by Americans for ages & put down constantly, but now roles are changed. It is time for Canadians to make fun of American culture & be sarcastic about it, since there is a major gap between the democratic standards of these two cultures. They are also being one of the very few countries in the world that legalized GAY MARRIAGE .

    Yes, Canada, now you are the democratic guru of whole North America & US has to get off its high horse & come to its senses




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    Jul 16, 2009 11:28 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie said
    lilTanker saidonce again I find my self with Munchies and I will soooo happily watch his arse.. I mean I will sooo happily watch his back..



    With you at my backside, I mean side, we can rule the world!

    indeed

    or at least our fox hole!
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    LOL LifeByTheHorn, "It is time for Canadians to make fun of American culture & be sarcastic about it, since there is a major gap between the democratic standards of these two cultures. They are also being one of the very few countries in the world that legalized GAY MARRIAGE ."


    ...that's not very Canadian; we'd prefer they just join us instead. Heheh, an invitation works better than slap. icon_wink.gif

  • LifeByTheHorn

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    Jul 17, 2009 6:08 AM GMT
    meninlove said

    LOL LifeByTheHorn, "It is time for Canadians to make fun of American culture & be sarcastic about it, since there is a major gap between the democratic standards of these two cultures. They are also being one of the very few countries in the world that legalized GAY MARRIAGE ."


    ...that's not very Canadian; we'd prefer they just join us instead. Heheh, an invitation works better than slap. icon_wink.gif



    Why do you have to be so civilized to deal with Americans? We understood the European standards, but combined with Tibetan patience & hospitality. This would draw Americans utterly NUTS icon_lol.gif
  • LifeByTheHorn

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    Jul 17, 2009 6:11 AM GMT
    jprichva said
    LifeByTheHorn said It is time for Canadians to make fun of American culture & be sarcastic about it, since there is a major gap between the democratic standards of these two cultures.

    Oh like they don't snicker about us already? This is new? Mind you, there's lots to laugh at here.


    Still very subtle to fill a tea spoon icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 17, 2009 6:27 AM GMT


    Hey LifeByTheHorn!

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  • LifeByTheHorn

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    Jul 17, 2009 6:53 AM GMT
    meninlove said

    Hey LifeByTheHorn!

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    Hey, my friend.

    Cheers,