Unique New York?

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    Jul 25, 2009 1:32 AM GMT
    Alright, so this worked out well for my Chicago trip, so I'm trying it again for my New York trip! I'll be heading to New York City next weekend. Aside from all the normal touristy stuff that everyone does (I'll probably do some of that), what's some other great things to do in NYC? I'll be on my bike all weekend, so I'll definitely be getting a different experience of NYC than most. I'll probably hit up a few of the homo bars as well. Any recommendations? I'll again assert that I am a fairly casual person.... so most of those swanky "dress to impress" places would not be the place for me. My main profile picture is a good example of my general form of dress.
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    Jul 25, 2009 9:29 AM GMT

    What up Toddy!
    Let me be the 1st to welcome you to the apple. considering that NYC holds nothing but the most unique, Ill mannered, fashionable and most diverse individuals in the east by lking at your default photo you'll fit in just fine at any establishment in the city. If by chance I'm not out east next weekend I'll buy you a beer. Type Citysearch in your browser and look under gay it might give you a few places and description that might peek your interest. Splash, G,lounge Gym are all great bars....Have fun and be careful on that bike as cabby's tend to own the streets.
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    Jul 25, 2009 9:42 AM GMT
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  • GQjock

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    Jul 25, 2009 10:25 AM GMT
    If you're on you Bike then Central Park is the place to be
    On a nice sunny day there'll be lots of people
    Another must is the Green along Westside Hwy
    You can bike along the whole route and stop off at Christopher st Pier icon_cool.gif
    All the boys will be out for you there
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    Jul 25, 2009 11:22 AM GMT
    What are you doing in NYC that will require you to be on a bike all weekend? And if you think you're going to be touring this fine city on the seat of a bicycle, you've got another thing coming, especially if you're new to the Big Apple. Most NYC virgins don't last 10 minutes on a bicycle, but you'll figure that out soon enough.

    "Dress to impress" places? The Harvard Club or NY Yacht Club, perhaps, but there aren't too many casual venues that require that type of attire. In NYC, you dress as comfortably as you want.

    Homo bar recommendations? If you want a true bridge-and-tunnel experience, go to Splash, in Chelsea. Otherwise, stay as far away from that place - and Chelsea - as possible. Go there horny and you'll end up with another tourist, or Guido the killer pimp from Yonkers, or Fat Tony from Hoboken *shudders*.

    Chelsea clones are almost as tragic as the San Fran clones of the late 70's/early 80's. Besides, most of the great Chelsea gay bars are gone, IMO. Do an Internet search for gay bars in Hell's Kitchen, NYC. That's where a lot of the young, hip local gay population hangs on Thurs., Fri. and Sat. nights. Therapy, and places like that come to mind. The East Village is not for noob's, but there are many fantastic gay and gay-friendly watering holes in that area. The West Village is interesting to check out, but don't do the bars in that area unless you want to be bored out of your skull.

    Good luck, have fun, and be careful.
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    Jul 25, 2009 12:25 PM GMT
    check out the new highline walk way that just opened inthe meatpacking district and will lead u right to chelsea. its a new elevated walkway that was developed and just opened like a month ago. take your bike on a ride around governors island. great place for a bike ride.
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    Jul 25, 2009 12:52 PM GMT
    Tapper saidWhat are you doing in NYC that will require you to be on a bike all weekend? And if you think you're going to be touring this fine city on the seat of a bicycle, you've got another thing coming, especially if you're new to the Big Apple. Most NYC virgins don't last 10 minutes on a bicycle, but you'll figure that out soon enough.

    Well I'm a bike kid around here in Columbus, and while it's no New York, I've also biked around Chicago, New Orleans, Memphis, St. Louis, and Minneapolis, among other areas not so urban and been fine there. I will probably wear my helmet in NYC though, just in case. The only reason I'm bringing my bike is because honestly, the best way I know to experience a city is on a bike. It's a form of transportation allowing you to cover a lot of ground while at the same time still being able to take in the sights. My friend bikes around NYC all the time (and works in a bike shop there), so she's probably going to meet me at the bus stop and guide me back to her place to drop off my stuff, then we're/I'm gonna go exploring. I have confidence in my skill. It will be a terrifying and exhilarating experience!
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    Jul 25, 2009 12:54 PM GMT
    Tapper said
    "Dress to impress" places? The Harvard Club or NY Yacht Club, perhaps, but there aren't too many casual venues that require that type of attire. In NYC, you dress as comfortably as you want.

