Obama So Far...

  • t0theheights

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    Aug 03, 2009 5:27 PM GMT
    Considering that the country is slowly turning around after the complete DISASTER the Bush administration left Obama with, it absolutely amazes me how so many conservatives continue to insult him left and right on here. The man is a Harvard educated genius who accomplished more in a few short years than most people do in a life time. He and the democratic congress will not fix the country's problems overnight; no one could. Eight years of disastrous policy take time to overcome. Still, evidence shows that things are slowly moving in the right direction, at long last.

    It's amazing how conservatives were quick to jump to Bush's defense, blaming "Sept. 11" for every asinine move he and the republican congress made to bring this country down. Yet when Obama is handed a country in turmoil, he is called a failure for not snapping his fingers and magically making it all better overnight. The blatant, self-serving inconsistency is so obvious it's mind-numbing.

    All things considered, Obama is doing an excellent job so far, and I am thankful every day that he was elected instead of yet another knuckle-dragging republican neanderthal who thinks that tax breaks for the rich and the elimination of social services for the poor are the ways to solve the country's problems.
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    Aug 03, 2009 5:32 PM GMT
    i agree.....Americans were starting to believe he was superman...lol He has done a good job so far....I will vote for him next election term.
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    Aug 04, 2009 12:55 AM GMT
    Here Here (clap clap) . Obama' s heart and head is in the right place, He's focused. I just know it.

    It seems to me, that the Right is FURIOUS at every step he makes.
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    Aug 04, 2009 12:59 AM GMT
    t0theheights saidConsidering that the country is slowly turning around after the complete DISASTER the Bush administration left Obama with, it absolutely amazes me how so many conservatives continue to insult him left and right on here. The man is a Harvard educated genius who accomplished more in a few short years than most people do in a life time. He and the democratic congress will not fix the country's problems overnight; no one could. Eight years of disastrous policy take time to overcome. Still, evidence shows that things are slowly moving in the right direction, at long last.

    It's amazing how conservatives were quick to jump to Bush's defense, blaming "Sept. 11" for every asinine move he and the republican congress made to bring this country down. Yet when Obama is handed a country in turmoil, he is called a failure for not snapping his fingers and magically making it all better overnight. The blatant, self-serving inconsistency is so obvious it's mind-numbing.

    All things considered, Obama is doing an excellent job so far, and I am thankful every day that he was elected instead of yet another knuckle-dragging republican neanderthal who thinks that tax breaks for the rich and the elimination of social services for the poor are the ways to solve the country's problems.


    what evidence exactly? massive unemployment? socialization of private enterprise? a man who cannot deliver an off the cuff comment without 14 umm's, his back peddling on several issues, commenting on a local police force's actions without knowing the facts but assuming racism, the refusal of congress to pass his healthcare bill before summer, yes he's AMAZING. I am so thankful my family left the states for Canada.
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:02 AM GMT
    RST2009 said
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    I am so thankful my family left the states for Canada.


    Did they move there for the health care icon_wink.gif
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:03 AM GMT
    phemt said
    RST2009 said
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    I am so thankful my family left the states for Canada.


    Did they move there for the health care icon_wink.gif


    free land icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:07 AM GMT


    "free land"


    WHAT?!?

    LOL! Good lord, your current family or your ancestors?


    ..free land...my gorsh.....
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:08 AM GMT
    I am not singing his praises yet. I am disappointed with some of the things he has done/not done and am grateful for others. What surprised me and still does is that so many people thought he was going to be the greatest thing EVER. Reality is he is just a man, he is just a politician and he is just another DC player. Thats not an insult. Its just the way it is. Its easy for people to jump his shit, he was projected by the media and the left to be the messiah. Its hard to live up to that expectation and he hasn't. As far as the right jumping his shit, that is their job. That is how politics work. You make your opponent look bad at every opportunity. Thats the game guys!.
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:10 AM GMT
    meninlove said

    "free land"


    WHAT?!?

    LOL! Good lord, your current family or your ancestors?


