Gay's conviction for child abuse overturned after 21 years in jail

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    Aug 09, 2009 11:30 AM GMT
    Prosecutors had withheld video tapes from the defense and jurors that have now cleared him.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32341725/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
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    Aug 09, 2009 11:40 AM GMT
    Un-fucking-believable. I'm actually turned inside out by this article.
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    Aug 09, 2009 11:52 AM GMT
    He should sue them, or at least a civil suit against the original prosecutor.


    I personaly would like to see him (procecutor) held accountable for witholding evidence.


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    Aug 09, 2009 11:54 AM GMT
    I hope he sues the county until it goes into bankruptcy. Fuck them
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    Aug 09, 2009 12:46 PM GMT
    21 years. Just like that.

    Fuck.
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    Aug 09, 2009 1:55 PM GMT
    Just another horrible reminder of how ignorant and naive the public can be. The obvious tunnel vision and stereotyping in this case is appalling. Contrary to everything we hear on the subject, gay mean are actually LESS likely to sexually abuse a child. From our friends at the ACLU...

    There is no connection between homosexuality and pedophilia. All of the legitimate scientific evidence shows that. Sexual orientation, whether heterosexual or homosexual, is an adult sexual attraction to others. Pedophilia, on the other hand, is an adult sexual attraction to children. Ninety percent of child abuse is committed by heterosexual men. In one study of 269 cases of child sexual abuse, only two offenders were gay or lesbian. Of the cases studied involving molestation of a boy by a man, 74 percent of the men were or had been in a heterosexual relationship with the boy's mother or another female relative. The study concluded that "a child's risk of being molested by his or her relative's heterosexual partner is over 100 times greater than by someone who might be identifiable as being homosexual, lesbian, or bisexual."


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    Aug 09, 2009 2:06 PM GMT
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    Aug 09, 2009 2:56 PM GMT
    I hope they make a specultical, and ruin the lives of his accusers, and on that note, Michael Jackon's "accuser" should be turning 18 or over soon. It's time for the cameras to HAMMER those people.
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    Aug 09, 2009 5:22 PM GMT
    21 years of his life, taken away by an uncaring, overzealous prosecutor who KNEW the evidence showed this man was innocent, and withheld just to make a name for himself?

    Sue him and the county, render him and his family destitute, then put him in prison for the next 21 years. In the same prison housing other "criminals" he's sent there. Let's see how long the fucker lasts.
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    Aug 09, 2009 5:25 PM GMT
    I would be STUNNED if that man doesn't go after the prosecuters.. and that means the county I would assume... We'll hear more.. about how this man
    successfully sues and wins and he fucking deserves every penny!

    What I hope happens here is that there are attorneys disbarred or face criminal prosecution as a result.

    A 19 year old kid with little to defend himself.... I'm sick to my stomach....

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    Aug 09, 2009 5:31 PM GMT
    You hear stuff like this and it goes to show you how easily someone like Michael Jackson (especially when a great deal of money is at stake) could have been falsely accused. The press gets ahold of something like this and it gets sensationalized to such a degree that the story takes on a life of its own. At that point, the truth gets lost in the media madness. So sad. I hope this guy sues the crap out of those responsible and wins a boat load of money. He'll never get his 21 years back, but at least he can have some revenge and enjoy the rest of his life.
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    Aug 09, 2009 6:10 PM GMT
    It is our modern day witch trials epidemic. I remember seeing another one of those news reports a few years ago about all those cases in the 80's where children ad grown up and confessed that nothing ever really happened and that they were coerced. Rumors of satanic rituals, queers, etc. Unfortunately gays seem to be the easiest most powerless group to go after as even now some religious groups try to conflate sexual orientation with sexual predators.

    I have no doubt that some criminal prosecution is pursued so zealously to garnish political bragging points and money.
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    Aug 09, 2009 8:26 PM GMT
    TWENTY ONE YEARS??? I hope they give him over a MILLION bucks for wrongfully accusing him of doing something and fucking over his like for two decades.
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    Aug 09, 2009 8:59 PM GMT
    ActiveAndFit saidIt is our modern day witch trials epidemic. I remember seeing another one of those news reports a few years ago about all those cases in the 80's where children ad grown up and confessed that nothing ever really happened and that they were coerced. .