    It's one of my major problems with Chicago. It seems a lot of places you go you get looked down at if you're not in a button down. I'm glad NYC does not have that same "too impressed with itself" mentality.
  • stevarino7

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    Jul 25, 2009 1:08 PM GMT
    not all places can accommodate such trashiness as yours, Todd icon_wink.gif

    Hope you enjoy the city, stop by Boston and say hi!
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    Jul 25, 2009 1:31 PM GMT
    Like Tapper said, you might like Therapy in Hell's Kitchen. G Lounge in Chelsea probably wouldn't be your kind of place, although it can be fun with the right crowd. Other than those two, I don't know many places since I haven't lived there in about five years.

    Funny enough I'm going up to visit next weekend as well. I'm spending half of my time out in PA/NJ doing some other activities, but I always like to hit up the city too. If you like parks, definitely hit up the new High Line park like someone else said. Apparently it is stunning - a park built on an old elevated railway. www.thehighline.org If you like the "touristy" stuff, you might want to check out Top of the Rock at Rockefeller Center. I haven't been there yet myself, but it's the newer observation deck which is supposed to be great.

    Coming from Ohio myself, I love NYC. There's a massive population of transplants, so anyone can feel comfortable there. Have fun!
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    Jul 25, 2009 1:38 PM GMT
    In addition to the already mentioned... You could head up the west side and go over the GW Bridge. From the middle of the bridge you can get some great photos of the city of its a clear day.
  • coolarmydude

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    Jul 25, 2009 1:49 PM GMT
    Ummm, bring extra tubing and carry it with you. You won't enjoy the potholes and you can't use the sidewalks. The best place to bike is Central Park.

    You may also want to check out the museums. And if you have time, go out to Long Island (take the train) and check out the wineries on North Fork. I just got back from there yesterday. And bring your bike as there are bike lanes/wide shoulders along Old Country Road. Hit up Mattituck/Cutchogue and eastward.
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    Jul 25, 2009 1:49 PM GMT
    stevarino7 saidnot all places can accommodate such trashiness as yours, Todd icon_wink.gif

    Hope you enjoy the city, stop by Boston and say hi!

    Steve, you're a bitch. Eat a dick and die. Looooooooooooooooooooovvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeee yyyyyyyyooooooooouuuuuuuuuuu!!

    I would stop by Boston and say hi, but only because I'd want to say hello to Joy.
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    Jul 25, 2009 1:53 PM GMT
    I grew up here in NYC, and know the city like the back of my hand.....the best cheapest restaurants, the hidden dance clubs, the best DJ's, the museums, the coolest bars. I love my city.

    Send me an email for more info.

    A great bike trail starts around the Financial district, along the East River, under the FDR Highway, and goes past the Brooklyn Bridge all the way up the East Side.

    The Gym Sportsbar is my favorite watering hole, in Chelsea........regular guys..hot.........very little attitude and lots of drink specials.

    So much to do and see. You will love it.

    And forget anything anybody says about "don't go here or there". Go EVERYWHERE............that's what the city is all about.
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    Jul 25, 2009 2:37 PM GMT
    A novice biker in Manhattan has the life expectancy of a fruit fly. His parked bike even less. No chain or cable can resist a New York thief's cutters, or he'll use his tools to strip it. You'll return to just a frame and wheels (if you properly locked them, too). No seat, no handlebars, no pedals, no go.

    For a pleasant ride Central Park can be nice. Just don't park the bike out of sight, never ride at night, and try to stay in busy areas. Bike-jackings do happen.

    I definitely would not plan to use your bike for getting around to other parts of the city. Murderous traffic and the theft problem as I said, unless you can bring your bike indoors, which is what office bikers do. Instead, buy an unlimited transit pass for the length of time you'll be there. Good for buses & subways, the subways much improved from some years ago. Just avoid them at night.

    As for gay bars, that's always a matter of personal taste, and what you plan to do, and if you're alone or with someone. One gay man's bar is another gay man's poison.

    Bars I've personally visited: Stonewall as a gay ticket-punch, to say you were there. A big nothing as an actual working bar, so walk down the street to the Monster while you're there. Has dancing downstairs for a younger crowd (after 10 PM as I recall), your typical over-the-hill piano area upstairs, but also some cruising around the main bar. So-so overall.