    ..free land...my gorsh.....


    haha its been awhile, my mother is american, but her grandparents came to Canada for the free/cheap land out west. Her parents followed as did a lot of her family of that line. Still many rellos on the east coast and midwest of the US. OMG I guess that makes me halfer icon_eek.gif
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:13 AM GMT
    MattyR saidHere Here (clap clap) . Obama' s heart and head is in the right place, He's focused. I just know it.



    "The Road to Hell is paved with good intentions."

    I honestly don't see a lot of changes besides Gitmo being closed and all those guys either being brought to the US or sent back to their countries only to be shot as soon as we kick their asses out of the plane.

    I suppose the rest of the world doesn't hate us as much? Just because we elected someone different...

    But yeah, nothing really that big of a difference. And yes... its only been 7.5 months (~15% of the way through his 4 years) but no big changes.
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:15 AM GMT
    We (Canadians) had Jean Chretien in power as PM for a decade...we have no right to poke fun at the speaking traits of a foreign leader.
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:16 AM GMT
    RST2009 saidwhat evidence exactly? massive unemployment? socialization of private enterprise? a man who cannot deliver an off the cuff comment without 14 umm's, his back peddling on several issues, commenting on a local police force's actions without knowing the facts but assuming racism, the refusal of congress to pass his healthcare bill before summer, yes he's AMAZING. I am so thankful my family left the states for Canada.


    Wow, you could have just said "I have no idea what I am talking about" and made the same point.

    Massive unemployment was there before he took office and the rate of unemployment is slowing. What private enterprise has been socialized? He never claimed the police action was racist he said they acted "stupidly" and he has no healthcare bill in front of congress.

    So the best you got is that he uses "um" when speaking and the rather vague "back peddled on several issues".

    The rest of your claims wrong, uninformed or just crap.
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:16 AM GMT
    NoSuchPerson saidWe (Canadians) had Jean Chretien in power as PM for a decade...we have no right to poke fun at the speaking traits of a foreign leader.


    Jean had a physical impairment due to polio, Obama?
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:17 AM GMT
    Iam not 100% happy with Obama (I don't think I would be with anyone), but he is doing much better than McCain would be doing.
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:17 AM GMT
    I would like to see him take the lead on more things! DADT and not be afraid to insult these Neo-CONS. However, watching him from here locally through most of his political career, it's apparent he's playing chess while the simpletons are playing checkers!
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:19 AM GMT
    phemt saidIam not 100% happy with Obama (I don't think I would be with anyone), but he is doing much better than McCain would be doing.
    Or that yelping chihuahua Palin "gulp"
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:20 AM GMT
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    RST2009 saidwhat evidence exactly? massive unemployment? socialization of private enterprise? a man who cannot deliver an off the cuff comment without 14 umm's, his back peddling on several issues, commenting on a local police force's actions without knowing the facts but assuming racism, the refusal of congress to pass his healthcare bill before summer, yes he's AMAZING. I am so thankful my family left the states for Canada.


    Wow, you could have just said "I have no idea what I am talking about" and made the same point.

    Massive unemployment was there before he took office and the rate of unemployment is slowing. What private enterprise has been socialized? He never claimed the police action was racist he said they acted "stupidly" and he has no healthcare bill in front of congress.

    So the best you got is that he uses "um" when speaking and the rather vague "back peddled on several issues".

    The rest of your claims wrong, uninformed or just crap.


    FYI - who owns the auto and banking industries now? oh ya the govt. He blindly supported the black victim, which is tantamount to he himself being racist towards the white officer. Relax, this is an internet forum.
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:28 AM GMT
    RST2009 said FYI - who owns the auto and banking industries now? oh ya the govt. He blindly supported the black victim, which is tantamount to he himself being racist towards the white officer. Relax, this is an internet forum.


    So you really don't know what socialism is. Secondly the government owns neither the auto or banking industries as loaning money doesn't constitute ownership. In addition most the banking bailout was pre-Obama.

    I don't think he blindly supported a "black victim". He supported the rights of a property owner. Your claims are being racist towards the office are just stupid.

