"Straight-Acting"

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    Jul 24, 2009 12:05 PM GMT
    Ok, so I started a new job yesterday: (the oh-so-CV-boosting) flyer-boy for g-a-y (the club in london); times are hard, don't knock 30 pounds for 3 1/2 hours work.
    Where I stand out, compared to the other members of the 30 strong legion of strapped for cash young gay guys, is that, despite appearances, I tend not to act like a fairy. This prompted my "partner" to launch into a discussion of how straight-acting I am. I promptly corrected this misconception - I'm merely masculine. I then went on to try and get him to stop using the term "straight-acting". To no avail. Much to my disappointment, I was unable to adequately describe the negative connotations that straight acting implies.

    So, fellow rj'ers, I beg you to discuss just why using "straight-acting" is wrong, annoying, and naive, and to arm me with adequate ammunition to blow my annoying co-worker's narrow minded vocabulary out of the water.

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    Jul 24, 2009 12:13 PM GMT
    Just kiss him in the street. If he´s hot slap his arse.

    That should shut him up.
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    Jul 24, 2009 12:17 PM GMT
    he's fugly.
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    Jul 24, 2009 12:21 PM GMT
    Hit up Kirk......he dresses up as an asian drag queen and runs round Soho molesting people, throwing his flyers in cab windows and pretending not to speak English icon_lol.gif


    It it offensive because it implies you are ashamed of being gay and are setting out to to distance yourself from being connected your homosexual brothers by impersonating the behavior of typical male heterosexuals.

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    Jul 24, 2009 12:27 PM GMT
    in that case go with Drew´s advice OR if there is someone hot nearby go for them. icon_rolleyes.gif Then just explain it was a political statement about heteronormativity and the way that it makes many young gay men insecure.

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    Jul 24, 2009 12:34 PM GMT
    All "straight-acting" means is you don't fit the stereotype that the media has pushed into people's head of what a gay person acts like. Take it as a compliment.
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    Jul 24, 2009 1:01 PM GMT
    To me, "straight acting" implies that one is acting and has issues with their sexuality. Conforming to a homo 'ideal' is just as wrong, in my opinion.

    Tell him you aren't their to measure up to his standards of how a gay should and shouldn't act.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jul 24, 2009 1:22 PM GMT
    I don't much like the term at all. Like some already said, it connotes a sense that "straight acting" behavior is somehow more desireable than "gay" behavior. I don't use the description.
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    Jul 24, 2009 1:49 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidI don't much like the term at all. Like some already said, it connotes a sense that "straight acting" behavior is somehow more desireable than "gay" behavior. I don't use the description.



    What is "gay" behavior?
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    Jul 24, 2009 2:09 PM GMT
    MsclDrew saidHit up Kirk......he dresses up as an asian drag queen and runs round Soho molesting people, throwing his flyers in cab windows and pretending not to speak English icon_lol.gif


    he really deosn't I must be out in soho 6 nights a week and I've yet to see him.

    and thank you guys for reminding me of my argument. icon_biggrin.gif
    Seriously surprised i couldn't argue my case yesterday.
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    Jul 25, 2009 12:17 PM GMT
    Maybe it should be 'straight appearing'?

    Most straight people have no idea how to tell if people are gay.

    They are looking for flamboyance-think Mr. Humphrys or Bruno.

    If you don't have those characteristics, to them your not gay.

    Unfortunately, it seems gay people buy into this a little too.

    Wear their straight appearance like a badge, use the term to describe themselves etc.

    Is this wrong? Who can say right or wrong? One thing is sure though, we can't expect the straight people to stop labeling us if we continue to do it ourselves.
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    Jul 25, 2009 12:40 PM GMT
    Ask him if a lesbian who acts like a man is also 'straight acting'.

    ...

    Oh nvm, he also probably thinks lipstick lesbians are straight acting.