    Splash has been named, not bad for someone your age. Also Therapy, which I find kind of young-professional-tame, with casual seat groupings and plenty of women, pricey drinks, everyone engaging in loud, trendy talk. I think you really need to be with someone to make Therapy enjoyable.

    The Eagle offers lots of action, plenty of leather boys and shirtless wonders running around. Just beware of hustlers, and it's not in a great area at night. At the opposite end of the scale, for the Park Avenue set, the Townhouse, one of my favorites.

    Which is literally what it is, a brownstone with residential decor, and you might want to phone ahead to see what nights they may have door control. Minimum attire is professional-preppy, but business suits after the office are also common. Very discreet exterior with merely a brass wall plaque, although the limousines outside are a hint, not to mention the guys inside with their own bodyguards.

    Also best visited with someone along (in fact, they may bar single men they don't know, I've always gone with someone). But surprisingly the prices not that out of line for New York, and I recall the martinis being less than at Therapy. Has a pianist, though I'm not sure what nights.

    If you're a museum goer like me, these are my favorites: MOMA, Metropolitan, Natural History (with the planetarium), and the Frick Collection, to which my ex-BF belongs. There are more, but those alone could take over a week.

    Guided tours can include Rockefeller Center, with a separate tour of Radio City Music Hall, the United Nations, Ellis Island & Statue of Liberty (you take a ferry). The major churches & cathedrals like St. Patrick's (across from Rockefeller Center), St. John the Divine (world's largest Gothic church), Trinity at Wall Street, the Stock Exchange, and Ground Zero of the WTC. All these I've done and more.

    The Empire State Building is OK, but you'll wait 2 hours or more. I get to avoid it because I'm handicapped, but as someone noted above, the top of the GE Building (old RCA) is quicker and fun, too.

    Hope you have a great trip! E-mail me directly if you have specific questions.
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    Jul 25, 2009 3:36 PM GMT
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    I definitely would not plan to use your bike for getting around to other parts of the city. Murderous traffic and the theft problem as I said, unless you can bring your bike indoors, which is what office bikers do. Instead, buy an unlimited transit pass for the length of time you'll be there. Good for buses & subways, the subways much improved from some years ago. Just avoid them at night.

    Bars I've personally visited: Stonewall as a gay ticket-punch, to say you were there. A big nothing as an actual working bar, so walk down the street to the Monster while you're there. Has dancing downstairs for a younger crowd (after 10 PM as I recall), your typical over-the-hill piano area upstairs, but also some cruising around the main bar. So-so overall.

    The Eagle offers lots of action, plenty of leather boys and shirtless wonders running around. Just beware of hustlers, and it's not in a great area at night. At the opposite end of the scale, for the Park Avenue set, the Townhouse, one of my favorites.


    I'm sorry red but your are crazy.

    Did you really just warn someone to stay out of the subway at night? seriously what is this 1980? The subways are safe, you can ride them at anytime.I have taken then at 4 AM and 4PM, you will be fine.

    You then go on to recommend, The monster (one of the most atrocious bars in town. Then you tell him to watch out for the hustlers at the eagle, but recommend the townhouse (a bar which is famous for hustlers. If someone is under 40 and at the townhouse they are working, and I dont mean as a bartender.)
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    Jul 25, 2009 3:51 PM GMT
    At night, the subways are full of people going to or coming from a night out on the town. People are smiling and laughing and having a good time and are very respectful and will offer you a seat, especially if they sense you had "one too many". Its also the fastest and cheapest way to get around.

    The Eagle is on 28th street on the west side. Sunday is the famous beer blast with $3 shots of Cuervo and the DJ is great. A lot of guys try way too hard to appear macho and tough, but like anyplace else, you can connect with a "real one". That block is filled with other clubs, mostly straight (the whole velvet rope thing) and is very safe.

    There are gay dance cruises, where you can go out for a night of dancing and sail around the harbor with the Statue of Liberty saluting you and the twinkling lights of the city as a backdrop.

    Its a magical city.

    Its also a walking city......with opportunities at every corner. Don't be afraid of going anywhere.

    Its also a biking city, with many major avenues having bike lanes. I know people who travel exclusively by bike and never have a problem.


