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Majority Straight men have Gay sex?
Jul 20, 2009 2:17 PM GMT
Interesting facts about Straight men have Gay sex! According to WebMD health website or scientist say, 70% of those straight-identified men having sex with men are married. 10% of all married men in this survey report same-sex behavior during the past year. This means majority of men are gay?

source - Many Straight Men Have Gay Sex
Jul 20, 2009 2:24 PM GMT


"70% of those straight-identified men having sex with men are married. 10% of all married men in this survey report same-sex behavior during the past year. This means majority of men are gay?"

Nope. It's saying that 10% of all married men in the survey had same sex in the last year.

It says that of all the straight men saying they had same sex, 70% of that group who said they did were also married. NOT 70% of straight men have same sex.

GQjock Posts: 6531
Jul 20, 2009 2:38 PM GMT
Not necessarily ....
Most sex therapists and psychologists know that sexual preference is not black and white
It follows a bell curve where most of us prefer one or the other but not exclusively
so most men do have homoerotic feelings that they deny
and these feelings are what generate most cases of homophobia

rnch Posts: 1521
Jul 20, 2009 2:39 PM GMT
perhaps it means married guys like getting something strange on the side?
Jul 20, 2009 2:42 PM GMT
meninlove, it is a bit confusing... thank you for correcting me :-) I guess... lol
Jul 20, 2009 2:43 PM GMT


Here: the first line of the article, "Sept. 18, 2006 -- Nearly one in 10 men who say they're straight have sex only with other men, a New York City survey finds."
Jul 20, 2009 3:21 PM GMT
These numbers don't surprise me. I have often surmised at what the true not completely straight stat would be if everyone was honest. My guess is that openly gay/bi-identified men range from as little as 2% in conservative areas to 5% to 10% in more liberal areas with 5% possibly being the national average. I figured another 10% to 15% identify as straight, curious or questioning but have sex more than just once with men. Then I figure another 20% of men or so may have experimented once and decided it wasn't for them. These guys I would imagine satisfy their curiosity and move on.

I came to this conclusion after reading about several surveys both the studies considered legitimate by academics and the ones that were "explained away". Door to door surveys, not surprisingly, produce the lowest non-hetero percentage, followed by telephone interviews, while the internet polls come out the highest. What I found interesting albeit frustrating was how the press would always dismiss the higher sexuality numbers by saying the survey was flawed while accepting all the other findings of the survey. In one such article they said it was because gay and bi men were more likely to use the internet than heterosexual men! To me it is pretty obvious that the more anonymous the survey participants are the higher the numbers.

Another factor to a society's openness to sex in general and experimentation specifically. The swinger community can be quite homophobic and yet many men will experiment with other men in group sex. I don't believe sexual open societies are "more gay" but rather the citizens are more likely to experiment. If homosexuality were not taboo you would probably find a lot more people were bi or curious.

At the other extreme are societies that lock their women up such as the Taliban. I read an article in which a journalist was able to find that many heterosexual men were having sex with boys. On imam went so far as to say that these reports were exaggerated and that he would no as these men confess to him. "It is not 90% as some think but less than 50% of the men engaging in this behavior." he was quoted as saying.
wrestlervic Posts: 1775
Jul 20, 2009 3:42 PM GMT
All men are gay, I mean look at us, we're hot.
Ghen Posts: 1293
Jul 20, 2009 4:00 PM GMT
wrestlervic saidAll men are gay, I mean look at us, we're hot.


Amen!

Sing it, sistah!
Jul 20, 2009 9:39 PM GMT
I myself are not going to accept for one moment the majority of men are bisexual.

Straight men don't have gay sex, bisexual men do, and they are neither straight or gay; thus bi, 1+ 1 =2 sexuality's.

I do accept a large amount a bisexual men do hide behind a wife and kids, and then someday when they feel strong enough to come out about their double life, and want to abandon their families and go and stand under the banner of gay; yet they are still bisexual. For a time they may of appeared to be straight, but never were, and never will be gay, and that why under the GLB thing, they have their own label.

Not having a go at bisexuals, as I've had a sexual relationship with a number of em. I just don't accept them as being gay, as they are bi.

I also over my life have been blessed to of had some wonderful straight mates, and when they tell me they have sever had a sexual thought for another man I 100% belive them. Just as I have never has a sexual though for a female, or wanted too play in a vagina; yuk.