    Relax? I am not upset. Or do you mean "stop pointing out i have no idea what I am talking about"?
  • calibro

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    Aug 04, 2009 1:32 AM GMT
    actually, simply not messing up like bush isn't the same as succeeding. Yes, there have been things I have approved of Obama has performed, but for the most part I see nothing to write home about. True, I don't wake up every morning angry like I did with Bush, but to just because he's not screwing up royally doesn't mean he is doing a good job.
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:35 AM GMT
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    RST2009 said FYI - who owns the auto and banking industries now? oh ya the govt. He blindly supported the black victim, which is tantamount to he himself being racist towards the white officer. Relax, this is an internet forum.


    So you really don't know what socialism is. Secondly the government owns neither the auto or banking industries as loaning money doesn't constitute ownership.

    I don't think he blindly supported a "black victim". He supported the rights of a property owner. Your claims are being racist towards the office are just stupid.

    Relax? I am not upset. Or do you mean "stop pointing out i have no idea what I am talking about"?


    Well, I do agree you dont know what your talking about, the US and Canadian governments are now the majority shareholders in GM, the US govt owns 80% of AIG, just as an example from both industries. Hey its cool, you let Oprah pick your President, the power of the media is and has been very apparent for many years.

    So we have common ground on what Socialism refers to in my argument, any one of various theories of economic organization advocating state, public or common worker ownership. While Obama has not publicly decreed socialism as an economic policy, his actions of buying major stakes in private corporations, see examples above, does.
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:37 AM GMT
    I think there have been success and some let downs. I haven't been hung up on those as they are clearly inevitable. Overall I think things have been positive. He also get's credit for warning us in advance when he said "I will not be a perfect president.".

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    Aug 04, 2009 1:48 AM GMT
    RST2009 saidWell, I do agree you dont know what your talking about, the US and Canadian governments are now the majority shareholders in GM, the US govt owns 80% of AIG, just as an example from both industries. Hey its cool, you let Oprah pick your President, the power of the media is and has been very apparent for many years.

    So we have common ground on what Socialism refers to in my argument, any one of various theories of economic organization advocating state, public or common worker ownership. While Obama has not publicly decreed socialism as an economic policy, his actions of buying major stakes in private corporations, see examples above, does.


    So, AIG was bailed out by Bush not Obama. I am not arguing the governments ownership of some businesses but that is neither new, a long term situation nor socialism.

    The next time you copy and paste a definition from Wikipedia you may want to capture the whole sentence rather than a small part. You should also cite those sorts of things rather than plagiarize them.

    "Socialism refers to any one of various theories of economic organization advocating state, public or common worker ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and a society characterized by equal access to resources for all individuals with a more egalitarian method of compensation."

    The part you left out is with respect to government administration, distribution and the promotion of access to all individuals. This is clearly in no way the intent of the GM bailout.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Aug 04, 2009 1:50 AM GMT
    t0theheights saidThe man is a Harvard educated genius


    That would be debatable. Regardless, I'm taking a wait-and-see attitude about our President. So far I think he's made some good decisions, some not so much proving, thankfully, that he is only human with no magic wand.
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:51 AM GMT
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    RST2009 saidWell, I do agree you dont know what your talking about, the US and Canadian governments are now the majority shareholders in GM, the US govt owns 80% of AIG, just as an example from both industries. Hey its cool, you let Oprah pick your President, the power of the media is and has been very apparent for many years.

    So we have common ground on what Socialism refers to in my argument, any one of various theories of economic organization advocating state, public or common worker ownership. While Obama has not publicly decreed socialism as an economic policy, his actions of buying major stakes in private corporations, see examples above, does.


    So, AIG was bailed out by Bush not Obama. I am not arguing the governments ownership of some businesses but that is neither new, a long term situation nor socialism.

    The next time you copy and paste a definition from Wikipedia you may want to capture the whole sentence rather than a small part. You should also cite those sorts of things rather than plagiarize them.

    "Socialism refers to any one of various theories of economic organization advocating state, public or common worker ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and a society characterized by equal access to resources for all individuals with a more egalitarian method of compensation."

    The part you left out is with respect to government administration, distribution and the promotion of access to all individuals. This is clearly in no way the intent of the GM bailout.


    YAAAAAAAWN. K you win, I don't know what I'm talking. Have a nice night.
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:53 AM GMT
    RST2009 said

    YAAAAAAAWN. K you win, I don't know what I'm talking. Have a nice night.


    Taking your toys and going home so early?