The Homosexual & Bi community[s] is so divers yet so unaccepting of one an other's differences, political or otherwise., your hearts are so full of hate for them/us. So

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    Jul 27, 2009 10:26 AM GMT
    how in the hell are you able to expect, demand other communities to be accepting and tolerant of homosexuality, and it's diversity, and too open their hearts to us, when you are not able to do it for your own?
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    Jul 27, 2009 10:32 AM GMT
    You know I'm not a saint or perfect, and I'm not accepting of all things gay or bisexual either. But my heart is not full of hate for those diffrent to myself! One may well not date a flamer, because I find their actions a turn off, but I don't hate them, nothing in that says I would not befriend them. Nor have I blocked anyone for being a flamer, or for having a diffrent political view to myself.

    But I do ponder: how can the gay community[s] As well the bisexual one, demand acceptance when they are anything but?

    Albeit the one person I have blocked here is some wee guy who began attacking me, by making threats of violence, when I created my first thread. Now that thread, was all about me and no-one else; But this person continues to stalk me. So he has nothing to do with this thread, other than his heart is full of hate, and bitterness.
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    Jul 27, 2009 10:38 AM GMT
    Christmas party not going very well?
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    Jul 27, 2009 12:00 PM GMT
    Maybe you can get us started by not using the term "flamer." icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 27, 2009 12:14 PM GMT
    Christian sweety, don't bother, the man who is now preaching about "hate" has said some of the most hateful things on this forum... he's not worth your effort.
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    Jul 27, 2009 12:19 PM GMT
    ... our community is very fractured, yet when you look at our literature we show a very narrow picture of who we really are. The way we represent ourselves to each other as well as the broader community can go a long way in showing just how diverse and accepting we are of each other.
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    Jul 27, 2009 9:42 PM GMT
    lilTanker saidChristian sweety, don't bother, the man who is now preaching about "hate" has said some of the most hateful things on this forum... he's not worth your effort.


    Oh please, bigot alert.

    You being an Australian living in Oz, well know us Aussies are not faint hearted, or overly sensitive. We are happy to grab an issue by the horns and just deal with it. We are not the ones to bring in political correctness to Oz, to use as a tool to repress.

    I don't recall going out of my way to personal attack people as you do regularly. Nor am I false like you, because you just have to read the non consistency of your threads to see you are not real.
    I have said you are an Australian and not an Aussie, what is hatful about that.?
    But you become full of hate because of it!

    One has no hate not even for you, but in your own words you yourself have claimed to be very good at hating, and you are.

    Debating an issue, and being able to see the other side is not hatful.

    It's such a shame you are blinded because of your hate Benny.
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    Jul 27, 2009 9:44 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidMaybe you can get us started by not using the term "flamer." icon_rolleyes.gif


    Flamer is a word I was to learn from the gay community. It';s a word used to describe a very stereotypical homosexual; like Bruno. It's even used here a lot.
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    Jul 27, 2009 9:48 PM GMT
    yo_mamali said... our community is very fractured, yet when you look at our literature we show a very narrow picture of who we really are. The way we represent ourselves to each other as well as the broader community can go a long way in showing just how diverse and accepting we are of each other.


    It's sad I've missed that, so must of many others.

    But then my only interaction with the gay community now days is here at RJ. This interaction has changed my view of the gay community on many levels.

    But then I should remember The gays of the City I live in are very diffrent to American gays, and Sydney gays for that matter too.

    But actions do speak Lauder than words.
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    lilTanker saidChristian sweety, don't bother, the man who is now preaching about "hate" has said some of the most hateful things on this forum... he's not worth your effort.


    Yes benny and you are a bisexual, and I'm a pure homosexual so your interaction with women has been very diffrent to myself, so just with that. Our outlook is diffrent.

    Sure I may well belive a women has no right in the priesthood, but it was not set up for women; it's a mans club. You feel women should be aloud at RJ, even though it was not set up for women, and nothing stopping them or you from starting up a club for both, and not destroy this one. But my heart is not full of hate for women, as some of my best friends are women.

    But....albeit while women are trying to break down the doors of men clubs, institutions, to let in women, yet at the same time barracating women's only clubs, and institutions, to keep men out. I will maintain the stance, men have a right to women free zones, with clubs and institutions. Nothing hatful about that

    I may not agree a woman who takes injections, and who has had operations to give the facade of being a male, has any right in the men's toilets, or men's clubs. But my heart is not full of hate for them, they can do whatever they want to their body, if they can afford to do so.

    But benny it's you who has trouble with us Aussies, and you are the one full of hate. You have wished me dead a number of times, just so I would go away, so you don't have to deal with the issue at hand. because I have pulled you up on your fackness in the past. You have accused me of being like your brother, and stated you have unrsloved issues with him, and take that out on me.

    But I have the right to be me, and I am not your brother.
    Too have any political view I wish to have and be free of abuse for doind so. That is my birth right as an Aussie

    So with all the hate I have witnessed from gay democrats, I have challenged that, by challenging their beliefs, and they haven't liked that.

