fat burners

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    Dec 02, 2007 12:44 AM GMT
    lecithine, carnitine, cla(congugated linoleic acid) have you ever used them.what were the results?
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    Dec 02, 2007 5:21 AM GMT
    only one I've heard of his carnitine, and green tea is more effective than that...which isn't saying much.

    Go get some ephedrine hcl. way better.
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    Dec 02, 2007 6:05 AM GMT
    A friend recommended using CLA. Been taking it since September; it's one part of my overall weight loss regimen (change in diet, cardio & weights, supplements, etc.)

    I'm not entirely sure how effective it is, only using it for 3 months. I have lost 15 pounds since i've started taking it, but that's in tandem with all the stuff i'm doing to lose weight.

    i'll be interested in what other replies you get.

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    Dec 02, 2007 10:18 AM GMT
    Ive been using Hydroxycut Hardcore since the end of May. Been working out at least 3 times a week (at least 2hrs of Cardio each time), light weght lifting lots of reps, and just watching what I eat and have gone from a 42in waist to now 36. I used to weigh over 285lbs and now Im at 240. Kick ass is all I have to say and I would recomend it to anyone. Stay away from Lipo 6! It also breaks down muscle tissue.
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    Dec 02, 2007 11:47 AM GMT
    The three fat burners I have had the most success with are running, swimming and biking.
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    Dec 02, 2007 3:06 PM GMT
    Neither CLA nor lecithin have any scientific basis to be thought to be fat burners.

    Indeed both them are fatty acids, with different structure and some of them binded to some phosphorous. Moreover, CLA isn't a natural fatty acid and our organism has lots of problems to metabolize it, and there are some studies that suggest CLA has carcinogenic effects.

    On the other hand, theorically carnitine is effective to decrease body fat levels. Carnitine is needed to start de betaoxidation process, that's the fat-burning process in our cells. But the one that has the key factor is not the carnitine, but the carnitine palmitoyltransferase system (CPT system), that catalizes the binding reaction between carnitine and the fatty acids. The levels of CPT can not neiter be increased nor decreased nowadays, and despite taking a lot of carnitine, if our CPT system is saturated it can not work faster.

    In conclusion, this kind of suplements are just wallet-cleaners.

    I do agree with:
    webinfrontThe three fat burners I have had the most success with are running, swimming and biking.
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    Dec 02, 2007 6:53 PM GMT
    I pretty much agree with everything that was said. Cardio and diet is the best fat burner...period. All the other things are okay to supplement with, but I wouldn't ever say to rely or depend on them. The studies always go both ways, one praising it, and then the other saying it doesn't do anything. lol.

    Don't even get me started on Hydroxycut though. I think it is awesome that you are getting closer and closer to your weight goal ryan andrew. Just know that it is because of your own hard work, not the pills. It is basically a glorified energy pill. I take mine in the form of a Monster low sugar energy drink before the gym. ;) Nothing in Hydroxycut is even remotely close to a "fat burner", except the caffeine, which is always debated over. Since when did alpha lipoic acid burn fat? lol. Last time I checked, it was a fat soluble antioxidant.
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    Dec 02, 2007 7:14 PM GMT
    you say alpha lipoic acid (ala). i say congugated linoleic acid (cla). they are not the same thing.but you are right about ala.
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    Dec 02, 2007 10:10 PM GMT
    You might want to try some "natural fat burners" such as peppers from the Capsicum family. The capsicin (which causes the burning initially but then does not as it doesn't regenerate the reaction in the uptake)is a wonderful chemical which both speeds up metabolism AND lowers body temperature. Like oninons though, it can produce unpleasant digestive effects if taken in abundance or by those whose bodies aren't used to it. If you want a safe and natural way to shed some pounds, try working some paprika into your dishes! icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 02, 2007 10:15 PM GMT
    T3

    Intervals

    Moderate fat diet, moderate to low carb diet, high protein diet, increased muscle mass.
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    Dec 02, 2007 11:07 PM GMT
    To follow up on what Jackal said.

    You can get Cayenne pepper in pill form. It is a fine thermogenic that I take to keep my feet warm in winter (I live in Buffalo, NY for some reason) but the fat burning is an added bonus. It comes in two strengths 40k HU (heat units) and 100k HU. Please, for the love of god, start with the 40k or your stomach will be on fire! Unless of course you come from one of those cultures that has ridiculously spicy foods.

    Bitter Orange is another thermogenic that is in most fat burning pills.

    What I like about them is that they are not loaded with caffeine. Many fat burners have Gotu Kola or Green Tea in them which are great if you want to stay up all night.

    Nature's Way brand is cheap and descent quality if you want to give it a try.
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    Dec 03, 2007 12:15 AM GMT
    wow, thanks for all the tips! i was just researching which fat burning pill i should start taking. I am glad i read this article as it has certainly saved me some cash.
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    Dec 03, 2007 1:01 AM GMT
    low carb-high protein hmmm it is atkins.it shouldnt be done for a long time.it is cancerogen.and also the people who have kidney or liver problems cant do a low carb-high protein diets.it tires those organs.by the way bodybuilding is really difficult for people who have kidney and liver problems.
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    Dec 08, 2007 3:00 PM GMT
    While I do have to agree that running, swimming and cycling are among the three best fat burners, (swimming for sure as I used to be a swimmer) I know that there are some products that work. I used to use ripped fuel back in the day when I was swimming and amazing results slowly but amazing. Now Im using Hydroxycut Hardcore and kick ass is all I have to say. Eatting right, Working out with lots of Cardio, Lots of Water, and a little boost is alright with me.
  • Artesin

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    Dec 28, 2007 4:48 AM GMT
    Considering Gillian mckeith, an english nutrionalist, can get people to lose 2-4 stone within 8 weeks of just a change in diet and minimal cardio exercise I would think that is the best way to lose weight ~, although you might not put on that much mass definition would be heightened me thinks.

    I use soy lecithin granules in my protein shakes every morning and bread when I decide to make it. I didn't know it had anything to do with burning fat but obviously it could never hurt.
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    Jan 06, 2008 12:31 PM GMT
    they dont tend to have much of an effect over and above what you can achieve naturaly through a calorie deficit at a sensible level and hydration.

    At best the body will burn 2 lbs a week once in a steady fat loss mode ie past the initial glory weeks when ya first start and it falls off. That equates to 500 calories a day deficit. Fat burners can account for some of this but then you are paying money for say 2 bananas you need not have eaten in the first place.

    On thing you should pay attention to when on fat loss goals tho is your calcium intake, calcium is an important aspect of the metabolic process as it enables you to efficiently release the energy from food. SO many overlook this and if drinking milk then yuo get the added benefit of the protein for muscle repair.

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    Jan 11, 2008 3:33 AM GMT
    webinfront saidThe three fat burners I have had the most success with are running, swimming and biking.


    Definitely. Jogging kicks a@@ for getting that washboard stomach.


    In regards to fat burners it is hard to guage their efficacy because most of the time people are also doing a lot of cardio/lifting with them so we dont know what, if any, effect they have on the actual weightloss process.

    I do know that when Ripped Force was legal which contained ephedra and caffeine, I sweat 10 times more than without it with just anaerobic workouts. Only problem is how bad are these products for adrenals and heart health.
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    Jan 16, 2008 2:47 AM GMT
    Thermogenics or fat burners of course will enhance your results but a person still has to diet and exercise. I use Lipo6 or The Burn from time to time and they do work.