Do you think TV needs a MAJOR Overhaul?

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    Aug 04, 2009 7:21 PM GMT
    I think we've finally come to a point of TV being nothing more than garbage.

    1. We have reality show after reality show with the single goal of bitchy and unstable people placed in situations where they are forced to fight.

    2. The formula for any new TV drama seems to be either a crime/police show, or something hospital related.

    3. My god, The Nanny is still on at night, and Saturday's are now used for all-day infomercials.

    People may say that these shows are doing well because people are watching, but I tell people that if you are looking for something to eat, you'll settle for shit. My remote control gets more action than my cock does.

    How would you like to completely change the face of TV?

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    Aug 04, 2009 7:39 PM GMT
    The surge of reality TV shows was partly due to the various writers and actors strikes we've had over the years. It was just cheaper for the studios to tell the actors and writers to go away, and replace them with "reality" TV shows with non-actors and a director coaching the scenes/dialog.

    Most shows now are just rehashed versions of old shows. NBC has a show coming up called "Trauma" but it looks like a rip-off of "Emergency!" from the 70's. There's another show called "Southland". I really dig this show, but I feel that it's just a modern adaptation of "Adam-12". And there's another one called "Mercy" but it just feel like "ER" all over again.

    I don't know how I would change TV. I kinda like the mindless junk that's out there sometimes. But I think they need to focus on quality and not quality. Surprisingly, ABC has some good things. "Better Off Ted" is my new favorite show. And they have a new show coming up with Courtney Cox about cougars. There are a few other shows, but I can't remember them at the moment.
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    Aug 04, 2009 8:15 PM GMT
    I rarely have watched so-called entertainment shows, so I have little knowledge of this issue. That, despite the fact that one of my degrees is in TV & Radio Broadcasting, and I've been on air myself, though mostly radio.

    I've never watched a reality show, except to flip through it. My interests are news and informational, and old movies. I have watched a few more recent sit-coms, because of a gay interest and friends persuading me, Will & Grace and The Golden Girls being the 2 principle. I have watched a bit of QAF for its gay subject matter as well, and the original airing of Angels in America on HBO, for very personal reasons.

    Oddly, the original creators of television technology, which goes back to the 1920s, with the first US broadcasts in 1939, envisioned the medium as mainly a news and informational one, not entertainment. No doubt they were naive, because among the first regular programs in the US when TV resumed following WWII were the most dreadful entertainment crap. TV has never risen above it.
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    Aug 04, 2009 8:28 PM GMT
    FIrst thing to go..........

    REALITY SHOWS!!!!!

  • Webster666

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    Aug 04, 2009 8:29 PM GMT
    You need a combination of good writers and a good cast.
    What has happened is that comedy is no longer sophisticated and clever.
    It's aimed at the dumbest of the dumb viewers. Unfortunately, they out number the more intelligent viewers.

    The reality shows are pure dreck, aimed at people who get off on seeing other people arguing and fighting.
    American Idol is aimed at poor trash of all colors, although I know that a lot of highly intelligent people tune in regularly.
    Dancing with the Stars, I'll never figure out the popularity of that.

    Who Wants to be a Millionaire allowed everybody from the dumbest to the smartest to participate.
    Law and Order was a great combination of solving the crime and bringing the criminal to justice, often using real life crimes for material. And, I think that Sam Waterston held that show together.
    The Golden Girls was brilliant casting and brilliant writing.

    TV today is 95% dreadful and unwatchable.
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    Aug 04, 2009 8:48 PM GMT
    So true - I don't know what I would do if I didn't have the SyFy and Universalsports channel. Although Universal sports is begging to get on my last nerve

    What da hell is up with this constant beach volley ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!icon_evil.gif
  • Delivis

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    Aug 04, 2009 9:01 PM GMT
    It has been gradually getting an overhaul...i call it the in-ter-net. What do you think?
  • Timbales

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    Aug 04, 2009 9:06 PM GMT
    Reality shows are the modern day equivalent of the gladiatorial arena, people sitting comfortably and enjoying the misery and pain of someone else.
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    Aug 04, 2009 9:17 PM GMT
    I prefer a warm comedy myself.
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    Aug 04, 2009 9:18 PM GMT
    Delivis saidIt has been gradually getting an overhaul...i call it the in-ter-net. What do you think?



    I think you've got something there, and I'm not just talking about your hot bod. There are more devices coming out on the market so that people can pick and choose online content and play it on their TVs.

