Asian twink who need help from other fit jocks...

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    Jul 19, 2009 10:28 PM GMT
    I always tell myself to start working out immediately. Yet I have to many problems that I don't know how to tackle:

    - I am a full time international college student and live by myself.
    - I also work 20 hours/week
    - I am depressed due to loneliness and being in the closet.
    - I have very low self-esteem and constantly worry about how I look in people's view.
    - I am not a very patient person and often set unrealistic goal
    - For health issues :
    + I have been a twink all my life, had low appetite, rarely gone to the gym and had very weak immunity.
    + After workout I am always exhausted and my body's so sore that I hesitate to continue the plan.
    + I am not fond of American food, mainly because I think there's too many sweet food.
    + I don't like to drink milk and nutrition drinks or food and haven't found a way to change this.
    So far that's all I can think of. I am too confused to know where to start first. Should I take medication for depression (I will know if I have to next week)? How can I get better with my appetite, particularly with milk and always full of energy. What's the best solution to get rid of this exhaustion and soreness after working out ( I have been enjoyed playing racquetball and it's killing me)? I know this is somehow too many question and issue. But I will appreciate any advice you can give me. Thanks
  • UFJocknerd

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    Jul 20, 2009 12:52 AM GMT
    namvu99 said I always tell myself to start working out immediately. Yet I have to many problems that I don't know how to tackle:

    - I am a full time international college student and live by myself.
    - I also work 20 hours/week
    - I am depressed due to loneliness and being in the closet.
    - I have very low self-esteem and constantly worry about how I look in people's view.
    - I am not a very patient person and often set unrealistic goal
    - For health issues :
    + I have been a twink all my life, had low appetite, rarely gone to the gym and had very weak immunity.
    + After workout I am always exhausted and my body's so sore that I hesitate to continue the plan.
    + I am not fond of American food, mainly because I think there's too many sweet food.
    + I don't like to drink milk and nutrition drinks or food and haven't found a way to change this.
    So far that's all I can think of. I am too confused to know where to start first. Should I take medication for depression (I will know if I have to next week)? How can I get better with my appetite, particularly with milk and always full of energy. What's the best solution to get rid of this exhaustion and soreness after working out ( I have been enjoyed playing racquetball and it's killing me)? I know this is somehow too many question and issue. But I will appreciate any advice you can give me. Thanks


    Your college should have a student counseling center. Go there. You seem to be reporting adjustment issues and maybe depressive symptoms, maybe body image issues if you're really concerned with how you look to others; counseling can help with attitude and behavior changes that can get you functioning better. Same goes for the exercise, too, really; does the college have free fitness consultations? Many do. But, while working out is a good idea for mental health, it might be less so if you're constantly getting down on yourself for how you look compared to the other guys there.

    Go to the counseling center. :-)
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    Jul 20, 2009 11:25 PM GMT
    Thanks UFjocknerd:

    I did go to counseling center last week. And that's only the diagnosis session, no suggestion has been made so far except they said group session will fit me best because it seems I have communication issue. I also realize that the main motivation I doing this is that I just want to get myself in a better form and health, and the self-image thing has been ignored. So, as far as I know I have good motivation to work out and eat healthy.

    I guess I just bombarded you guys with too many things which seem to be so confusing, so I want to apology for that. I want to narrow my concern into 2 things: eating and reducing muscle sore after work out. I want to know if there is any kind of vitamin pills that I should take to make me more open and enjoy/or substitute weight-gaining food that I quite dislike right now (milk, nutrition food and drink..). What about boosting my appetite, do you have any suggestion? Also I asked my mom about pills for muscle sore. She said there's such thing but is only recommended for extreme cramp. Like UFjocknerd said, I should go to Fitness center to ask about this. And I will, but I also want to have your opinions too. Sometimes the best advice came from the people who have the same problem. Every advice is always welcome!icon_biggrin.gifRESIZED TEXT GOES HERE
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    Jul 21, 2009 12:24 AM GMT
    I think many people find muscle soreness worst in their early days of working out. As your body gets stronger and more used to it, you'll feel less soreness, although you'll still get some soreness sometimes. Sometimes you may still get a lot of it, but you'll be pretty used to it by then.

