Everyone had weight-loss surgery

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    Jul 15, 2009 6:30 PM GMT
    I went to a weight-loss camp when I was a kid. I went for 3 summers. Each summer the same group of kids were there, mostly. We have all recently hooked up again on Facebook. Just about everyone I knew had surgery. They all lost 100+ pounds and say it's the best thing they ever did.

    This got me to thinking. The same people who trash fat people all the time will then talk about "lifestyle changes". What a joke!
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    Jul 16, 2009 7:30 PM GMT
    So, when are you having the surgery?
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    Jul 16, 2009 7:41 PM GMT
    Quit pissing and moaning, and go do it then.

    If you can't control your digits, and it's what you view as your only alternative, then, GO DO IT.

    Whine, whine, whine, is what you've done for TWO YEARS now.

    Shut the fuck up and go take care of yourself.
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    Jul 16, 2009 8:06 PM GMT
    Really? You just connected with a bunch of guys you haven't seen since fat kid camp and most of them had surgery just now as you yourself are blowing a lot of hot air about the surgery? How convenient. Well, that settles it everyone. Anecdote > Data!

    Have you even seen a doctor about getting this surgery? Go get it since it is such a silver bullet.
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    Jul 16, 2009 8:28 PM GMT
    It's your choice, but for fuck's sake, shit or get off the pot already.
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    Jul 16, 2009 8:38 PM GMT
    McGay!
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    You make our day!

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    Jul 16, 2009 8:40 PM GMT
    I'm gonna cook dinner for you one day, Chucky. It'll be like the best sex you ever had.
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    Jul 16, 2009 8:55 PM GMT
    OnTheWayToMe saidI went to a weight-loss camp when I was a kid. I went for 3 summers. Each summer the same group of kids were there, mostly. We have all recently hooked up again on Facebook. Just about everyone I knew had surgery. They all lost 100+ pounds and say it's the best thing they ever did.

    This got me to thinking. The same people who trash fat people all the time will then talk about "lifestyle changes". What a joke!


    I'm answering this only because I have met similar kids

    There's a simple explanation let me break it down for you

    The kids were at fat camp because it is a responsible parent's last resort to help their kids, who maybe through there mistakes in parenting and their poor example, maybe through society and the education system or maybe through statistical chance ended up in the condition they did.

    The aim of camp, is to build up kids self esteem, educate and correct misinformed kids and bring them to face their personal responsibility in both their weight problems and lives.

    For the majority of the kids who succeed. these individuals move on with their lives, once one has moved on from there weight problem no one wants to dwell on it, they gain self esteem, diverge interests, make friends, build careers and relationships.

    But now cold hard facts,

    I believe you are lying because weight management camps...are accountable, competitive businesses they are required to publish the % success and failure...Especially since other businesses (insurance and HMOs) are subsiding the cost in a lot of cases

    It seems to you like it was the same kids...and all of them need surgery because

    You are a loser, who habitually dwells with people that offer you sympathy and compassion and who validate you and feed you the information you want to hear, so you can wallow in you repeated failure as a group. Heard the phrase...Misery seeks company... it's true

    Where as anyone who has anything helpful to contribute from their experience and success in getting their weight under control has realized that group of people is toxic to their own success and cut them off.
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    Jul 16, 2009 9:05 PM GMT

    Go for it. You deserve a happy ending.


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    Jul 16, 2009 9:05 PM GMT
    Wow, it really felt good to hit the "Ignore His Posts" button.
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    Jul 16, 2009 9:08 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidQuit pissing and moaning, and go do it then.

    If you can't control your digits, and it's what you view as your only alternative, then, GO DO IT.

    Whine, whine, whine, is what you've done for TWO YEARS now.

    Shut the fuck up and go take care of yourself.


    Agreed.
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    Jul 16, 2009 9:40 PM GMT
    You guys just keep giving him what he wants and that is attention.
    Just stop replying and saying anything on his forums and he will quit moaning and whining sooner or later.

    -M
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    Jul 16, 2009 10:27 PM GMT

    He's in pain and these threads are a cry for help, albeit a repetitive cry.
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    Jul 16, 2009 10:29 PM GMT
    GuiltyGear said
    He's in pain and these threads are a cry for help, albeit a repetitive cry.


    A cry for attention.
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    Jul 16, 2009 11:00 PM GMT
    Justmi saidYou guys just keep giving him what he wants and that is attention.
    Just stop replying and saying anything on his forums and he will quit moaning and whining sooner or later.

    -M


    Eh, I keep calling him out on his BS. You are right Justmi. One of the rules of participating in a forum is Don't Feed the Trolls. I just feel bad. I was hoping my first touch of the Ignore His Posts button would be something special.
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    Jul 16, 2009 11:31 PM GMT
    I was the kid in grade school that was over-weight. When I hit my teens I discovered bycycling. That took all of the excess weight off. In my early 20's, I lived in a ski area, and that bulked me up (6'2" and 200 lbs. of solid muscle), and I kinda lost that due to work over the years. I started taking the bus to work 3 years ago. I had to walk 3 blocks each way to do it though.

    Guess what?!!! Walking more than 6 blocks a day helped me drop the little extra weight that I had!!! I went from a 36 inch waist back down to a 32 inch waist!!!

