• HndsmKansan

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    Aug 10, 2009 5:38 PM GMT
    It makes me sick to my stomach. I couldn't fathom waking up some morning and find my horse butchered...


    From CNN:

    By Kim Segal and John Zarrella

    MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Geronimo was a beautiful painted quarter horse.

    Geronimo "was irreplaceable," says the woman who owned him.

    1 of 2 "He was a type of horse that he got along with everybody," says owner Ivonne Rodriguez. She had Geronimo for five years -- until his slaughtered carcass was found under a tree.

    For Geronimo, home was a 10-acre pasture in a rural area of Miami-Dade County. The horse, Rodriguez says, made many people happy over the years.

    "He was ridden by everybody," she says. "He was irreplaceable."

    Geronimo had a distinct look -- brown and white, with a thick white stripe that ran from his forehead to his nose. It was this mark that helped a neighbor identify Geronimo after he was reported missing.

    Someone is killing horses in Southeast Florida.

    Since January, 19 horses have been reported butchered -- 17 in Miami-Dade County and two in Broward County.

    And that might be just a conservative estimate.

    "That number is extremely low," says Richard "Kudo" Couto of the South Florida Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. "There are many more slaughters in South Florida."

    Couto, an SPCA investigator, says many butcherings are going unreported by people who do not want to get involved with law enforcement. Police concede that underreporting of such animal cruelty crimes is a concern.

    The reported deaths are being investigated by a multiagency team that includes Scott Andress from the Miami-Dade Police Department.

    "In the majority of these cases, the carcasses exhibited signs of being slaughtered and dismembered, and the meat removed from the bodies," Andress says.

    Couto says the killing of horses for their meat is South Florida's "dirty little secret." But it is a secret no longer, with the number of reported horse deaths on the rise.

    "At this point in the investigation, we're attempting to confirm the existence of a black market demand," Andress says. Watch why horse owners are terrified ยป

    Law enforcement authorities say it may be premature to focus solely on a killing-horses-for-meat theory. But Couto believes that is exactly what is happening And, he says, it has been going on for years.

    The SPCA's Couto says he knows firsthand that there is a black market for horse meat. He even quotes prices -- a pound of horse meat might sell for anywhere from $7 to $20, with one recent report of $40 for a pound in Broward County.

    The interest in the meat stems from cultural demand, according to Couto. The Miami area is a melting pot, he says, made up of many nationalities.

    "In their country of origin, horse meat is legal to buy and eat," Couto explains.

    He also says people may be interested in horse meat because of a false belief that it will cure medical ailments such as AIDS or ease the side effects of chemotherapy.

    Andress may not want to pinpoint a motive yet, but he does admit that killing the animals is not the perpetrator's main goal. The goal comes afterward, he explains, with "whatever activity they engaged in postmortem."

    In some instances of the grisly "activity" to which Andress refers, the only evidence of a crime is a bare carcass left at the scene.

    Like Geronimo.

    "Not only was my horse stolen, he was butchered," Rodriguez says.

    She believes her beloved horse was tied to a palm tree, and she points out stains that appear to be blood. She thinks he was an easy target.

    "Geronimo is a type of horse -- my goodness, if you had an apple in your hand, he's your best friend."

    Whoever slaughtered Geronimo concealed the carcass with a tarp and palm fronds. It was found in a rural area near the pasture the animal called home.
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    Aug 10, 2009 8:27 PM GMT
    People never cease to amaze me. Hopefully they will be caught soon and no more horses will be slaughtered icon_sad.gif
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    Aug 10, 2009 8:33 PM GMT
    an eye for an eye .. .
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    Aug 10, 2009 9:23 PM GMT
    Gordon Ramsey's cooking show, "The F word", featured a segment on horse meat. It's considered a delicacy in certain parts of the world and they were trying to promote it in Britain.

    I have a hard time understanding why people want to eat everything that moves. We'd all be better off if we ate a primarily vegetarian diet.
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    Aug 10, 2009 9:50 PM GMT
    That's disturbing... when I eat my horse meat, I'd like to know that it's been produced legally.

    bloody horse poachers!!
  • Anto

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    Aug 10, 2009 10:14 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    RowBuddy saidThis is just like when it is discovered that your favorite neighborhood asian food is really the reason why so many Fidos and Pussycats are going missing in the area. Happened at a couple places I have lived.

    What I calls
    Popping pussies into pies...
    Wouldn't do in my shop!

    She did try though! - "And I'm telling you them pussy cat's is quick.."

    Wasn't someone also going around and mutilating cat's in Florida too?
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    Aug 11, 2009 2:52 AM GMT
    Mike Vick did it to dogs...everybody made a mockery of it...icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Aug 11, 2009 2:57 AM GMT
    Horse meat taste soo gross!! I rather ride them then eat them.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Aug 11, 2009 3:21 AM GMT
    muchmorethanmuscle saidBoy, I tell you. If I found someone attempting to kill my house . icon_evil.gif

    Kind of you to say Adrian and I agree.. but a question.....

    How does someone kill your house? I thought you lived in an apt??

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    Aug 11, 2009 3:26 AM GMT
    I remember, and I wish I did not. During my time farming someone had gotten to some of the beef cattle, and cut off their legs with a chain saw; gotta run to bathroom.
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    Aug 11, 2009 1:43 PM GMT
    LOL, SWL2 ,

    Canada has a few licensed abattoirs processing horses for European consumption and a low demand in Quebec.

    The government is busy shutting them down by not renewing licenses. There was 6 now I believe 3 or 4.

    The US also has this happening..

    "In 2006, about 88,000 horses in the U.S. were killed and processed into horsemeat.
    The last operating slaughterhouse in the U.S., located in DeKalb, Ill., is struggling to remain open while it fights a new state law aimed at putting it out of business for good. It has been shipping its meat to U.S. zoos for feed, and overseas for human consumption, for about two decades."

    The Canadian ones are doing a booming business as the US ones are shut down and operations moved to Canada. One of the biggest North American markets is Mexico....

    To give some perspective, rabbits are a domestic pet, but also raised for food.

    Really though, this topic is not about raising horses for food, but about poaching and the killing of people's pets. Theft and the suffering of pets at the hands of criminals.

    Pretty bad stuff.

    -Doug of meninlove

  • farmguytn

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    Aug 11, 2009 1:45 PM GMT
    It amazes me that someone would stoop to this. I can't imagine anyone going into someones back yard and doing that. Maybe its time to up security around the barn!!!!!!!
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    Aug 11, 2009 2:00 PM GMT