How to deal with OCD?

  • phunkie

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    Dec 03, 2007 9:03 PM GMT
    I've always had it. Since childhood. I've always tried to use it for the better and learned a lot of things.

    Now...since i'm getting older and it feels like that my mind is getting saturated and unable to take more, how do i deal with it since its the start of my career. I feel like i'm still curious about a lot of stuff but kinda lost the drive.

    I'm just trying to find ways to spark curiosity in the areas that would really help me with my career.
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    Dec 03, 2007 9:20 PM GMT
    I live with an OCD. Are you taking any meds?
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Dec 03, 2007 11:08 PM GMT
    I've had it since childhood also, and it can be very debilitating. It was worse when I was young.

    The more you let it control you, the worse it gets. Don't let it take control. Relaxation techniques are good to help control it.

    I don't agree with taking meds for it. I was on meds most of my life, and I am very bitter about that because they held me back in life, and I have gained more control over it through exercise and relaxation techniques than any pill could do.

    If you ever find a cure, let me know.

    Take care.

    Mike
  • EricLA

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    Dec 03, 2007 11:10 PM GMT
    I grew up with a sister with OCD. She's on meds and in therapy. I know there are times she's more control than others. I know she'd rather not take the meds, but I know she feels in better control when she is taking them. Therapy also helps.
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    Dec 03, 2007 11:18 PM GMT
    Well first before one can answer or try to answer how to deal with OCD you need to be more specific.

    What kind of OCD do you suffer from? Is it obsession or compulsions or both? Is it more of a "i must wash my hands 3 times in a row now or else something bad will happen" or irrational thoughts continually playing over in your head and bothering you?
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Dec 03, 2007 11:29 PM GMT
    For me it is mostly wash my hands 3 times or something bad will happen. Although it would not be too bad if it was just 3 times, more like 10 times. But I also get the irrational thoughts to a lesser extent.

    Also let me point out to anyone reading my last post. My views on meds is just that, my view, and I am not telling anyone to stop there meds. They just did not work for me.

    Mike
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    Dec 03, 2007 11:46 PM GMT
    I am curious to hear how the meds held you back, MikePhil.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Dec 04, 2007 12:09 AM GMT
    They just numbed my body and my emotions. I just existed. I had no ambition to better myself. Also I used to wake up at night in a cold sweat. That used to scare me.
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    Dec 04, 2007 12:15 AM GMT
    Do you recall what you were taking?
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Dec 04, 2007 12:23 AM GMT
    Do I recall.

    Will I ever forget.

    Soroxat it is called here, but I think it has a different name in the US.
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    Dec 04, 2007 12:36 AM GMT
    Paxil -- a horrible drug but frequently prescribed for OCD. (My partner takes it.)

    I won't let my consulting psychiatrist put my clients on it unless nothing else works. Withdrawal from it is a nightmare for many people and weight gain seems more common with it than many other such drugs.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Dec 04, 2007 12:40 AM GMT
    Maybe that's what caused my weight problem.
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    Dec 04, 2007 12:42 AM GMT
    Honestly, I don't know anyone who has taken it who didn't gain weight. I took it myself and gained 15+ lbs. It literally took me six months to get off it.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Dec 04, 2007 12:46 AM GMT
    You shouldn't be telling me this. I will be eating all kinds of cake and stuff tomorrowicon_lol.gif
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Dec 04, 2007 10:01 PM GMT
    phunkie and OW your partner might like to try this (http://www.thelindenmethod.co.uk/)

    I got it and find it much better than pills. I haven't cured myself as this claims to do, but I have never used it as it is supposed to be used. The relaxation cd is great.

    I have no connection with this company what so ever, so don't think I am trying to make a sale.

    When you consider the price of pills, I think it is worth giving it a try.

    Mike
  • phunkie

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    Dec 05, 2007 7:13 PM GMT
    I've never taken any meds. I'm just not big fan of meds that "help" you cope with situations like these.

    I've like obsessions or compulsions...I just cannot stand if i touch raw meat (i wash my hands at least 5 times, until i can't smell it). Nobody enters my room because if one things moves even an inch....that becomes a nightmare for me. (i live in a house with a lot of kids)

    I've been using music to block out all the noise when i work but, lately it doesn't seem to be working. i'm just so aware of the surroundings that even if a paper sheet moves at the desk besides mine at work...i gotta look at it. Oh...and the waiting part...that is like hell for me. My weakest point always has been waiting. I get hyped easily. My mind never seems to switch off. People usually sleep after 15 minutes of lying down at night. It takes me more than an hour to go to sleep (Never took any sleeping pills either, and don't wish to).

    People have been telling me that i don't do much physical work, which i don't think is true because i walk a lot. Recently i joined the gym and that has helped me a bit.

