What do you think of True english men?

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    Aug 13, 2009 11:39 AM GMT
    Ok without this sounding racist guys; what do you do think of english people (from england UK)???

    Does not matter if you have or have not been here, or evern know any, im keen to know if you have a stereotype view , consider us european or what? Shout to all the english guys too!
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    Aug 13, 2009 11:39 AM GMT
    Haha, i best not answer being english lol
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    Aug 13, 2009 11:51 AM GMT
    I can't stand that pompous English accent, unless your some white haired old man then its a complete turn off.

    other then that.. it's all good.
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    Aug 13, 2009 12:15 PM GMT
    they are OK, but I'm not a big fan of the male version of the slapper lol
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    Aug 13, 2009 12:16 PM GMT
    As a 1st post from a very hot guy I'd have to say if you're the representative then great.

    In general my experience with men in London wasn't so terrific. I found a greater number of men who make appointments and dates and then flaked. This wasn't an isolated experience, it happened living in blighty part time from 2003 to 2009.

    That may be just me.

    On a completely unrelated note, I go weak for an Oxbridge accent when it comes from someone who speaks English as a second language and is authentic. (I am thinking of a German Oxford student I met.)

    On another completely unrelated note I find many Irishmen hot and have a hopeless crush on my London barber who is from County Cork.

    A welshman threatened to kill me once (he was drunk and this was 25 years ago).

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    Aug 13, 2009 6:45 PM GMT
    England is an extremely class based society - very different from the US.

    Working class, middle class and upper class english people are completely different... and even amongst them - what part of england they come from makes a huge difference as well. In the North they are much nicer... warmer... friendlier... but can also be very chavvy...I can't deal with the chavs really... but generally all over England there is a problem.. most english guys are not able to express themselves unless they are drunk... they are generally very reserved which sometimes comes accross as being "snooty".... but they are much more HONEST/sincere than American guys.

    The English / British guys who move to USA are not the best examples...rather they are the worst... only certain people from Europe are attracted to living in the US.
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    Aug 13, 2009 6:56 PM GMT
    travelstud saidEngland is an extremely class based society - very different from the US.

    Working class, middle class and upper class english people are completely different... and even amongst them - what part of england they come from makes a huge difference as well. In the North they are much nicer... warmer... friendlier... but can also be very chavvy...I can't deal with the chavs really... but generally all over England there is a problem.. most english guys are not able to express themselves unless they are drunk... they are generally very reserved which sometimes comes accross as being "snooty".... but they are much more HONEST/sincere than American guys.

    The English / British guys who move to USA are not the best examples...rather they are the worst... only certain people from Europe are attracted to living in the US.


    What America do you live in? If the current healthcare debate doesn't show glaringly how class-based our country is, I don't know what would convince you?

    I've known lots of Brits, male and female, and have liked them all. Funny, witty, charming, etc are things that they all had in common. But as much as we like to paint entire populations based on interactions with one or two people, I don't know how useful a response that is. Brits can be assholes, class-whores, dicks, etc just like any other person of any other nationality..
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    Aug 13, 2009 7:02 PM GMT
    I so agree with BadMikey...what America do you live in dude?...lol...neway I love britts, they are cool to me...and maybe someday I want I would like to live there. Oh and btw, the person who started this forum, you are really fucking hott..like dayum...you make me want to go there now...lol!
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    Aug 13, 2009 7:09 PM GMT
    Love England, would love to live there....
    And the guys i've met are all intelligent, eloquent...and sexy! yummy!
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    Aug 13, 2009 7:15 PM GMT
    Franko85 saidI so agree with BadMikey...what America do you live in dude?...



    I DONT LIVE IN AMERICA
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    Aug 13, 2009 7:16 PM GMT
    People are people. I've had the chance to live a few far from US places and that's always proven true in my experience. Had some great experiences with English people. I'm still in contact with a few of them.

    I definitely feel that in general they are far more "home town" focused than people in the US are these days. I also understand there is a bit of a northern and southern thing going like we have here in the US but in reverse.

    I definitely love the variation in the English accents-and I'm starting to get fairly decent at guessing which part of England the speaker has come from. I think my current favorite is the Lancashire area. Although, I sometimes don't understand what was just said. icon_razz.gif
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    Aug 13, 2009 7:17 PM GMT
    Bad teath?

    But umsum's look good icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 13, 2009 7:31 PM GMT
    honestly? not the best looking people in europe.... on average. much better sense of humour than most of europe without doubt.
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    Aug 13, 2009 7:33 PM GMT
    travelstud said
    Franko85 saidI so agree with BadMikey...what America do you live in dude?...