    I stand by my heading, and am secure in the fact you are more hatful and unaccepting than I ever have been.

    But I also know you have to deal with mental health issues I don't. But at the same time thats no excuse for a heart full of hate.
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    lilTanker saidChristian sweety, don't bother, the man who is now preaching about "hate" has said some of the most hateful things on this forum... he's not worth your effort.

    Agreed, we all know who he is (or was) here. And his threads seldom have an upbeat, positive slant, unless he's obliquely praising himself. Don't touch it.

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    lilTanker saidChristian sweety, don't bother, the man who is now preaching about "hate" has said some of the most hateful things on this forum... he's not worth your effort.

    Agreed, we all know who he is (or was) here. And his threads seldom have an upbeat, positive slant, unless he's obliquely praising himself. Don't touch it.

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    Oh please. for one I have been here longer than you, and live my whole life as a homosexual.

    You may not remember almost 3 years ago, on march 31. When I talked about telling my Russian Husband, before he had to go home to Russia in 1999, the next day, about how the world was going to change in 2001, when I awaken on my 40th B'day. This was 1999.

    I talked about it at work too, and on the net before the fact, and was abused for doing so. I talked about New York, and Twin Towers, and how when I awoke on my 40yh B'day the world would of changed, and it did all come to pass.

    I opened up here on RJ about this, on the 31st of March 2007. The whole thread turned into a thread of abuse. Mcgay was one of the worst offenders. He could not deal with this being true, as he would have to deal with his issues, so any one, or thing that makes him insecure, he goes into attack mode, to abuse and discredit that thing or person, as he did to Ms Palin, and religion. But he was not on his own.

    Then I seen all the hate that come out here, coming up to the last elections, and all the hate that come out when gay marriage was banned in CA. Non of this was positive.

    I have endured threads of hate, made just to attack me here, and little wanker has participated in that hate too, many a time. But I have not ran or fled.

    I am one of the more real people here; maybe thats why people feel threatened by me, and I don't say things just to be accepted here, as many others do

    But I'm sorry I don't have a lot of respect for a bi guy who hides behind a wife for security or work advancement, and then when he grows the balls to come out, he wants to stand under the gay banner for a change, and not the straight one, and be expected to be received with open arms.

    Any Wonder many wives of bisexual men, want to bleed them dry, because of all the damage they have done, and the lives they have ruined, just to be safe and accepted.

    I'm a troll I just love that, coz I am one of the most realist ones here.

    Go back and look at Benny's threads, and you will see he contradicts himself all the time. Oh you cant because he keeps canceling his account, so when he reappears he has a clean slat, now we are talking trolls.

    But I will plod along with me Views, and challenge other views. I'm strong in myself, and secure too, and I'm not sensitive either. I am able to allow others to think differently than myself, and not feel incecure about it. or threatened, and need to attack them.

    The American gay community is so unaccepting, maybe thats why they struggles for advancement?
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    lilTanker saidChristian sweety, don't bother, the man who is now preaching about "hate" has said some of the most hateful things on this forum... he's not worth your effort.

    Agreed, we all know who he is (or was) here. And his threads seldom have an upbeat, positive slant, unless he's obliquely praising himself. Don't touch it.

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    Oh please you say you just become gay all of a sudden, yet you have also talked about repressing your sexuality all your life, oh please.

    Dismissing me, I'm sure also helps you too deny the truth.icon_rolleyes.gif

    But I've always accepted my sexuality, and never hid behind a women.

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    muchmorethanmuscle saidSpeak for yourself. Not all homosexuals judge others. I find bisexual people, transvestites and heterosexuals interesting. icon_razz.gif


    I did not say all. I have two wonderful homosexual husbands I love, I'm a homosexual and I have love for myself too, and I have meet some wonder bisexual men in the past, and a few with issues. But they have had wives too.

    Interesting can also be interpreted as entertaining.

    The reasion many women have their hens nights at gay clubs, is because they find gay men interesting.icon_razz.gif
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    muchmorethanmuscle saidSpeak for yourself. Not all homosexuals judge others. I find bisexual people, transvestites and heterosexuals interesting. icon_razz.gif


    Oh One always speaks for myself, and up for others too.icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 28, 2009 7:37 AM GMT
    matey saidhow in the hell are you able to expect, demand other communities to be accepting and tolerant of the homosexuality, and it's diversity, and too open their hearts to us, when you are not able to do it for your own?


    People get caught up in themselves and require the comfort provided by moral superiority - it's a great pick-me-up, like seeing someone who's fatter than you.

    Having said that, it's a lot easier to point a finger at someone and say "Look at what they're doing!!" than to try to rectify your own faults. My problem with homophobia is that homosexuals are no more deviant than heterosexuals, and the sole reason for discrimination almost invariably comes down to religious zealotry.

    You have no right to impose your faith upon me - I am my own man, and a good one at that. Somewhat proud, but I try to temper that.