    Just kill him. Kill them all!
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    Jul 25, 2009 12:55 PM GMT
    Straight acting.

    You are truly blessed to be in my company and doubly blessed if I have sex with you, for nobody would ever suspect that I am a loathesome, disgusting homosexual, even though I am.
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    Jul 25, 2009 1:24 PM GMT
    why do you care...
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    Jul 25, 2009 1:26 PM GMT
    lilTanker saidwhy do you care...


    uh huh. The short fused "don´t call me fem/straight appearing" always screams "learn political behaviour". Just be who you are, let others be who they are and stop obsessing over it (message to RJ posters in general rather than just Fablegory).
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    Jul 25, 2009 1:55 PM GMT
    ya, what tank said.

    get over it...geez...'masculine' 'str8-acting' who cares? its a descriptor, dont be such a whiny crybaby
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    Jul 25, 2009 2:19 PM GMT
    wrestlervic saidAll "straight-acting" means is you don't fit the stereotype that the media has pushed into people's head of what a gay person acts like. Take it as a compliment.


    EXACTLY!
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    Jul 25, 2009 2:35 PM GMT


    This reminds me of a constant idiotic statement I find myself accused of " Your not really black" People that make statements like this find it easy to categorize people into stereotypes so they don't have to address the person before them for who they are. Which often means they lack good communication skills. People are truly a variety and not knowing that is walking thru life w/ blinders on
  • LifeByTheHorn

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    Jul 25, 2009 2:51 PM GMT
    Under the psyche of every " straight " or " not in touch with their own nature " man there lies an ocean of BISEXUALITY. Ahuh!!!. Their robotic, paralyzed, ,synthetic movements of their body do show how pathetically suppressed they are psychologically . They try to cover that with excessive, artificial & theatrical bravado.

    But on the contrary you are expressive, more lyrical & in tune with your emotions, ultimately with yourself. I am proud of you, just being YOU.
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    Jul 25, 2009 3:04 PM GMT
    uhmm well if we are talking about guys only then:

    straight = heterosexual
    heterosexual = sex_with_women
    acting = impersonate
    impersonate = fake

    straight + acting = impersonate + heterosexual
    impersonate + heterosexual = fake + sex_with_women

    hence: straight acting stands for faking sex with women!!!!!!


    how do you do that? icon_question.gificon_confused.gif
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 25, 2009 3:06 PM GMT
    lilTanker saidwhy do you care...




    tommysguns2000 saidya, what tank said.

    get over it...geez...'masculine' 'str8-acting' who cares? its a descriptor, dont be such a whiny crybaby



    I don't see what the big deal is either. It's just a descriptive term that basically means what it says. Don't stress over the little stuff since it's a term that isn't likely to ever go away. One could also say you don't "Act gay". But then the PC police would argue that term too.
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    Jul 25, 2009 3:13 PM GMT


    I think the accuser's message in more about the implication of one pretending or rejecting what he's sees as a gay man's behavior. So his vision is distorted as he only Identifies in his head one type of gay male. and I'm sure we can agree, there are many types of men who act many types of ways and identify w/ integrity that they are gay
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    Jul 25, 2009 3:15 PM GMT
    Great. Now we have to get rid of all the "masculine acting gays" to achieve our fiendish homosexual agenda. icon_twisted.gif
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    Jul 25, 2009 3:31 PM GMT
    I am a proud 'smart-acting' gay man.

    No...I'm not actually smart at all, but I know how to act smart so I can get along in society.

    I know I had you all fooled.
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    Jul 25, 2009 3:37 PM GMT
    I think everyone needs to 'man up' and stop worrying about labels or phrases. j/k

    We do need to have a better term than 'straight acting'. Everyone knows what it means, that it is a masculine person who no one would know was gay if they saw them out or unless they told them.

    But, I have found that people who use the term to describe themselves usually are... whereas people are more apt to use 'masculine' when they shouldn't. icon_smile.gif