    The world will then be OUR oyster. Grrrrrr.
  • coolarmydude

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    Aug 04, 2009 9:21 PM GMT
    Perhaps you should watch less television. icon_idea.gif If it moves you to complain about content, then that alone should tell you something. You can't change television, but television can surely change you.
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    Aug 04, 2009 9:23 PM GMT
    I agree TV is getting crappier by the day, on the whole. I think it's getting more aggressive, always trying to "up the ante" to grab our attention and demand we purchase a product.

    So, instead of overhauling it, I'm trying to turn it off more. There's an interesting article somewhere on RJ from a life coach guy who notes we're often trying to "numb" ourselves when watching TV, and that rang very true for me.

    Instead of checking-out, being a potato, then getting pissed at myself for wasting time that I should have spent at the gym... I'm just turning the box off. It's tough though!
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    Aug 04, 2009 9:24 PM GMT
    coolarmydude saidPerhaps you should watch less television. icon_idea.gif If it moves you to complain about content, then that alone should tell you something. You can't change television, but television can surely change you.



    Actually, you can change TV. By not watching bad shows, and discussing it with programmers. That's why I brought it up.
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    Aug 04, 2009 9:35 PM GMT
    Three changes that could improve TV:

    1) Require reality show participants to either enrol in the TV actors union (AFTRA?), or be subject for the duration of the show to its contract. This will require the producers of these shows to at least provide some basic rights to contestants and stop prodding them into fights and other nonsense. "Amazing Race" seems to treat its contestants intelligently.

    2) Reinstate the public service requirement. Long ago all TV stations were required to produce some shows of educational or informational value. Tis was how we got "Omnibus", the NBC Symphon, and the Leonard Bernsein shows.

    3) Reintroduce the "equal time" requirement, so that broadcasters would have to put different viewpoints on the air.
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    Aug 05, 2009 1:54 AM GMT
    antelope said
    2) Reinstate the public service requirement. Long ago all TV stations were required to produce some shows of educational or informational value. Tis was how we got "Omnibus", the NBC Symphon, and the Leonard Bernsein shows.

    Yes, and then we can have the government telling us all about the glories of patriotic duty and communism.

    Truth is, there IS some good television out there, you just have to really look for it, and it's not usually on basic cable. My favorite at the moment is Dexter on Showtime. Dead Like Me was another good one that unfortunately was cancelled entirely too soon.
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    Aug 05, 2009 1:55 AM GMT
    wrestlervic said

    How would you like to completely change the face of TV?



    Have no more TV. As of 2007 I've completely abandoned it. If I want to watch something, I'll do it online. If it's not available online then I'll refuse to watch it. I've really not missed anything.

    I think TV is just now what FM radio is: top 40 and garbage. And usually both at the same time.
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    Aug 05, 2009 1:56 AM GMT
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    antelope said
    2) Reinstate the public service requirement. Long ago all TV stations were required to produce some shows of educational or informational value. Tis was how we got "Omnibus", the NBC Symphon, and the Leonard Bernsein shows.

    Yes, and then we can have the government telling us all about the glories of patriotic duty and communism.

    Truth is, there IS some good television out there, you just have to really look for it, and it's not usually on basic cable. My favorite at the moment is Dexter on Showtime. Dead Like Me was another good one that unfortunately was cancelled entirely too soon.


    Hey HotToddy, did you like "Six Feet Under"? I started watching it from the second season. What an amazing show. The characters were so rich. It was out of this world.
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    Aug 05, 2009 2:21 AM GMT
    I am watching Mad Men and Dollhouse right now. That is a two hour commitment out of my week. One more show would be an hour less I could read, jog, masturbate, or all three simultaneously.

    And that hour makes my life so much richer than the writers at HBO ever could.
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    Aug 05, 2009 2:26 AM GMT
    With thousands of channels to watch, there still is nothing good on. I don't bother anymore turning the tube on unless i search through the listings and see something good.

    The Travel channel, Discovery and National Geographic are good.....so is Judge Judy.

    90% of television shows are boring and don't interest me. People talk about various shows and characters and I have no clue what they are talking about.

    Scientists of the University of Chicago have lately detected something that looks like moss growing on the planet Mars. Perhaps Mars was once inhabited by beings like ourselves, who had the misfortune, some millions of years ago, to invent television.