    If you're having too much trouble with soreness every time you try to get started, it may be that you're simply trying to do too much at first. Start with short, simple workouts. Then, bit by bit, you can increase how much you do. Perhaps you shouldn't even try doing any of your sets to failure at first. Just get your body used to lifting weights.
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    Jul 21, 2009 5:25 AM GMT
    I don't know a lot about training yet, so the other guys will have better advice on that.

    However, I come from a similar background of being scrawny and having trouble eating enough. With everything going on in your head, I think a complicated plan is going to be tough to jump into. I would always get a sense of urgency about getting in better shape and then take on too much at once.

    Finding something I could do consistently and not miss was the best thing for me psychologically. I has started to change my head into seeing myself as an athletic person. I would recommend skipping rope 10 minutes per day ever day or every other day (depending on if your exhaustion is more than what's usual). It's a killer at first, but improvement over time is noticeable enough to start feeling good about yourself quickly. I've also heard that 10 minutes of skipping rope is equal to 20-30 minutes of running. Not sure how accurate that is, but I believe it. I also think improving your heart and constitution will be the best start to taking on other things. To make it through the 10 minutes, I just find 3-4 high tempo songs I like a whole lot on blast them. By the time the songs are over, I'm done and it goes faster. Not sure if you're the same, but I've learned that skinny guys do poorly psychologically if we don't get abundant energy out regularly. It may not seem like you have it now, but unless you have a real medical reason for exhuastion you'll find that you have way more than you realized after a few weeks of consistent cardio. I eventually started out-sprinting the big guys at my gym during conditioning and it was a good feeling.

    Another though, it took me a while to get over being skinny. I used to hate it and want to be bigger. I think you naturally get more comfortable with yourself through your 20s anyway, but I've become way happier exercising as I've aimed for fit and toned slim guy instead of just trying to bulk up.

    One last thought. In college, I was too shy to ask people to help train me since I saw myself as so weak. When I did find friends to train with, they were sometimes other dissatisfied people that didn't know much about exercise. I should have been more bold in asking guys who were experienced in training to help me out. If you do, don't pitch it as a pity thing though, just be confident about the fact that you don't know how to get in shape yet, you want help and you're willing to work. Not sure what your skills are, but you may trade academic help or paper typing to a jock. Or, you may just save up $50 and put a flyer up for a month of help from another student. That's not enough money to hire a trainer, but it could be a lot for a student.
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    Jul 21, 2009 5:36 AM GMT
    the soreness goes away after a couple weeks of training. I personally always felt it made me feel like I was progressing. As far as protein drinks, they aren't meant to be "enjoyed" or taste like a milkshake, just drink it quickly if its too bad. You'll get used to the taste. If you don't like the sweet food, go for the salty food. There are so many excuses you can make for not working out or not eating right, but in the end its all in your head.
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    Jul 21, 2009 5:42 AM GMT
    namvu99 said
    + I am not fond of American food, mainly because I think there's too many sweet food.
    + I don't like to drink milk and nutrition drinks or food and haven't found a way to change this.


    I'm not sure why you think you need to eat American food if you're training or why you think you need to eat foods you find too sweet.

    Also, you don't need to drink milk either if you don't like it. Many people have trouble drinking milk because of the lactose.

    You probably need to eat more than you're eating now if you train with weights regularly. You probably need to eat more protein in particular. But you don't need to eat American food in order to do that.
  • training_guy

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    Jul 21, 2009 6:49 AM GMT
    I would ask oe of th instructors at your gym to design you a basic work out plan that you can develop with time. I've found that to many gym instructors don't have a clue but surely they can come up with something.

    Also the more you exercise the more you will build up an appetite & exercise is very beneficial for the immune system,

    As for "American food" surely you can buy some fresh fish or meat and have a few veggies & spuds with it!!!!!!

    Think positive to hell with your list of problems and just get on with it, it's your body, your life, you tell it what to do no?
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    Jul 21, 2009 8:13 AM GMT
    I sympathize on the food. I'm in Asia right now and while it seems much healther, the portions are smaller, veggies are crazy expensive, and figuring out how to cook rice and noodles is a bitch. Not to mention the fridge holds about a day and a half of food. We should trade places.

  • May 06, 2011 2:59 AM GMT
    My friend, I cannot speak on behalf of medical/psychiatric, however I have been going through some rough changes. I was not depressed, and honestly I find depression and anti depressants only numbs others feelings to the world. Try Psychotherapy, if your school cannot help you, then maybe there are others who they can refer you too.