Gay Bashing at a Sports Bar: What Do You Do?

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    Aug 04, 2009 1:45 AM GMT
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    Aug 04, 2009 1:54 AM GMT
    Interesting that it was a guy with an Obama hat who first stuck up for the guys
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    Aug 04, 2009 2:45 PM GMT
    I'm glad the country is changing in regards to sexuality. but I can't help wonder if in fact the reason some guys might find it "disgusting" is if the gay men were being"too much". I'm surprised by the outcome. However, I'd probably tell ANY couple (gay or not) to please get a room if they were getting too touchy (not the guys in the vid...that was just acting lol).
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    Aug 04, 2009 3:28 PM GMT
    There was one MAJOR flaw in this "experiment," purposely hiring an actor to play a homophobe to stir the pot. They should have just kept the two acting gay guys, and the acting straight couple. Then the outcome would be less contrived and maybe more realistic to what would happen.
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    Aug 04, 2009 3:46 PM GMT
    The experiment is further flawed by the setting. What gay couple would purposely go into a str8t sports bar in a small town in New Jersey? Not many and if did you better be to ready fight after that display.

    I also believe that if the couple was a couple of inches taller and had lets say 10 to 15 more pounds of muscle they naysayer’s would not have been as vocal. I betcha!

    That would be like an African American couple going into a bar with the Confederate flag waving in the wind. Just won't happen.

    Although the experiment was a good idea it was tooo controlled and just plain STUPID.
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    Aug 04, 2009 4:24 PM GMT
    Ducky45 saidWhat gay couple would purposely go into a str8t sports bar in a small town in New Jersey?

    Well, In my small town I go to the straight sports bar al the time. Because the nearest gay sports bar is 200 (or more) miles away. Also, the environment is generally more manageable, they're never actually watching the sports at the gay sports bar, just cruising..

    Ducky45I also believe that if the couple was a couple of inches taller and had lets say 10 to 15 more pounds of muscle they naysayer’s would not have been as vocal. I betcha!

    Assholes are asshole no matter who they're talking to. The man would assume (in the homophobes case) that the fags were to weak to take care of themselves no matter what they looked like. Trust me, I've been around redneck bumbkins my whole life.


    Although I agree there was to much control, take out the loudmouth and maybe you'll have a proper experiment.


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    Aug 04, 2009 4:26 PM GMT
    wrestlervic saidThere was one MAJOR flaw in this "experiment," purposely hiring an actor to play a homophobe to stir the pot. They should have just kept the two acting gay guys, and the acting straight couple. Then the outcome would be less contrived and maybe more realistic to what would happen.


    I agree, although it was still interesting to see how many came to the defense of, or generally supported, the gay couple.
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    Aug 04, 2009 4:32 PM GMT
    JC,

    I see your point havig been raised in city all mylife I have never had to travel more than 10 miles for entertainment.

    So the experiment just seemed rather staged and silly and an assult on my intelligence, knnow what I'm saying.

    I did like that one Jersey girl who when nuts on the actor. She and the other actor were the only ones who really said something. The others were just SHEEP on both sides of fense and that also is very alarming.
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    Aug 04, 2009 4:37 PM GMT
    I found this absolutely intriguing.....

    Thanks Trowel for putting this here.. I wish I knew where this video took place, what state.. what city.

    The reality is, things are changing. Could you imagine this just a decade or two ago.
    I think recent events, like the Matthew Shepard murder, "Prayers for Bobby" and more and more "average Joe's" know someone who is gay. I realize it depends on the location... but I think "tolerance" will be the norm more and more. It really makes you think.
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    Aug 04, 2009 4:46 PM GMT
    I was most disturbed by what the woman at the end had to say regarding the young gentleman who changed his outlook when interviewed. She called him the outcast and then proceeded to use the term "tolerance" to explain how America views gays and gay issues.

    I'm sorry, but WTF!!!!!! I don't want anyone to be tolerant of my lifestyle I want them to be ACCEPTING. Although tolerance is a step in the right direction. Acceptance is what people need to have for one another.
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    Aug 04, 2009 4:48 PM GMT
    I wish they'd do experiments like that here in Fayetteville, NC, home of the insecure over-bravado male.
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    Aug 04, 2009 4:57 PM GMT
    bsskate-

    I know what you mean. How big of you to tolerate me! You tolerate traffic, or standing in line for coffee or being put on hold by some inane clerk. We accept people for who and what we are, barring that we have not committed some heinous act against humanity or the planet. Anything short of that is like being treated like a step-child or second class citizen and that I will not tolerate.
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    Aug 04, 2009 5:01 PM GMT
    I don't like when anyone treats others like they are less of a person or whatever... However while more people are more accepting of gays and all, there are people who may be ok with it, but don't agree with it, and certainly don't want it put in their faces, and or around them so flamboyantly... There are gay men who are even put off by that kind of behavior as well... Not to mention don't find tolerance, or acceptance from even the gay world themselves.

    My buddies and I go to sports bars, a lot, especially after someone on our team won a fight, or we won a rugby match, there are two guys on our team who are gay, but they don't act like that, and everyone pretty much knows they are gay, and nobody cares, everyone respects them, nobody shuns them, sometimes people forget. And if anyone gave them any kind of shit, they'd have all of us to deal with. Unfortunately though people are always usually shocked, and surprised by it, because they don't behave nothing like the guys on that clip, which says most people expect, or see gays as being like that (a certain way), and I think that's pretty sad.

    Its just as ignorant as some white people I've come across who'd be all shocked and amazed that a black person wasn't into rap music, didn't dress "hip hop" or "didn't sound black".. That's the problem with stereotypes, and the people within the communities who make them stronger themselves... It allows the ignorant, and the hateful, to have more fuel.
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    Aug 05, 2009 1:48 AM GMT
    jprichva saidWasn't there a thread about this same clip around six months ago?

    Probably but I wasn't here. Some of the things in the video are kinda stupid. Like someone said, they shouldn't have people egging them on. I would be interested to see the reactions of people if they weren't two queeny guys too.