How many sit-ups/crunches should I do per day?

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    Nov 29, 2007 9:43 AM GMT
    Hey
    Quick question, how many sit-ups should I do per day?
    Is 100 too little?
    How about 200 or 300?
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    Nov 29, 2007 8:56 PM GMT
    at the very least 200.
  • DiverScience

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    Nov 29, 2007 9:26 PM GMT
    The answer is, you're asking the wrong question.
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    Nov 30, 2007 12:01 AM GMT
    thanks for the quick replies
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    Nov 30, 2007 12:03 AM GMT
    Please enlighten us cowboy... Got any advise?
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    Nov 30, 2007 12:30 AM GMT
    Check, what are you trying to accomplish?
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    Nov 30, 2007 6:17 AM GMT
    Unless you'd like a big gut, 3 set of 25's of 3 different exercises should be plenty.

    Visibility comes with low fat levels.

    I.e., if you increase your overall mass, it'll be easier to stay leaner, and you'll have better luck at getting abs, provided you don't eat stupid.

    Work on getting some muscles, and the abs will follow.
  • Kevin82

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    Nov 30, 2007 6:29 AM GMT
    Do 300!!
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    Nov 30, 2007 8:38 AM GMT
    Thanks Chuck.
    I'll stay slim then ;)
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    Nov 30, 2007 11:33 AM GMT
    chuckystudUnless you'd like a big gut, 3 set of 25's of 3 different exercises should be plenty.

    Visibility comes with low fat levels.

    I.e., if you increase your overall mass, it'll be easier to stay leaner, and you'll have better luck at getting abs, provided you don't eat stupid.

    Work on getting some muscles, and the abs will follow.


    I couldn't agree more. In high school my swimming coach had us do like 300 crunches a day! Grant if you see my pic Im not the leanest of guys and as a result BAM! I got the rock hard abs I wanted and I could sort of see outlines forming of my abs but it would have been better if I had lost the weight first. Now its kind of like they stick out more then maybe they should. Maybe its something else but I think it would better to do an all over cardio weight loss combined with whole body building working. I dont know much about this stuff but from the results ive seen from doing cardio classes and weight lifting its really been paying off. I should take some new pics soon. Since about july to now I have lost nearly 45 lbs doing cardio and weight lifting classes. Gold's Gym and the Les Mills group exercies classes are F-amzing!
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    Nov 30, 2007 1:21 PM GMT
    CS is right. 3-4 sets of 25 should be enough.

    The real secret though is the variety of 'sit up/ crunch exercises that you do and the leanness thing - get lean and they are more likely to 'pop'.
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    Nov 30, 2007 1:37 PM GMT
    Remember, at some point common sense should prevail: every pound of lean muscle burns 15 calories per day, every day, just being there. By far the easiest way to get leaner is to increase your calories, and your lean muscle mass, which will INCREASE YOUR BASE METABOLIC RATE AS YOU GROW OLDER. ONLY resistance exercise can do this. And added benefits are stronger bones, and higher androgen levels.

    It's called "fueling the furnace". Endless hours of abs, and cardio, are not only futile, but, they train your body, over time, on how to become a fat-storing machine. That why fat folks so often fail. They don't do their homework and want to be spoon fed, and get their diets "upside down." The mindless cardio training causes what's called a feast/famine response, and slows your overall metabolism (because of caloric deficit).

    The more muscle you carry, and provided you have adequate calories, and metabolic activation (intervals are by far the best), you'll get leaner, stronger, and raise your metabolism, as YOU GROW OLDER, particularly if androgen levels are properly maintained.

    I might also add that intervals, unlike mindless cardio, increase your cardiac threshold as well as cardiac endurance. (They push the window every time if you do them right. That's why I can be 47 at 10% and run my heart rate at 160 BPM for 20.)

    Let common sense prevail; do your research into the human machine. Do NOT be caloricly restrictive. No point in doing mindless hours of abs if you don't have leanness.
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    Nov 30, 2007 1:54 PM GMT
    Chucky put it quite well, so no need for further enlightenment.