    Robert M. Hutchins
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    Aug 05, 2009 2:34 AM GMT
    I totally agree. What's on TV anymore is pure crap. I don't even know what it's called "reality TV" anymore when it's the furthest thing from reality possible. Some chick from the Real Housewives of Orange County was just on the plane with me and there were like 15 cameras at the airport. Well, this island NEVER has that. Plus, the resort that picked her up never meets people with champagne and escorts, yet there they were. Reality my ass!!

    I like the "How'd They Do That" type of shows where I can actually learn something. The only entertainment show I'm looking forward to is GLEE.

    By the way, I just saw an ad for "Modern Family" on ABC coming this fall. It's about three families - I'm guessing reality. It caught my eye because one of the families is a gay couple who adopts a child. I thought that was quite the daring move by ABC for prime time.
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    Aug 05, 2009 2:41 AM GMT
    television is dead to me, they recently put child rip-offs of reality shows on CARTOON network. TV has been going downhill since i was a kid, but that was the very last straw
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    Aug 05, 2009 2:45 AM GMT
    The only shows on TV that I watch and are redeeming are:

    1. "Ruby" on Style: Follows the struggles of an awesome heartwarming woman go from 700 lbs to now under 350.

    2. "Intervention": follows families intervening with their loved ones addictions.

    3. "Desperate Housewives": Only new sitcome I watch. Every show has a moral, and I like Gabby and Carlos.

    4. "How's that Made": Cool to see stuff made and a great break from other channels. Calming.

    CNN now officially sucks, they repeat every story for days, and now they are becoming tabloid-like. Today's story, how Ryan O'Neil mistaked his daughter Tatem for being an adult woman and hit on her. Oh my, this is newsworthy?

    The people who run and proliferate TMZ simply need to die. A show that glories runnning up to people and making them look bad is certainly the bottom of the barrel. I am hoping someday to see vigilantes maim and murder paparazzi.
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    Aug 05, 2009 3:25 AM GMT
    I watch more TV than I probably show, but I am selective. We watch a lot of premium cable shows like Weeds, Nurse Jackie, True Blood, etc.

    We also watch some of the basic cable stuff like The Closer, Saving Grace, and In Plain Sight. These are really good shows that, while having a certain police procedural aspect, also have an overarching storyline and well-written characters.

    We do watch some fluff like American Idol, but I'm really against reality television. We tried to watch I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out of Here because Frangela was on it, but it didn't hold our attention.

    I really think reality television sucks. But, it's REALLY cheap to produce relative to other stuff.

    One of the things that pisses me of is when shows like Pushing Daisies gets canceled before it has a chance to build a good following. That show was so clever, original and well-written but even with 3 million people regularly tuning in, it get the boot. Same thing with Samantha Who.
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    Aug 05, 2009 4:49 AM GMT
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    antelope said
    2) Reinstate the public service requirement. Long ago all TV stations were required to produce some shows of educational or informational value. Tis was how we got "Omnibus", the NBC Symphon, and the Leonard Bernsein shows.

    Yes, and then we can have the government telling us all about the glories of patriotic duty and communism.

    Truth is, there IS some good television out there, you just have to really look for it, and it's not usually on basic cable. My favorite at the moment is Dexter on Showtime. Dead Like Me was another good one that unfortunately was cancelled entirely too soon.


    No, the governemtn did not produce TV shows then and would not produce public service programming, What we had was listenable radio, not right wing cranks and religious broadcasters.
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    Aug 05, 2009 6:13 AM GMT
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    wrestlervic said

    How would you like to completely change the face of TV?



    Have no more TV. As of 2007 I've completely abandoned it. If I want to watch something, I'll do it online. If it's not available online then I'll refuse to watch it. I've really not missed anything.

    I think TV is just now what FM radio is: top 40 and garbage. And usually both at the same time.


    Amen. I never got cable when I moved a year ago and it was a great thing. My tv is used for dvd's only.

    I would create the rule that for 20 years, no dramas can occur in any sort of medical facility or even vehicle.

    CSI can only have one program using those initials. All others must prove themselves as quality shows even without the branded title.

    A good reality show can have its place, but perhaps a fair ratio of programming types would be more appropriate so that there are options for everyone.

    Bring back the entertaining and successful game shows into some prime time slots. Wheel of Fortune is still doing great. Let's get some more.

    Fewer commercials and no commercials in the split screen format during closing credits of a show or movie. Crew members and even actors don't get recognition for a job well done if the channel is trying to promo it's new series coming up next. Rude.

    Whoever mentioned it, I'd love to see the Bernstein concerts on tv or a show of similar ideas. Many kids today go through life never seeing or hearing some of the greatest achievements man has accomplished... the arts!