So I'm sorry but not for one moment am I going to accept, the majoriy of men are bisexual.
hockeynick79 Posts: 298
Jul 20, 2009 9:48 PM GMT

EVERYBODY'S GAY?!

Jul 20, 2009 9:50 PM GMT
Night of the Living Gay
redheadguy Posts: 3092
Jul 20, 2009 9:51 PM GMT
I once saw a bisexual unicorn...
figodz Posts: 1
Jul 20, 2009 9:54 PM GMT
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hello guys,
I want just say that the child discovers sex youngest between 5-6 years and in the majority of time the 1st experience is practiced with a boy: a neighbor, a brother, a cousin,a friend ....( not sexual agression) therefore men practiced in less one time in their life the sex with a man,, those that likes always connected remainder it is a question of the adolescence (21ANS). And those that finds the love with a girl are being BI or 100% striaght, ,, a lot of cases those that have an experience in their adolescence this convert day to the slow one tomorrow.
I hope that I am well understood thank you all
robbievienna Posts: 47
Jul 20, 2009 9:54 PM GMT
sxydrkhair said10% of all married men in this survey report same-sex behavior during the past year. This means majority of men are gay?


I haven't read the article yet; do they include men committed in same-sex marriages as well as men committed in different-sex marriage? (yah, I refuse to say "opposite sex"; there are more than just two mutually-exclusive options)
Jul 20, 2009 9:54 PM GMT
Sexual orientation doesn't exist.
LifeByTheHorn Posts: 121
Jul 20, 2009 10:07 PM GMT
Lo & Behold... In ancient times for millenia, like in Hellenistic & Roman times, bisexuality continued for a long time after that and was pretty much the norm in the world. Oh, YES!!!! Still in some tribes in the world this is practiced in different ways.

Abrahamic religions, like Judaism, Christianity, Islam razed this out of the face of the earth mostly. These synthetic religions literally erased the natural way of sexuality of those olden days by extreme fear; going to hell, execution, torture & various brutally creative techniques that came up with. This has long historically documented for ages. They thought it was not supporting procreation, but that was total distortion of human population rise for thousands of years prior to that
texasgymguy Posts: 2
Jul 20, 2009 10:12 PM GMT
Someone years ago told me that women bond emotionally and men bond sexually. I know I've had encounters with straight men before, so I've found that saying to be accurate.
txsin Posts: 33
Jul 20, 2009 10:14 PM GMT
Pinny saidSexual orientation doesn't exist.


true, I don't know how many times I've heard the phrase...."it's not gay, it's just two guys gettin off"....well whatever made them feel better I guess...
Jul 20, 2009 10:16 PM GMT
I agree with Pinny. If the opportunity arises and someone is attracted to another person they'll go for it. Almost all of my friends from college, both male and female, had some sort of same sex experience.

I think a lot more people are experimenting. Why not?! Interesting findings though.
Jul 20, 2009 10:24 PM GMT
Nah all it means is that most people in society today like to label, and put people in boxes.

Men being intimate with other men is nothing new, its been going on since men have been around, and back in the early days there were no such labels as we place on so many today.

Many men are afraid to express the natural emotions to want to be close with another man, because they are afraid of getting hit with the gay label, and all that goes along with it, which doesn't represent them at all.

As for sexual stuff, kissing, and doing the whole frot thing doesn't make you gay. And well there are straight men out there who enjoy doing anal to other men, particularly other straight men, because of the whole domination feeling they get from it. And well some men out there enjoy being dominated by other men. I don't equate anal sex with gay, cause there are so many gay men who don't like it, or do it.
Jul 20, 2009 10:30 PM GMT
LifeByTheHorn saidLo & Behold... In ancient times for millenia, like in Hellenistic & Roman times, bisexuality continued for a long time after that and was pretty much the norm in the world. Oh, YES!!!! Still in some tribes in the world this is practiced in different ways.

Yes but this is anachronistic. While you statement as a whole is correct we cannot place modern (post-19th cent) concepts (sexuality) on pre-modern times. It is best to look at Ancient Greece as a society that embraced itself as sexual beings with no ties meaning men were only obligated to women (and vice-versa) through the obligation to produce progeny. While it is true some women became jealous of their husbands male-lovers, there was nothing wrong with the action. The idea of male-female "couple" life-long love just didn't mesh in earlier societies. They reflected the animal kingdom's "pact" or "herd" lifestyle.