    Mikephil
    I'm bitter without taking the meds. I avoid people just because i dont want to sound cold or be bitter to them. I've gotten better lately with that.
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    Dec 05, 2007 8:37 PM GMT
    Ok, well there are meds.
    I am only a psychology student, so . . .
    There are some ways to focus yourself and all but if it is controlling you and your days, there are psychologists that specialize in OCD treatments.
    I have a very mild form of OCD that can control some of my actions. What I do is try to fight it and repress it to learn to control it. If I can't then I just give in. (no use fighting an uphill battle that will just end in a minute or two if I give in)
    This is REALLY extreme, but there are lobotomies that can just about cure it 90% of the time.
  • fitnfunmich

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    Dec 05, 2007 8:47 PM GMT
    Phunkie: you have a serious case of OCD and most likely a coexisting anxiety disorder. You need to get evaluated and treated by a physician and stop listening to some of the advice on here from non-professionals. Their experiences are not nearly as valuable as all of the scientific studies regarding the treatment of this disorder.

    Everyone can have a few harmless obsessions or compulsions, but when they get in the way of your personal or professional life, then need to be treated with medications and probably psychotherapy as well.

    Call your doctor and get a proper medical evaluation soon! Best of luck.
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    Dec 05, 2007 8:52 PM GMT
    Yeah, best advice is to talk to a doctor no matter what.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Dec 05, 2007 9:50 PM GMT
    fitnfunmichPhunkie: you have a serious case of OCD and most likely a coexisting anxiety disorder


    OCD is an anxiety disorder.

    But reading phunkie,s last post, it does seem like he has a very serious case.

    What do you mean by the "waiting" phunkie?

    fitnfunmichEveryone can have a few harmless obsessions or compulsions, but when they get in the way of your personal or professional life, then need to be treated with medications and probably psychotherapy as well.


    I would not regard mine as a few harmless obsessions or compulsions. I used to spend half a hour or more just switching on and off a light when I was at my worst. Believe me, that has a major impact on you personal and professional life. Yes I am not a professional on this, but I know what I am talking about.

    Mike
  • phunkie

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    Dec 06, 2007 2:19 PM GMT
    By waiting I mean waiting for anything at all. whether its waiting for a friend, some thing to be over...i've gotta find something to do in that waiting period. if i don't i zone out...and the zoning out is as bad as awareness. People would say something to me and i will completely miss it. its like i'm living on two extremes. Though the awareness one is very very usual.


    Thank you all for whatever advise you've given, but i really want to avoid the meds...looks like theres no avoiding a doctor.
  • fitnfunmich

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    Dec 06, 2007 2:59 PM GMT
    What MikePhil said is partially true, in that OCD falls under the umbrella of Anxiety Disorders, but I suspect you may have a Generalized or Situational Anxiety Disorder in addition to OCD. These usually require high-dose medications to control.

    I realize you don't want to take meds, but you have to weigh the risks of side-effects vs. the risks of your untreated disorder. It sounds to me that your life is seriously disrupted by these symptoms, and I suspect you would have much more peace and happiness if they were controlled.

    (BTW, I am a health professional and I strongly urge you to go talk to your doctor, get some blood tests to rule out a thyroid disorder, etc., and be open to the idea of trying a medication.)
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Dec 06, 2007 11:38 PM GMT
    fitnfunmich, No disrespect, but from your first post I figured you were a health professional. My experience is that health professionals ie. doctors always want to put you on meds for things like this. What about drug free treatments first, and then maybe meds?

    I have to agree with you that there maybe another anxiety disorder there also.

    I hope you don't take offence from what I said. I don't know what kind of health professional you are, but I know health professionals do great work and I have great respect for them. I have had to see doctors many times and they have fixed me many times, so don't think I am trying to put you down.

    phunkie, I have a relaxation CD that I find great, and I could copy it and send it to you, if you like. I know you would have to put alot of trust in me with your address, but you can trust me. I don't know if I could send it by email in a file. I don't have broadband so I am not sure if it would work. Send me a mail if you want me to send it. At the very least it would help you to sleep.

    Mike
  • fitnfunmich

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    Dec 07, 2007 1:17 PM GMT
    No offense taken, MikePhil. Of course I always recommend lifestyle modifications and non-medicinal treatments if possible. I do think we live in a society where people want a pill to solve all of their problems instead of changing their habits.

    That being said, if your Dad came to me having chest pains, would you want me to tell him to go home and eat better and exercise, or would you prefer that I intervene with medications and possibly surgery to save his life?

    My point is that medications are sometimes a necessary part of healthcare, and I'm telling you the guy who started this post needs some serious help beyond just meditating and relaxing. Just like heart disease or diabetes, depression and anxiety disorders are very real illnesses, and some people need medications in order to lead a healthy life.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Dec 09, 2007 9:04 PM GMT
    I take your point, and of course I would want you to intervene with meds or surgery, but that's chest pain and you cant take any chances.

    I'm not against meds. I just think that they do very little for depression and anxiety. In some cases I think they make it worse. I read of a trial that was done where some patients were giving meds for depression and the rest exercised. Those that exercised had better results. Maybe in some cases they are needed to help the person cope.

    Mike