Episcopal Church

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    Jul 25, 2009 11:31 PM GMT
    The Episcopal Church recently took a major gay affirming step even at the risk of cutting the church off from the more conservative/anti-gay worldwide Anglican Church. The Episcopal church, unlike anti-gay churches (e.g, Catholic), is a church gay Christians can be proud supporting.
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    Jul 25, 2009 11:49 PM GMT
    Edith Bunker was a proud supporter of the Episcopalians, if I recall correctly.icon_eek.gif
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    Jul 26, 2009 3:48 AM GMT
    My friend Tyler passed away from Hodgkin's Lymphoma in September of '07 was aspiring to enter the priesthood in the Episcopal Church.

    He was married to his husband in a bedside ceremony by an Episcopal priest. Tyler died a few minutes later. His funeral, beautiful and grandiose in true Episcopalian fashion, was at St. Marks in Seattle. During the ceremony the priest referred to his husband JJ (pointedly using the term husband) several times during the eulogy as if it was the most natural thing in the world.

    I'm not a huge fan of Christianity in general, but the Episcopalians have earned a special a place in my heart.
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    Jul 26, 2009 6:25 AM GMT
    ok, gays need a reality check . . . a first century messianic Jew would not -- ever -- support anything gay, nor would he support the ridiculous modern Episcopal Church which was founded upon adultery and disobedience . . . he would, in fact, spew you out of his mouth and condemn you to the outer reaches of hell for all eternity . . .
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    Jul 26, 2009 10:14 AM GMT
    noren saidok, gays need a reality check . . . a first century messianic Jew would not -- ever -- support anything gay, nor would he support the ridiculous modern Episcopal Church which was founded upon adultery and disobedience . . . he would, in fact, spew you out of his mouth and condemn you to the outer reaches of hell for all eternity . . .


    Jesus really doesn't have anything to say on sex. It was (the later) St Paul with the hang ups.

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    Jul 26, 2009 10:36 AM GMT
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    In my mostly unlucky childhood one of the bright points was the lack of religious indoctrination from my parents. My father was reacting to the insanity of my grandparents fundamentalist hate and my mother just didn't care.

    My first exposure to organized religion was attending an Episcopalian private school that was next door to my mom's office. The decision to put me there was logistic and neither educational nor religious.

    St. Mark's Academy was a great place to be and it gave me a lifelong appreciation for the church. When I finally decided on my own to seek a religious fellowship it was the Church of the Holy Trinity on the UES of Manhattan.

    Sexual orientation hasn't been a real issue in the church for awhile. Most urban parishes don't really care. My partner and I entertained our pastor in our home many times.

    It is great to see that this next step has been taken. If it breaks the Anglican communion then it really needed to be broken. The Archbishop of Canterbury doesn't really speak for the American church.

    We don't go to church anymore because we live in a Catholic country. You can have any kind of religion you want as long as it is Catholic. If I was still in New York I would still be going to church on Sunday and enjoying it as I always did.

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    Jul 26, 2009 10:57 AM GMT
    UrsamajorIt is great to see that this next step has been taken. If it breaks the Anglican communion then it really needed to be broken. The Archbishop of Canterbury doesn't really speak for the American church.


    Agreed.

    I'm pretty sure that the Arch Bishop is, in fact, pro gay rights in his conscience - it's just he's trying to hold the communion together.

    For that reason I wouldn't be upset at all if there was a wider schism, not just in America.
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    Jul 26, 2009 12:46 PM GMT
    I was raised from birth and baptised at an Episcopal church in Wichita.
    While that particular church has changed, mostly due to its location, I've been attending another Episcopal church, which was on offshoot from the one I originally attended. I've always felt very much at home and glad
    the church I was told to respect was one that in fact respects me.
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    Jul 26, 2009 1:33 PM GMT
    GuerrillaSodomite saidMy friend Tyler passed away from Hodgkin's Lymphoma in September of '07 was aspiring to enter the priesthood in the Episcopal Church.

    He was married to his husband in a bedside ceremony by and Episcopal priest. Tyler died a few minutes later. His funeral, beautiful and grandiose in true Episcopalian fashion, was at St. Marks in Seattle. During the ceremony the priest referred to his husband JJ (pointedly using the term husband) several times during the eulogy as if it was the most natural thing in the world.

    I'm not a huge fan of Christianity in general, but the Episcopalians have earned a special a place in my heart.


    A sad, but beautiful story. Thanks for sharing it.
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    Jul 26, 2009 1:38 PM GMT
    26mileman saidEdith Bunker was a proud supporter of the Episcopalians, if I recall correctly.icon_eek.gif


    Her character was everything I wished my mother - and all women I knew as a child - would aspire to be.
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    Jul 26, 2009 3:37 PM GMT
    As a young guy, I studied a number of churches. The Episcopal Church was the church for me, and I've been supporting and attending that church - as well as singing there with a good number of other gay parishoners for many years. Gay people are not merely tolerated in the Episcopal church, we are welcomed and accepted. We even have elected and consecrated an openly gay bishop........who holds one of the highest offices in the church.
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    Jul 27, 2009 1:58 AM GMT
    Episcopalian is the American word for the "Church of England!" The chuch of England already has homosexual Bishops and priests, and lord forbid women ones too; sacrilege, because this has prevented me from becoming a member, because the priesthood is not for women, it's a men's club. But it is there to serve women.