    There was in fact a witch hunt atmosphere in the late 80s based on the bogus theory of "recovered memory" under which children or adults with behavior disorders were automatically assumed to have been abused. The "therapists" would then basically make up "memories" of abuse and coach the children to remember them.
    Recovered memory has since been discredited but child abuse cases are still hard to defend. A glance at the faces of prospective jurors when they're told it's a child abuse case tells you right away that the defense will have an uphill battle.

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    Aug 09, 2009 9:38 PM GMT
    The sad thing is, all the pain and suffering can never be undone; never. Money would only be compensation, a band aid. What has been endured can never be undone.
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    Aug 10, 2009 12:09 AM GMT
    Money will probably not heal the hurt he has faced, and it wont get those 21 years back, but it'll teach a lesson to the legal world - you don't fuck with peoples' lives like this.
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    Aug 10, 2009 12:35 AM GMT
    brucenitro saidTWENTY ONE YEARS??? I hope they give him over a MILLION bucks for wrongfully accusing him of doing something and fucking over his like for two decades.


    a million bucks? That's it? That's the coast for a life time of therapy! A couple more dollars won't hurt but if he had a chip on his shoulder....deservedly so, I'd understand.
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    Aug 10, 2009 1:01 AM GMT
    brucenitro saidTWENTY ONE YEARS??? I hope they give him over a MILLION bucks for wrongfully accusing him of doing something and fucking over his like for two decades.



    A million dollars ain't nothing compared to what he went through. I mean 21 fucking years. Thats really F***ed up. My heart goes out to him.

    "A 6-year-old boy is being questioned. "The kid keeps saying over and over, 'Where's my prize? You promised me a prize! I want my prize now!'"

    And the judge ruled out against him after watching that little kid asking for his prize?icon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gif

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    Aug 10, 2009 1:54 AM GMT
    In Canada, we have a long history of incarcerating innocent people, for various reasons. Mostly, it's police incompetence during the investigation. There have been cases where the police have coerced witnesses into changing their statements though. There have even been cases where the crown attorney's office (you call it state attorney I think) withheld evidence that would have exonerated the accused. You can't trust Johnny Law, so you always have to be watching your back.

    I'm a medical imaging technologist. I never let myself be in a situation where I'm alone with a kid. I always have a witness, either the parent or another staff member, in the room with me and the kid. That way, there can be no "mommy he touched me" accusations.

    If you don't want to be a victim, be aware of your risks, and avoid them.
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    Aug 10, 2009 2:22 AM GMT
    Disgusting what was done to him. I think this is the first time I've seen everyone agree on a forum topic.
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    Aug 10, 2009 2:27 AM GMT
    well the justice system preys on individuals who can afford the right legal council. Only poor people are convicted. And only poor people get the lawyers fresh out of law school. the ones without experience. i really hope he is compensated for the time taken out of his freedom.
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    Aug 10, 2009 3:42 AM GMT
    tereseus1 saidwell the justice system preys on individuals who can afford the right legal council. Only poor people are convicted. And only poor people get the lawyers fresh out of law school. the ones without experience. i really hope he is compensated for the time taken out of his freedom.

    It also says he was sexually assaulted in the shower, and we know what that means. Will he get more compensation for that, as well, or will his being gay disadvantage him in our legal system once again? A woman who's raped might get some consideration, but I wonder about a gay man.

    Plus what if he acquired HIV in prison? He was apparently only about 21 when he started his 3 consecutive life sentences (worse than many killers receive or serve), and I would expect blood work was done when he went in, which could prove if he contracted HIV while incarcerated. Would that entitle him to even greater compensation, for having potentially shortened his entire life, and reducing the quality of the life he has remaining?

    I hope it's possible to continue to follow his case.
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    Aug 10, 2009 3:47 AM GMT
    I think the other tragedy here is that all of this started when a couple of drug-addicted parents made the first false accusation.
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    Aug 10, 2009 9:10 AM GMT
    This is the stuff nightmares are made of. I just cannot begin to imagine what was to be through that hell being innocent.

    Suing and lashing out against the county seems like something that would make us feel better about this after just hearing about this; but I just can guess the state of mind of this guy after two decades, so...

    Grrrr... at the very least I hope he can get BIG money from them (again, that would make me feel better) to help him construct a life of his own again and to make an example of something that must never happen again.
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    Aug 10, 2009 9:16 AM GMT
    It's shocking to think, how many more cases there are of things like this?!