A CUTE MORMAN COMETH TO MY DOOR

  • HndsmKansan

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    Aug 01, 2009 3:56 PM GMT
    I knew something was up a bit ago as I drove back to my house after getting gas for my lawnmowing efforts later today.... there was a car full of people,
    dressed for Sunday morning services. Its probably some church.
    I got my gas container out of my 4x4 and shut my garage door. A few minutes later my doorbell rings.

    I wasn't going to answer, but I needed to go out front anyway. There on my porch was a very cute, blond 20 (approximately) year old guy. I said hello
    and he said, "I want to talk to you about your religious views and invite you to consider attending our church"

    Chris: "And what is your church"?

    Cute Morman (ignoring the question) "We are challenging you to expand your beliefs and values by considering what we might have to offer".

    Chris: "I attend an episcopal church in Wichita and am happy with it"

    Cute Morman (ignoring my response) "What do you believe, I'd like to hear
    one thing that makes you a devoted Christian".?

    Chris: "I said I'm happy with what I choose to do"

    Cute Morman: "Name one thing that would make you go to church there"?
    "We can challenge you to take you to a new place".

    Chris (ready for the pounce): "Well I'm sure I could take you to a new place as well (LOL), but I doubt if my bf and I could have a blessing at your church. I grew up in my church, I'm happy with it and I'm not changing a thing....

    Astonished Morman: (speechless) Oh Ok, have a good day.

    I smiled and wished him one too. He walked down my walked, turned around and looked at me a couple of times and walked down my driveway.

    I wonder if he learned something today.
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    Aug 01, 2009 4:02 PM GMT
    I think what you said to him went in one ear and out the other.

    I find religious people,unable to break away from their own personal take on what the "BOOK" says ....... especially the ones who run around on a Sunday trying to convert others with their message.

    Walking away, be probably was crafting a robotic response in his head to the things you said, so that the next time he's confronted with it, he has a tidy convenient rebuttal.

    I'm happy you didn't come across as mean and angry. It would have given him more reason and fodder for him to think you need his saving graces.
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    Aug 01, 2009 4:24 PM GMT
    Yes the Mormons are cute.

    I had two approach me at the bus stop one day one was a 6 ft blond blue eyed guy( not my type but cute) and the other was a 5'10 brown hair brown eyed deaf guy(My type!!! ). They asked me if I had a religion and I told them I was an Atheist(Big mistake) They would not leave me alone about,but they finally cought on that I was getting annoyed and that my bus was coming. The cool thing is is that we are both good friends with the same family icon_smile.gif

    I was going to go to church with one of my Mormon friends(girl) but then she told me that at the end of their little service the boys and girls get split up and go to separate rooms. I don't do well around other guys so I didn't go icon_sad.gif

    Her cousin is extremely good looking though. He played the Tuba in band lol
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    Aug 01, 2009 5:24 PM GMT
    He's obviously a neophyte if he let your soul get away that easily! icon_lol.gif
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    Aug 01, 2009 8:01 PM GMT


    They come to our door. I'm usually the one that gets to answer. That Bill. Grrr.
    He says I handle them better.

    I'm usually nice until they get to thwacking that bible of theirs. lol. Then I tell them this is a house of the damned, in a reasonable and happy fashion.
    I tell them Bill and I are married.

    It's the Jehovah's Witnesses that are usually more freaked out. The Mormons up here try to be hip. Bill hides in the shrubbery and snickers.


    -Doug
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    Aug 01, 2009 8:11 PM GMT
    Ladder Days?

    haha nice, maybe you brought the hidden gay out of him and the only way to cope was to walk way *cough* hide his erection* cough*
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  • captproton

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    Aug 01, 2009 8:14 PM GMT
    Reminds me of that awesome scene in "Latter Days" when the two Mormon boys go up to a house in Pasadena.

    A 40-ish guy answers the door and before he proceeds to engage the kids in conversation, he asks his spouse to join him.

    A tall, younger and very muscular guy shows up next to the older guy wearing only a towel. Priceless.

    There are Mormons living and proselytizing here all the time. Funny, I never thought of Oregon as going to hell, but whatever.
  • jlly_rnchr

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    Aug 01, 2009 8:26 PM GMT
    I've never been approached by Mormans here in Jersey. It's exclusively Jehovah's Witness territory when it comes to the recruitment circuit.

    I actually had never met a Morman until I went to college and was good friends with this guy for two years before he had to drop out of school for his mission. I heard he got married as soon as he got back two years later.