    The problem is that people know what their goal is, but don't do the research to figure out the actual way to get there. The short answer is, "If it's popular, it's likely wrong." Because all those tapes and programs and machines and such make money by selling themselves, not by getting results.
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    Nov 30, 2007 11:15 PM GMT
    ryan_andrew:
    You did 300 sit-ups each day - in how many sets?

    chic:
    To get defined.

    chucky:
    Interesting to read what you wrote,thanks for sharing.

    itjock:
    Thanks! I will google some on how to do different kinds of sit-ups. I think I heard this advice before but totally forgot about it.
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    Dec 01, 2007 5:28 PM GMT
    I have been doing like 30 every other day which is probably likely why im not seeing results i want.

    so if i go nuts and do like 100-200 a day how long will it take to start seeing results? i dont need like a crazy six pack i just want more definition.
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    Dec 01, 2007 5:33 PM GMT
    eat properly and you get definition its as simple as that
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    Dec 01, 2007 8:27 PM GMT
    Low calories causes your metabolic efficiency to go up, and causes you to burn protein (muscle) in the absence of adequate carbs, when the calories are to low. This is commmonly called the feast famine response and is very common among the obese. When that happens, as in mindless cardio, you compromise your metabolic rate. Lean muscle mass increases base metabolism. Not cardio. Cardio burns fat, if calories are at adequate, but, burns protein, if they aren't. Cardio without adequate calories actually will slow your metabolism to a crawl (the famine response). It's well studied, and well documented.

    You need to research this in more depth. It's well documented.

    The efficiency of intervals for fat reduction, cardiac threshold, and cardiac endurance, is by far superior to that of mindless cardio, and it preserves your lean muscle, as well. Any good college level sports science program knows this. Man, is by design, is made to run in short bursts in the gathering of a protein rich diet. Unless the smoke signals faded, running vast distances was not part of the equation.

    ONLY lean mass increases will raise your overall base metabolism. I'm afraid you're very much in error.
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    Dec 01, 2007 9:42 PM GMT
    Errrr... Did I miss something?

    I don't think I even saw him contribute to the above discussion before this?

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    Dec 01, 2007 11:17 PM GMT
    Well, one look at my photo will tell you I am no expert on working out, but another RJer told me about 8 months ago that he was doing 500 a day and seeing results. I got up to that point for a while and though I did not get a 6-pack, my midsection was much stronger and felt good to me. After the holidays, when I am done raking leaves and shopping blah, blah, blah, I intend to resume that, plus some serious cardio!

    You are getting good advice from Chuckystud and others and I certainly would not contradict them, just my experience.
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    Dec 02, 2007 10:51 AM GMT

    We would do 300 a day 6 times a week. 100 each time we got together for practice which was 3 time every day we worked out. Everyone just did them all at once. I would have to stop and rest a little once I got up to I think about 25. I mean honestly working out has never really been my thing until this past year when my parents, mainly my dad, was being faced with all these heatlh problems requiring him to change his diet. Im a newb at this stuff which is why im here.
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    Dec 02, 2007 4:06 PM GMT
    chungo its def not just about eating. I am a vegan and eat extremely healthfully. just eating alone will not give you abs. you need to wake up those muscles through movement in order to get them to show. the question is how much movement. 30-300 5 billion sit ups a day. different types of crunches?
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    Dec 02, 2007 4:54 PM GMT
    Interesting post on this subject. Ok my question than.. I go to gym every other day and work out my whole body. Than I rest the muscle relax next day. Is that wrong? Second, should i be doing situps everyday regardless if I go to gym or not? I have been told just like any other muscle u want to let it relax to build. I do agree some with biceps post. Yeah it would be nice to get advice from a personal trainer however; a forum is used for everyone to put their inputs good or bad in. And people to take advice. And from what I have seen from most of your pics. what you are doing works for you. New to this site so exploring alot of things on here. WHAT I REALLY BADLY need is someone to help me with my dietry. Set me up on a food schedule that is where I have the biggest problem at.. But i also have alot of food allergies and on a really low budget income right now. So i cant afford to go out and buy all those weight and muscle shake mixes and all that healthy good stuff. i really wonder if the old fashion way really works egg and milk shakes yuck lol.
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    Dec 02, 2007 5:18 PM GMT
    This is why so many people do sit ups and them give up on there abs.

    Traditional sit-ups emphasize sitting up rather than merely pulling your sternum down to meet your pelvis. The psoas muscles run from the lower back to the front of the thighs. This muscle action is to pull the thighs closer to the torso.
    This action is the major component of sitting up. Because of this, when you are doing sit ups your psoas muscles are the primary muscles being engaged and not your abdominals.
    So, sit-ups are a pretty useless exercise if you want to get your abs in shape. Instead, use crunches, because they directly work your abs.
    Remember cruches only tone the ab muscles, you need a lowered calorie intake to burn off the fat, so the muscles then show through clearly.
    If you always "target" the muscle you want to develop you will see faster growth and change. Always make your workouts count.
    Great workouts
    Joe
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    Dec 02, 2007 5:26 PM GMT
    are these helpful at all?

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    Dec 02, 2007 5:28 PM GMT
    It's an assisted sit up, forget it.
    Joe