    Now, if all homosexuals were child-molesting rapists I'd probably be inclined to think otherwise, but...that's not the case.
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    matey saidhow in the hell are you able to expect, demand other communities to be accepting and tolerant of the homosexuality, and it's diversity, and too open their hearts to us, when you are not able to do it for your own?


    People get caught up in themselves and require the comfort provided by moral superiority - it's a great pick-me-up, like seeing someone who's fatter than you.

    Having said that, it's a lot easier to point a finger at someone and say "Look at what they're doing!!" than to try to rectify your own faults. My problem with homophobia is that homosexuals are no more deviant than heterosexuals, and the sole reason for discrimination almost invariably comes down to religious zealotry.

    You have no right to impose your faith upon me - I am my own man, and a good one at that. Somewhat proud, but I try to temper that.

    Now, if all homosexuals were child-molesting rapists I'd probably be inclined to think otherwise, but...that's not the case.


    I do not see myself as being perfect, and I've already stated I'm not accepting of all things gay either. But My heart is not full of hate for those diffrent to me either, or who stand on the other side of the fence politically; albeit I sit on that fence,and have no allegiance to either side.

    I mix with heterosexuals, and right wing Christians too. I don't always agree with them, nor them with I. All my Christain friends think my sexuality is a choice, and I've made the wrong choice. I don't agree with them, but I don't get upset with them either, because I'm secure in myself and my sexuality.

    But I am able to piss straights and christians off too. But I don't attack them, I just don't always agree.

    I have just done a thread on facebook, talking about my sexuality, and most of my friends on facebook are straight, but not all. I know I have upset a few people, but I did not say what I said to attack, I said it to open up discussion.

    Red calmed the only time I talk positive is about myself. Not true, in fact in many ways I do myself an injustice. But I'm able to do this because I don't come to the net for acceptance.

    The root of this thread is from experiences I've had here at RJ, and I've found many to be unaccepting, and abusive too. But I've also had many experiences in the gay community outside of the net too, some good, and some not.

    But the forums are for discussion, and debate, and I love tho throw things out there and too chew on the fat.
    some wold even like to fob me off as self loathing, to help them deal with the issue at hand. But I have love for myself, and no issues about my sexuality.

    I am truly at peace with myself, and so grateful the sun of good fortune has shined down on me and my life, and I'm so loved by two wonderful men, and live a life of privilege.
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    Jul 28, 2009 9:22 AM GMT
    The wider community is full of conflicts. Why would you expect the gay community be any different?
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    Jul 28, 2009 9:24 AM GMT
    Oh, and it's 'communities', not 'communitys'.

    And it's 'diverse', not 'divers'.
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    Jul 28, 2009 9:25 AM GMT
    matey saidhow in the hell are you able to expect, demand other communities to be accepting and tolerant of the homosexuality, and it's diversity, and too open their hearts to us, when you are not able to do it for your own?


    being able to open your heart to someone means you are open to rejection yet open to the possibility of something much greater as well. That takes courage. Most people walk thru life placing labels and dropping people and things in categories to make themselves feel comfortable as it gives them a understanding of who this person is by there own definition. Opening yourself to someone is letting them explain who they are by their own definition and excepting them for who she or he says they are by how they value self and isn't it much easier to except people on your own terms!
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    matey saidhow in the hell are you able to expect, demand other communities to be accepting and tolerant of the homosexuality, and it's diversity, and too open their hearts to us, when you are not able to do it for your own?


    being able to open your heart to someone means you are open to rejection yet open to the possibility of something much greater as well. That takes courage. Most people walk thru life placing labels and dropping people and things in categories to make themselves feel comfortable as it gives them a understanding of who this person is by there own definition. Opening yourself to someone is letting them explain who they are by their own definition and excepting them for who she or he says they are by how they value self and isn't it much easier to except people on your own terms!


    You know when I first come out I was fighting labels, why was it that now I'm seen as a homosexual, people now look at me differently, when I'm still the same person. Why cant I just be seen as me, a man, a male, an Aussie, and not just a homosexual.

    Then when I got involved in the homosexual community, I found even more labels. leather Queen, Bears, and cubs, queens, and flamers, all words/ labels, I was to learn from the gay community. I also learned over time to accept these labels, and now use them.

    We now have GLBT, we did not have this while I was young. But I find the bisexuals the most confused, about this, certainly the ones who hid behind a wife, and appeared to be straight, and received the benefits of a straight guy. Then They come out, and they want to stand under the banner of gay, and not bi? But they are bisexual, because a gay guy would never have a wife, and have never had the respite, of appearing to be a straight guy with a wife and kids. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being bi, I have had some wonderful relationships with bi men.

    Oh and yes I'm open to rejection, and the abuse that comes with it. But my heart is not always full of hate for the abuser either.
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    How's that christmas in july thread that nobody was replying to going?

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    Jul 28, 2009 11:20 AM GMT
    I'm all for diversity, Matey, but I'm shocked by this interracial dating!

    I mean, look at you: Dogs and Cats living together? Mass hysteria!