    I love walking or biking to where I need to go, and will continue to do so. I will even bike to go work out at my gym when I can.

    I also find myself eating MUCH healthier since I've been unemployed this summer. I find it far easier to get my veggies every meal now. I've even joined a new gym that's close to me and will be available once I find a new job.

    Try doing something healthy for yourself instead of trying to make others feel sorry for you!!!
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    Jul 16, 2009 11:34 PM GMT
    So let me see if I get this... if you have gastric bypass surgery, you shrink your stomach's ability to consume large amounts of food. And since you eat less and less often, you lose weight. Correct? Hmm... what if you didn't have the surgery and actually just consumed the amount of food you would have eaten had you had and spent the money from the surgery on something important... say, a gym membership to help keep off those pounds? Also, guess what! Being thin doesn't make you healthy. Exercising and eating right does.
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    Jul 16, 2009 11:40 PM GMT

    He lacks that something that allows people to portion control and commit to daily exercise. (uuurrrggghhh, hurt my fingers to type that).

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    Jul 16, 2009 11:43 PM GMT
    GuiltyGear said
    He lacks that something that allows people to portion control and commit to daily exercise. (uuurrrggghhh, hurt my fingers to type that).



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    Jul 16, 2009 11:49 PM GMT
    The theory being that they'll (fat asses) will feel fuller, sooner. The problem is they stretch even that small part of the stomach out that's pinched off, and end up even heavier than when they started. Surgery often fails in its long term outcome.

    Lots of things at work. Low esteem. Food as an addiction / medication. Laziness. No discipline. Self-destructive behavior. An inability to satiate properly. Bad parenting. It fuels itself in a vicious circle.

    Ever go to a Wally World and watch all the folks to lazy to even walk the parking lot? It's pathetic.

    In about 3% of the morbidly obese there's a virus that doesn't seem to show up in regular people. They're not quite sure whether isn't from the obesity, or causes it, and it's under study, but, in general, it's bad behavior, that leads to more bad behavior. If you have trouble walking across the parking lot, going to a gym is a very frightening to a fat ass.

    The solution isn't just education (like with tobacco), but, also making it unacceptable (like with tobacco).

    Our special person here, has more than a few factors at work. He attacks the very folks who are most able to help him. He needs a professional help, and almost anyone should be able to see that.

    At some point, you have to stop blaming your parents, genes, skin color, environment, culture, or whatever your excuse, and step up, and say "I'm going to change." Many of the most wealthy folks in the world come from very poor backgrounds. They wanted it more. None of us had The Cleavers for family, and a grown adult has to take personal responsibility, even if they're an addict, at some point, in order to effect a positive long term outcome.

    I'm short; I deal with it.

    With like Munching (here), or flex89 (here), have a chronic disease, and they deal with eat as effectively as they can for a positive long term outcome. OnTheWayToMe differs in that he continues to attack healthy folks, and tries to rationalize, to the healthy folks, why he's such a train wreck. I assure you, OnTheWayToMe, has much deeper issues than just over eating. Getting to the bottom of those, in a clinical environment, is almost certainly germane.
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    Jul 16, 2009 11:51 PM GMT
    GuiltyGear said
    He lacks that something that allows people to portion control and commit to daily exercise. (uuurrrggghhh, hurt my fingers to type that).



    Sounds like someone that doesn't want to get in shape.
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    Jul 16, 2009 11:53 PM GMT
    He has been told this many many times already.
    Why do you guys keep wasting your time and feeding his cry for attention?
    I have issues and everyone has issues, but we don't cry about the same thing on every single forum we make.
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    Jul 17, 2009 1:44 AM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidReally? You just connected with a bunch of guys you haven't seen since fat kid camp and most of them had surgery just now as you yourself are blowing a lot of hot air about the surgery? How convenient. Well, that settles it everyone. Anecdote > Data!

    Have you even seen a doctor about getting this surgery? Go get it since it is such a silver bullet.


    The camp itself is pretty famous and has a Facebook page. There's a forum there where many of the people I knew talked about their experience with the surgery.
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    Jul 17, 2009 1:56 AM GMT
    Let's see. You all tell him all the things he should and shouldn't do.

    And you tell each other to stop responding to his threads. But apparently, you all can't do that simple thing.

    I think it is pathetic that he is harangued, but people cant stop posting to his threads which should be so easy, right?. Hypocrisy isn't just for Repuglican morality apparently.

    Personally, I think dieting is one of the hardest thing to do in life....your whole body and brain is working against you. Working out and building muscle is a cake walk compared to dieting.
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    Jul 17, 2009 2:27 AM GMT
    You never should be dieting. There are two very easy ways to lose and maintain weight:

    1) Read the labels on all food items and prefer the ones that are closest to their natural form. No additives (sugar, oils, salt. etc.) or processing (frying, baking, etc.). Naturally, fresh fruits and vegetables are far better than any packaged items. If you follow this rule, calories mean very little. Eating an apple and eating a candy bar with the same caloric value are NOT the same.

    2) Don't buy anything that doesn't fit into item 1's description. If it's in the house, you're going to eat it eventually. The easiest way to "diet" is to control yourself for just one hour per week, while food shopping.