    I DONT LIVE IN AMERICA


    Fair enough, then. Take our word for it. icon_smile.gif
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    Aug 13, 2009 7:36 PM GMT
    bad teeth
    after 35 not generally very attractive
    can sound quite posh - depending on where they are from
    well they all sound posh to americans
    freaks in bed
    tend to be hot to people from the former colonies
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    Aug 13, 2009 9:18 PM GMT
    I've been to London and been with 2 different English boys. So from personal experiences, English guys are HOT and yes, I think you guys are Europeans. The guys I slept with were boy-next-door-cute, sexy, gentle and have a very cute English accent. (one was from Manchester or something). They were polite and have nice manners. In the movies, I think Jude Law, Orlando Bloom, Hugh Grant - and Sean Connery who played 007/Bond are all pretty HOT. And David Beckham is pretty much the English poster boy for a gay soccer team? icon_lol.gif
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    Aug 13, 2009 9:27 PM GMT
    Blackguy4you saidbad teeth
    after 35 not generally very attractive
    can sound quite posh - depending on where they are from
    well they all sound posh to americans
    freaks in bed



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    tend to be hot to people from the former colonies
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    Aug 13, 2009 10:21 PM GMT
    Yay for brits!
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    Aug 13, 2009 10:51 PM GMT
    Gilbert & Sullivan put it thusly (from HMS Pinafore with repeats omitted):

    For he himself has said it,
    And it's greatly to his credit,
    That he is an Englishman!

    For he might have been a Roosian,
    A French, or Turk, or Proosian,
    Or perhaps Itali-an!

    But in spite of all temptations
    To belong to other nations,
    He remains an Englishman!

    I served with the Brits in Europe, and admire them very much. And I, for one, happen to melt at their upper-class accent.
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    Aug 13, 2009 10:54 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidGilbert & Sullivan put it thusly (from HMS Pinafore with repeats omitted):

    For he himself has said it,
    And it's greatly to his credit,
    That he is an Englishman!

    For he might have been a Roosian,
    A French, or Turk, or Proosian,
    Or perhaps Itali-an!

    But in spite of all temptations
    To belong to other nations,
    He remains an Englishman!

    I served with the Brits in Europe, and admire them very much. And I, for one, happen to melt at their upper-class accent.


    see what i said

    eh vespa - not all of their accents are upper class. it only sounds that way to you. you've obviously never heard a brommie accent: and don't talk about someone from blackpool

    Oi!
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    Aug 13, 2009 11:04 PM GMT
    Blackguy4you saideh vespa - not all of their accents are upper class. it only sounds that way to you. you've obviously never heard a brommie accent: and don't talk about someone from blackpool

    I didn't say all British accents are upper class. I think I know that accent from say, Cornish, when I hear it, having lived over there. Did you know that the British Army officers with whom I served were given elocution lessons at Sandhurst, so their accents would be appropriate to their class & rank? Yeah, I think I know the upper-class accent.
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    Aug 13, 2009 11:06 PM GMT
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    Blackguy4you saideh vespa - not all of their accents are upper class. it only sounds that way to you. you've obviously never heard a brommie accent: and don't talk about someone from blackpool

    I didn't say all British accents are upper class. I think I know that accent from say, Cornish, when I hear it, having lived over there. Did you know that the British Army officers with whom I served were given elocution lessons at Sandhurst, so their accents would be appropriate to their class & rank? Yeah, I think I know the accent.


    well yes they would - that's the officer's traing facility after all.

    i stand corrected, but you did not indicate that you were speaking about a specific segment of the population. or perhaps i just did not read it
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    Aug 13, 2009 11:27 PM GMT
    travelstud saidEngland is an extremely class based society - very different from the US.

    The English / British guys who move to USA are not the best examples...rather they are the worst... only certain people from Europe are attracted to living in the US.


    If you can't see the classism in the US, well... you need to open you're eyes. It's true that it's more overt in the UK, but believe me it's still there.

    As to your last comment, you're making a ridiculous generalisation. People have many different reasons for living abroad, and the US is so very far from being a homogenous country (thankfully) I can't imagine any two of them are the same.
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    Aug 13, 2009 11:31 PM GMT
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    Aug 13, 2009 11:58 PM GMT
    I think the premise is flawed: what is a "true" englishman?

    There are many tensions (and I mean this in the sense of things to base identity on rather than sources of conflict) in contemporary British society: London vs the Regions, Religion, Ethnicity, Class, Manufacturing vs Services, Post-colonialism, etc. I can't see how a single identity can hope to reconcile them. We are, after all, a country of about 50 million.

    Moreover, the identity "English" is very very weak. I can't help thinking of the words of Stevie Smith:
    "England, you've been here too long, And the songs you sing are the songs you sung On a braver day, now they are wrong."

    People have alas seemed to take this too much to heart. What is good, and best about England, is the sheer beauty of the land which seems to conceal myth in every corner from the Towans of Kernow to the lakes of Cumbria. People have oddly identified the "upper-class" accent as attractive, whatever they mean by "the" upper-class accent. I think I prefer the authenticity of the regional accents, because for me the classism is the most unattractive feature of the English.

    The greatest Englishmen: Matthew Boulton, Erasmus and Charles Darwin, Brunel, Turing, Keynes, G H Hardy, Bertrand Russell... there are many more. The English inventiveness... and humanity. Inventiveness poetry and humanity are our best traits; officiousness boorishness and snobbery are our worst.

    I'll be sorry to leave England again for the US---they're such different cultures but each utterly fascinating.