  • DCEric

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    Jul 25, 2009 5:01 PM GMT
    http://www.statuecruises.com/

    It's touristy, but I've done it twice now, and really enjoy it. Don't bother going into Lady Liberty, just look and go over to Ellis Island. That is what is really interesting, well to me anyway.
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    Jul 25, 2009 10:12 PM GMT
    I agree with Chungo. The subways are totally safe. In the five years that I lived there, I didn't feel unsafe in the subway once. Some city blocks in certain parts of town, yes - very unsafe. But, never the subway.

    Definitely be careful on your bike though. Cars will NOT care about you at all. One of my best friends was a seasoned NYC bicycler. She biked to work in Manhattan from Brooklyn, rode out to Montauk from the city, rode through every Borough all the time, etc... She knew what she was doing. But, she had no control over the car that ran into her from behind at a light and paralyzed her for life. So, just be extra cautious and make sure you watch what the cars are doing around you as well.

    Another thing I thought of was if you're wanting to save a little cash, take the Staten Island Ferry to get an amazing view of the Statue of Liberty and lower Manhattan. It's totally free and a great trip - just don't get off at Staten Island. icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 26, 2009 1:26 AM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidA novice biker in Manhattan has the life expectancy of a fruit fly. His parked bike even less. No chain or cable can resist a New York thief's cutters, or he'll use his tools to strip it. You'll return to just a frame and wheels (if you properly locked them, too). No seat, no handlebars, no pedals, no go.

    1) Not a novice biker. By any means. New to Manhattan, yes. Novice? Far from it.

    2) Chains or cables? It's called a U-Lock. They're pretty intense.

    3) Whoever steals my pedals can enjoy them... without the use of Crank Brothers cleated shoes they are fairly useless. The joys of an eggbeater =D

    coolarmydude saidUmmm, bring extra tubing and carry it with you. You won't enjoy the potholes and you can't use the sidewalks. The best place to bike is Central Park.

    Don't worry, I've always got my bike bag with me. It's got a spare tube or two, a patch kit, tools and CO2. Everything I need to fix stuff when I'm on the go.

    In other matters, I'm not all that concerned about my personal safety or anything like that, but thanks for the heads up on that. What exactly do you mean by hustlers though? As in, men working as prostitutes?

    And as far as places to go, chungo, just tell me where you're planning on going out next weekend and I'll make sure to show up there! ((Kidding))

    The only museums I'm dead set on visiting are the Met, the Neue Gallerie, and the Cloisters. Since I was a German & Medieval History major in college, of course those museums really tug at my heart strings.

    Are there any neighborhoods you really recommend I go see? Little Italy? Chinatown? Financial District?
  • danisnotstr8

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    Jul 26, 2009 1:29 AM GMT
    I really must recommend a favorite restaurant of NYC locals.... in Little Italy there's a Cuban restaurant (??) called Havana. They have a grilled corn appetizer there... rolled in oil and cheese... i just cannot describe this except to say that people wait in line out the door and around the corner for a seat. It's phenomenal. Seriously. I think it's on Mulberry street.
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    Jul 26, 2009 5:28 PM GMT
    Well since you will have your bike, I suggest cycling across the George Washington Bridge into New Jersey. A favored route among local cyclists is to take route 9W northbound up to Bear Mountain. However do plan for a long ride (I think it's like 100+ miles round-trip... but of course you don't have to go all the way). It is a nice route offering up beautiful views and it is well travelled by cyclists (so you won't be alone).

    ... you'll be missing out on restaurant week (ends 07/31)... great way to check out new restaurants on the cheap.

    Have fun!!
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    Jul 28, 2009 10:29 PM GMT
    Anyone else? Tips and tricks? Places to go? Things to see?
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    Jul 28, 2009 10:50 PM GMT
    Govenor's Island just opened and with no cares allowed, is a biker's paradise. You catch the free ferry just north of the Staten Island Ferry.

    And as far as bars, go to the Eagle (East 28th Street), especially on Sunday early evening. They have a rooftop beer blast that's fun and frisky!
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    Jul 28, 2009 10:56 PM GMT
    I recommend biking across the Brooklyn Bridge (on the elevated bike path) and having pizza at Grimaldi's and ice cream at the Brooklyn Ice Cream Factory both of which are quite famous and well worth the (scenic) trip.