    Sidenote: He and other Mormans I knew in school never adhered to all of their suspicious policies. They drank liquor and Mt. Dew and Pepsi like everyone else. It's a shame that so many are quite liberal with their practices, but their church won't adapt.
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    Aug 01, 2009 8:27 PM GMT
    I discovered my former wife had been seduced by Mormons. I had given her complete control of my 6-figure income when we were together, which I never checked. Most of my male Army officer peers did the same. The household and the income were our wives' to manage, as we were too occupied with constant deployments and other stresses to worry about it.

    But when I started getting collection call notices at home on credit cards, that should have been paid, I looked into things myself. I found my wife was transferring large amounts of our cash to the Mormons, leaving us nothing for our own expenses.

    I put a quick stop to it, but I never completely recovered my losses, since I was close to retirement, when my full active duty income stopped. I hate the Mormons, not merely because of Prop 8 in California, but because I lost a considerable amount of my own money to their unscrupulous tactics. Don't even talk to me about Mormons.
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    Aug 01, 2009 8:33 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidI discovered my former wife had been seduced by Mormons. I had given her complete control of my 6-figure income when we were together, which I never checked. Most of my male Army officer peers did the same. The household and the income were our wives' to manage, as we were too occupied with constant deployments and other stresses to worry about it.

    But when I started getting collection call notices at home on credit cards, that should have been paid, I looked into things myself. I found my wife was transferring large amounts of our cash to the Mormons, leaving us nothing for our own expenses.

    I put a quick stop to it, but I never completely recovered my losses, since I was close to retirement, when my full active duty income stopped. I hate the Mormons, not merely because of Prop 8 in California, but because I lost a considerable amount of my own money to their unscrupulous tactics. Don't even talk to me about Mormons.


    should you not be blaming your ex wife instead?
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    Aug 01, 2009 8:42 PM GMT
    MadeNUSA saidshould you not be blaming your ex wife instead?

    I certainly do blame her to some extent. But who came to our door and exploited her? Who seduced and sold this apparently vulnerable woman a load of crap, in order to get their hands on my money?

    Lots of blame to go around, but the instigators were the Mormons. My wife didn't approach them. They came to our door while I was away, insinuated themselves into our home, took money from us without confirming it was OK with me.

    By their own doctrine I was in charge, as the husband and money earner. Yet they didn't consult me? They took money that I earned, by going through my wife, without my knowledge. How do their religious beliefs allow for that?

    Good questions, I would think. What do you think?
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    Aug 01, 2009 8:50 PM GMT
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    MadeNUSA saidshould you not be blaming your ex wife instead?

    I certainly do blame her to some extent. But who came to our door and exploited her? Who seduced and sold this apparently vulnerable woman a load of crap, in order to get their hands on my money?

    Lots of blame to go around, but the instigators were the Mormons. My wife didn't approach them. They came to our door while I was away, insinuated themselves into our home, took money from us without confirming it was OK with me.

    By their own doctrine I was in charge, as the husband and money earner. Yet they didn't consult me? They took money that I earned, by going through my wife, without my knowledge. How do their religious beliefs allow for that?

    Good questions, I would think. What do you think?


    Sorry, but I don't see it. The Mormons despicable as they are didn't hold a gun to your ex wife's head.
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    Aug 01, 2009 8:58 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan said

    Cute Morman: "Name one thing that would make you go to church there"?


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    Aug 01, 2009 9:10 PM GMT
    MadeNUSA: What happened to Red Vespa was a crummy, despicable thing. Stop trying to dilute the magnitude of it by focusing on the ex. Stop blaming the victims and focus on the perpetrators instead.
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    Aug 01, 2009 9:16 PM GMT
    LittleDudeWithMuscles saidMadeNUSA: What happened to Red Vespa was a crummy, despicable thing. Stop trying to dilute the magnitude of it by focusing on the ex. Stop blaming the victims and focus on the perpetrators instead.


    as soon as you get out of blaming others for your problems. there is such a thing as personal responsibility. i know this is the current ultimate taboo in america, but be that as it may - we are all personally responsible for our decisions.

    had the mormons held a gun to her head i would be first in line blaming them. they didn't. i can't and won't blame them
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    Aug 01, 2009 9:16 PM GMT
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    Sorry, but I don't see it. The Mormons despicable as they are didn't hold a gun to your ex wife's head.

    Of course they didn't. I believe they sat down with her and persuaded her with their arguments. I learned of this when I came home one day from my Army office, and found 2 Mormon women in our living room with her.