Bisexuality
Heterosexuality
Homosexuality

are all inventions of the late 19th century psychological craze to associate a clinical disease with people who engaged in "chronic" sexual activities.

You are 100% right with your statement. Somewhere in the late Middle Ages society shifted its value into male-female couples but I believe it is too simple to blame the Church. It is 100% possible that they are solely responsible for propagating the orthodoxy of heterosexuality, but there has to be more.

For more about the craziness that is sexuality try

L'invention de la culture hetérosexuelle by Louis-George Tin (no English available yet but I am working on that).

and Katz's Invention of heterosexuality.
LifeByTheHorn Posts: 121
Jul 21, 2009 5:13 AM GMT
Pinny said
LifeByTheHorn saidLo & Behold... In ancient times for millenia, like in Hellenistic & Roman times, bisexuality continued for a long time after that and was pretty much the norm in the world. Oh, YES!!!! Still in some tribes in the world this is practiced in different ways.

Yes but this is anachronistic. While you statement as a whole is correct we cannot place modern (post-19th cent) concepts (sexuality) on pre-modern times. It is best to look at Ancient Greece as a society that embraced itself as sexual beings with no ties meaning men were only obligated to women (and vice-versa) through the obligation to produce progeny. While it is true some women became jealous of their husbands male-lovers, there was nothing wrong with the action. The idea of male-female "couple" life-long love just didn't mesh in earlier societies. They reflected the animal kingdom's "pact" or "herd" lifestyle.

Bisexuality
Heterosexuality
Homosexuality

are all inventions of the late 19th century psychological craze to associate a clinical disease with people who engaged in "chronic" sexual activities.

You are 100% right with your statement. Somewhere in the late Middle Ages society shifted its value into male-female couples but I believe it is too simple to blame the Church. It is 100% possible that they are solely responsible for propagating the orthodoxy of heterosexuality, but there has to be more.

For more about the craziness that is sexuality try

L'invention de la culture hetérosexuelle by Louis-George Tin (no English available yet but I am working on that).

and Katz's Invention of heterosexuality.



You can also try David Moxon's " Human Relations " that I would fervently suggest with among others . Those would help as well, since we have similar, but subtle difference in our perspective, so you would see the bigger picture, less anachronistic approach to understand the development of the sexuality in today's human populations

Many authors, unfortunately do take present sexual values of societies , instead of researching the whole historical phases of sexuality. That is a major error in their part & shows their quick fix to the questions, but not historically scientific capacity.

It is not only dogmatic values of the Christian church, but also the long lost sisters of the schools of Judaic temples & Islamic mosques had promoted exclusively male to female sexual relationships.

So the severe interruption of the evolution of sexuality by taboo instilling religious institutions is very evident, therefore talking about the independent development is out of the question.




LifeByTheHorn Posts: 121
Jul 21, 2009 5:14 AM GMT
You are referring to animal kingdom, as if lifelong relationships were something, just developed exclusively in human relations. Oh, what a glorious concept that only Homo Sapiens figured this out. That makes them very evolved.

In Procellariformes ( Albatross family),in Anseriformes (geese,swans,etc) in Corvidae (crows, ravens, etc), in Psittariformes (parrot family), the lifelong relationships & in many other animal species are mostly very exclusive. Does that mean all these have the same brain capacity as humans?

Therefore I would also recommend you;

" Social Intelligence "

By Nathan Emery, Nicola Clayton, Christopher D. Frith
Dragoonxi Posts: 567
Jul 21, 2009 5:31 AM GMT
sxydrkhair saidInteresting facts about Straight men have Gay sex! According to WebMD health website or scientist say, 70% of those straight-identified men having sex with men are married. 10% of all married men in this survey report same-sex behavior during the past year. This means majority of men are gay?

source - Many Straight Men Have Gay Sex



No, it doesn't mean these men are gay. It means they are bisexual to some degree.

For more on the degrees of sexual attraction you should look up the work of Alfred Kinsey and the scale he made. http://tinyurl.com/Kinsey-Scale
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