Bench Press vs Dumbell Bench Press

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    Aug 02, 2009 12:12 PM GMT
    What do I get from each oneicon_question.gif Which is the better one?
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    Aug 02, 2009 12:27 PM GMT
    Both are good. You should not do one and not the other.

    Flyes work a better range of movement. If you do them correctly.

    Bench builds huge chest. Always has always will. If you want a strong chest, bench. Size follows strength. But flyes are a great secondary movement to bench. But bench always has and always will be the first basic exercise to building chest. Dips are huge also. Dips are great for developing chest. Then flyes...
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    Aug 02, 2009 2:47 PM GMT
    JeffShooter saidBoth are good. You should not do one and not the other.

    Flyes work a better range of movement. If you do them correctly.

    Bench builds huge chest. Always has always will. If you want a strong chest, bench. Size follows strength. But flyes are a great secondary movement to bench. But bench always has and always will be the first basic exercise to building chest. Dips are huge also. Dips are great for developing chest. Then flyes...


    im confused, are you referring to flyes as dumbbell bench ?

    or is this some thing different?
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    Aug 02, 2009 2:49 PM GMT
    So what portion of the chest do dips work on? is it the whole, upper, or lower?

    Do dips work as effectively as bench press? Do I need a spotter for bench press?
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    So what portion of the chest do dips work on? is it the whole, upper, or lower?

    Do dips work as effectively as bench press? Do I need a spotter for bench press?
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    Aug 08, 2009 10:53 AM GMT
    I've heard this from numerous trainers, but would research for more of a definitive answer on this but: dumbell bench press is better than bar bench press.
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    Aug 08, 2009 11:14 AM GMT
    they are both good for differing reasons..

    barbell bench press requires less stabilising work, lets you push heavier weights.. bla bla bla

    Bumbbells, requires more stabilising with the shoulders, can't lift as heavy, but good because it lets a slightly different range of motion (good if you have certain problems with arms/shoulders/wrists)

    and with dips, lower
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    Aug 08, 2009 2:58 PM GMT
    kyleray saidDo I need a spotter for bench press?


    That depends.

    There are specific situations where a spotter is appropriate, but people who ask questions like "Bench Press vs Dumbell Bench Press: what do I get from each?, which is better?" are not ready for those situations

    Most people who need a spotter have bigger ego than muscle
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    Aug 09, 2009 1:25 AM GMT
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    kyleray saidDo I need a spotter for bench press?


    That depends.

    There are specific situations where a spotter is appropriate, but people who ask questions like "Bench Press vs Dumbell Bench Press: what do I get from each?, which is better?" are not ready for those situations



    That doesn't keep them from getting into those situations.
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    Aug 09, 2009 1:35 AM GMT
    "Most people who need a spotter have bigger ego than muscle."


    Really.






    Blanket statements, ya gotta love 'em.


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    Aug 09, 2009 1:43 AM GMT
    Do both. (And flyes). Being well-rounded will make you well-rounded.
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    Aug 09, 2009 1:51 AM GMT
    BENCH
    bench press + moderate to heavy weight + high reps = bigger size
    bench press + heavy to very heavy weight + low reps = strength

    My recommendation: when benching, throw a shit load of weight on their and get a spotter. Feel free to arch your back slightly. (ALWAYS have a spotter when doing heavy bench.) After you have come to failure (I mean absolute failure) decrease the weight by 50% and slam an extra 10-12 reps at a faster pace...the bench is a beautiful thing when use correctly.

    DUMB BELLS
    Dumb bells are good for overall shape and core stability. When using dumb bells, keep your back flat and abs tight, flex your chest as hard as possible at the top (can't do this with bench), hold for 2 counts, then down - the inside of your pecs should hurt a little. Because your arms are not connected by a bar, you are forcing yourself to stabilize your core...once your core is strong, you can focus on heavy/heavy weight on the dumbell. And careful not to bring your arms too low, shouldn't go past your chest too much.

    DIPS
    Regarding dips...dips are good as a secondary chest workout, not primary. End your chest workout with dips and you'll feel it all along the top of your chest. Make sure to lean forward..the further forward you are the more chest. If you keep it straight up and down then you will target triceps mostly, very little chest.

    FLYS
    Flys are great and I swear by them but you HAVE TO get a trainer to show you how to do them correctly if you are using heavier wieght. Light weight flys, no biggie. But anything over 50lb dumb bells requires a little guidance so you don't mess up your shoulder and rotator - just sayin'.

    PUSH UPS
    Never forget to do your push up...any and all versions of push ups are good. Switch it up and keep your muscles guessing.


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    Aug 09, 2009 1:56 AM GMT
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    kyleray saidDo I need a spotter for bench press?


    That depends.

    There are specific situations where a spotter is appropriate, but people who ask questions like "Bench Press vs Dumbell Bench Press: what do I get from each?, which is better?" are not ready for those situations

    Most people who need a spotter have bigger ego than muscle


    No offense, but this is very irresponsible advice regarding weight lifting. Regardless of the weight you are throwing around, if it makes you more comfortable to have a spotter, even for peace of mind, get one! I use one all the time, even curls. Maintaining correct form is half the battle.
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    Aug 09, 2009 6:09 AM GMT
    lilTanker saidthey are both good for differing reasons..

    barbell bench press requires less stabilising work, lets you push heavier weights.. bla bla bla

    Bumbbells, requires more stabilising with the shoulders, can't lift as heavy, but good because it lets a slightly different range of motion (good if you have certain problems with arms/shoulders/wrists)

    and with dips, lower


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    Aug 09, 2009 6:30 AM GMT
    One thing nobody has mentioned is wrist issues. I broke my wrist years ago (well, more like my hand snapped clean off, really), and I have tendon issues with barbell bench presses beyond certain weights. The reason is the way the bar restricts your wrist motion, and at the same time forces it into a slight "cocked outward" position on the lower part of the rep. Dumbbells don't have this problem, as they allow your wrists complete freedom of motion.

    Same is true for biceps curls and triceps presses. As a result, I've completely switched to dumbbells for everything. I don't miss the bar, and it hasn't prevented progress.

    I'm always leery of any blanket statement that says everyone should always do "xxx" because, well, it's just, like, well... obvious that's what you should do. There are plenty of guys with amazing chests that have never benched with a bar. There are some that never even use free weights either, just cables or machines. You'll always hear someone calling them a pussy cause they aren't doing the traditional manly man exercise, but when you hear that, you can put their advice in the bullshit bucket where it belongs.
  • danisnotstr8

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    Aug 09, 2009 7:54 AM GMT
    Incline press. with a spotter. It's the most difficult and rewarding exercise for your chest. And shoulders. too many people have a huge chest with no shoulders. just sayin'