    They quickly left, but afterward I found several copies of the Book of Moroni in drawers around the house, and began to wonder what was going on. My wife had been a very dedicated Lutheran to that point, even insisted both our 2 sons be baptized Lutheran, which had upset my Roman Catholic parents a great deal when I agreed.

    When I started answering collection calls on the phone, I asked her why these bills weren't being paid. I certainly had enough money coming in. She gave me evasive answers, so I contacted my bank.

    I should mention that I was banking in Seattle at the time, near where we lived, and had a private banking account, that had been arranged by Bill Clinton's last Chief of Staff when he was Governor of Arkansas. He'd been the former President of the Bank of Arkansas, and a friend of mine with whom I often worked, so when I was stationed from Arkansas to Washington he contacted Joshua Green, then the CEO of BOA, and had a Vice President personally handle my banking there.

    So that when I inquired and found my banking account a shambles and in the red, I was furious. My money was all gone, and I learned it had gone to the LDS.

    I ordered that all payments to the LDS be blocked, and my wife's authority be terminated. As a result, I view the Mormons with the greatest personal hatred, aside from their anti-gay stance.

    Naturally I do not excuse my wife, but I'm convinced she did not initiate it. Rather, she was a gullible dupe of them. The real guilt resides with the Mormons, whom I do not excuse, and whose tactics we should all oppose.
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    Aug 01, 2009 9:21 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidI knew something was up a bit ago as I drove back to my house after getting gas for my lawnmowing efforts later today.... there was a car full of people,
    dressed for Sunday morning services. Its probably some church.
    I got my gas container out of my 4x4 and shut my garage door. A few minutes later my doorbell rings.

    I wasn't going to answer, but I needed to go out front anyway. There on my porch was a very cute, blond 20 (approximately) year old guy. I said hello
    and he said, "I want to talk to you about your religious views and invite you to consider attending our church"

    Chris: "And what is your church"?

    Cute Morman (ignoring the question) "We are challenging you to expand your beliefs and values by considering what we might have to offer".

    Chris: "I attend an episcopal church in Wichita and am happy with it"

    Cute Morman (ignoring my response) "What do you believe, I'd like to hear
    one thing that makes you a devoted Christian".?

    Chris: "I said I'm happy with what I choose to do"

    Cute Morman: "Name one thing that would make you go to church there"?
    "We can challenge you to take you to a new place".

    Chris (ready for the pounce): "Well I'm sure I could take you to a new place as well (LOL), but I doubt if my bf and I could have a blessing at your church. I grew up in my church, I'm happy with it and I'm not changing a thing....

    Astonished Morman: (speechless) Oh Ok, have a good day.

    I smiled and wished him one too. He walked down my walked, turned around and looked at me a couple of times and walked down my driveway.

    I wonder if he learned something today.


    flex89 / Logan does that when they coming knocking here, too. It's funny.

    Me, I'm not so nice. I tell them to vacate the premise, grab my phone and tell them I'm calling the police.

    HBO's Big Love series is a great take on Mormonism.

    The Mormons are very aggressive. When I lived in Mesa, AZ, they would put it on the jobs apps. I've been fired for not attending a prayer meeting (TRUE STORY). I was once evicted because I refused to be recruited by Mormons. They step WAY over the line. I've heard a number of horror stories about them raiding money from the likes of Logan's mom to Howard Hughes.

    False belief systems have always, and will continue, to make folks crazy.
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    Aug 01, 2009 9:23 PM GMT
    I was raised Mormon--I know all the ways to freak them out good icon_biggrin.gif

    My mom growing up was the stereotypical LDS housewife: a lazy, unemployed credit card addict who would spend to the limit, then proceed to empty all bank accounts up to the overdraft limit, spending money my dad didn't have on membership tithing, "temple taxes", supplies for the Mormon home maker's class she ran, and McDonalds.
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    Red_Vespa said
    MadeNUSA said
    Sorry, but I don't see it. The Mormons despicable as they are didn't hold a gun to your ex wife's head.

    Of course they didn't. I believe they sat down with her and persuaded her with their arguments. I learned of this when I came home one day from my Army office, and found 2 Mormon women in our living room with her.

    They quickly left, but afterward I found several copies of the Book of Moroni in drawers around the house, and began to wonder what was going on. My wife had been a very dedicated Lutheran to that point, even insisted both our 2 sons be baptized Lutheran, which had upset my Roman Catholic parents a great deal when I agreed.

    When I started answering collection calls on the phone, I asked her why these bills weren't being paid. I certainly had enough money coming in. She gave me evasive answers, so I contacted my bank.

    I should mention that I was banking in Seattle at the time, near where we lived, and had a private banking account, that had been arranged by Bill Clinton's last Chief of Staff when he was Governor of Arkansas. He'd been the former President of the Bank of Arkansas, and a friend of mine with whom I often worked, so when I was stationed from Arkansas to Washington he contacted Joshua Green, then the CEO of BOA, and had a Vice President personally handle my banking there.

    So that when I inquired and found my banking account a shambles and in the red, I was furious. My money was all gone, and I learned it had gone to the LDS.

    I ordered that all payments to the LDS be blocked, and my wife's authority be terminated. As a result, I view the Mormons with the greatest personal hatred, aside from their anti-gay stance.

    Naturally I do not excuse my wife, but I'm convinced she did not initiate it. Rather, she was a gullible dupe of them. The real guilt resides with the Mormons, whom I do not excuse, and whose tactics we should all oppose.


    i empathise with you, for your loss. but i still cannot blame them.

    suppose she had spent you money at prada and armani and tiffany? would you blame them as well?

    you wife was an adult and she made the decision, I'm assuming here that she was of sound mind and body...
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    Aug 01, 2009 9:32 PM GMT
    MadeNUSA said as soon as you get out of blaming others for your problems. there is such a thing as personal responsibility. i know this is the current ultimate taboo in america, but be that as it may - we are all personally responsible for our decisions.

    had the mormons held a gun to her head i would be first in line blaming them. they didn't. i can't and won't blame them[/quote]




    Actually, what they did was worse than holding a gun to her head. Instead, they pummeled her with fear and hysteria. Basically they told her that she was damned. And that her eternal salvation was in danger. Either follow them -- and, in this case, send all your money -- or expect God's wrath.

    All that, of course, while waving the Book of Mormon or the Bible or some other piece of outlandish crap in her face.

    It's astounding to me how you go out of your way -- quite unnecessarily -- to stomp on a victim. That, it seems, is the whole point of your posts.

    If only you could work up half as much rage against the people who perpetrate such indecency.



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    Aug 01, 2009 9:36 PM GMT
    I've experienced The Mormons first hand with the job, the place to live, and at my door.

    I've heard so many horror stories from red_vespa, Logan's mom, to my own, to Howard Hughes.

    The best defense we have against belief systems (whichever one they are), fear mongering, and conformance theory is to think clearly. Humans, it seems, are often incapable.
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    Aug 01, 2009 9:44 PM GMT
    Mormon membership = 10% of your income, but may also include 10% of what you spend on everything, 10% of your bills, and 10% of your 10%. What gets stuck with the extra 10% depends on who you talk to and who's skimming a little extra off the top, but, in general, it's just 10% of your income.

    One of the worst beliefs the LDS church pushes is your income will grow larger if you pay your tithes. It's utter bullshit and a lot of people interpret that as "if I pay my tithing, I can spend more" as it is reflected in a lot of Mormons' spending habits.
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    Aug 01, 2009 9:56 PM GMT
    Have always considered missionary work as a form of genocide - cultural genocide - and as such should be outlawed!
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    Aug 01, 2009 9:58 PM GMT
    LittleDudeWithMuscles saidMadeNUSA said as soon as you get out of blaming others for your problems. there is such a thing as personal responsibility. i know this is the current ultimate taboo in america, but be that as it may - we are all personally responsible for our decisions.

    had the mormons held a gun to her head i would be first in line blaming them. they didn't. i can't and won't blame them




    Actually, what they did was worse than holding a gun to her head. Instead, they pummeled her with fear and hysteria. Basically they told her that she was damned. And that her eternal salvation was in danger. Either follow them -- and, in this case, send all your money -- or expect God's wrath.

    All that, of course, while waving the Book of Mormon or the Bible or some other piece of outlandish crap in her face.

    It's astounding to me how you go out of your way -- quite unnecessarily -- to stomp on a victim. That, it seems, is the whole point of your posts.

    If only you could work up half as much rage against the people who perpetrate such indecency.

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    oh get over your faux sense of outrage bull shit! it is misplaced!
    right winged and other christians tell gay people and everyone else that they are damned! do you fork over your money to them? lay down and die?

    enough with the victim mentality crap.

    i'm outraged that you continue to perpetrate this absolute sin of not accepting responsibility for your actions. there must always be someone else to blame. no wonder the damn country is going to hell in a hand basket.
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    MadeNUSA said i'm outraged that you continue to perpetrate this absolute sin of not accepting responsibility for your actions. there must always be someone else to blame. no wonder the damn country is going to hell in a hand basket.

    Are you and musclequest cousins or something?


    who is musclequest?