Have we become a nation of 'haters'?

  • Timbales

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    Aug 13, 2009 1:07 PM GMT
    Honest question. It seems that more and more, we are becoming a nation of people who are jaded and immediately jump to the negative on a soundbite of just about any issue. Reality TV, where the lowest of behaviors gets the best ratings and discussion, is king. News channels immediately try to disprove or refute any kind of positive news or instance. Hell, when someone does something nice it is news, until the speculation of motive begins and they dig up every bit of dirt from the person's past.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Aug 13, 2009 1:22 PM GMT
    Well I don't think we are a nation of "haters".. at least I hope not.

    The Media strives to expose the background to any story because of the drive for ratings. It works.. look at some of the publications we have that are notorious for being incorrect, available at the checkout of any grocery.

    While I don't expressly hold the media at fault, we do get our impressions based on whats shown on TV, online and the print media..... and when they make mistakes, thats also exposed. Many people are more likely to accept negative propoganda than positive.... and thats unfortunate.
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    Aug 13, 2009 1:43 PM GMT
    Timberoo you have nicely summarized why I rarely watch TV. With the exception of the business news while I am drinking my morning coffee and sports events, my exposure to TV is virtually 0. I can't say I have suffered from a lack of "information".
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    Aug 13, 2009 2:02 PM GMT
    To answer your question, No.

    Because as a nation we always have been. Just look throughout the history books. So much hate and resentment. It truly is the unofficial american way.
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    Aug 13, 2009 5:07 PM GMT
    Nah......I don't think America is becoming a nation of haters.

    Other countries are worse..sunnis, shiites, hutu, tutsi, hindu, muslim...whatever...etc
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    Aug 13, 2009 5:56 PM GMT
    I don't think we've become a nation of 'haters' (what does that term even mean?) but I think there is ample evidence that points to a very large and loud portion of our population becoming very, very angry about just about everything. I think the bubble bursting in our economy took away the illusion that the American dream was as reachable as a bad loan, and the healthcare debate is higlighting a previously less-noticeable (though definitely present) type of caste system. It really doesn't take much anymore to get a huge portion of the population's collective panties in a twist.

    I'm hesitant to blame any one outlet, but I think the 24-hour news cycle has made it a mandate that our media outlets make EVERYTHING news, and that we have become easily distracted by what used to be considered trivial. I also think "reality" tv (in quotes because it doesn't mirror any reality I've ever experienced) and our obsession with pop culture and fame has turned a frighteningly large number of people into do-anything-to-be-noticed-especially-if-it's-bad types.
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    Aug 13, 2009 6:57 PM GMT
    Yes, we have become a Hater Nation.
    Has everyone read most of the stuff in the news, on tv, the way we deal with people in our lives, sometimes the comments we've has chatted out here.
    Everyone's hating because we've become conditioned to do so, which is sad.
    We don't celebrate each other's successes and encourage each other's strengths anymore; it's much more fun to tear each other down to get up or feel good about themselves because they can't work out their own insecurities, or if nothing else for entertainment.
    No, we should not condone this.
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    Aug 13, 2009 7:31 PM GMT
    No, I don't think it's something unique to the US. It's like that in most other places as well. But I don't live there, so I don't know how bad it is. I don't even own a television anymore and I rarely watched the news even when I had one because of all the negative energy it spreads. I also despise reality tv. I only watched cartoons like family guy etc and shows on wildlife.
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    Aug 13, 2009 8:50 PM GMT
    A nation of Haters ??? NO.. but USA has become a Nation of "HATED" - everyone I speak to in Europe about Americans says they can't stand them. I have problems dealing with it too - I dont think I hate the US as a country - I quite like it.. but i've had only bad experiences with Americans so can't help it. Otherwise its a nice country with a lot to offer - I just find the people very fake, pretentious and backward.. and dishonest too. Americans definitely have a superiority complex and a lot of arrogance that no one likes to deal with...
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    Aug 13, 2009 9:07 PM GMT
    travelstud saidA nation of Haters ??? NO.. but USA has become a Nation of "HATED" - everyone I speak to in Europe about Americans says they can't stand them. I have problems dealing with it too - I dont think I hate the US as a country - I quite like it.. but i've had only bad experiences with Americans so can't help it. Otherwise its a nice country with a lot to offer - I just find the people very fake, pretentious and backward.. and dishonest too. Americans definitely have a superiority complex and a lot of arrogance that no one likes to deal with...


    There are 300 million people in this country. Some of them fall into the stereotypes you describe above - many do not. Bad people exist everywhere. So do good. Overgeneralizing about entire populations of people is what starts wars.

    I have to say tho, if everyone in the EU hated Americans, I doubt they would have been tripping over themselves to fawn over our President and First Lady as they did when they were there a couple of months ago. I understand that the US has developed a bad reputation with many people all over the world since shortly after 9/11, but not everybody hates us, nor should they.
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    Aug 13, 2009 9:11 PM GMT
    travelstud saidA nation of Haters ??? NO.. but USA has become a Nation of "HATED" - everyone I speak to in Europe about Americans says they can't stand them. I have problems dealing with it too - I dont think I hate the US as a country - I quite like it.. but i've had only bad experiences with Americans so can't help it. Otherwise its a nice country with a lot to offer - I just find the people very fake, pretentious and backward.. and dishonest too. Americans definitely have a superiority complex and a lot of arrogance that no one likes to deal with...


    Yet almost every foreign culture enjoys our media, culture and perceived lifestyle.

    We shouldn't be caring about what other nationalities think of us, we should be throwing rocks at them. America has the right to have the superiority "complex" simply because we're pretty much superior in *almost* everything (almost inserted for the gnats that are going to spew things about America's problems).
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    Aug 13, 2009 9:16 PM GMT
    Yeah, like healthcare!
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    Aug 13, 2009 9:20 PM GMT
    Google "Most Hated Country" and decide for yourself which comes up the most in the search results.
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    Aug 13, 2009 9:23 PM GMT
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    travelstud said


    Yet almost every foreign culture enjoys our media, culture and perceived lifestyle.

    We shouldn't be caring about what other nationalities think of us, we should be throwing rocks at them. America has the right to have the superiority "complex" simply because we're pretty much superior in *almost* everything (almost inserted for the gnats that are going to spew things about America's problems).



    This is exactly why they all hate you... only 15% of americans even have a passport... you don't even know what life is like outside the US - most of you never go or experience it.. and if you do you behave as if you own the planet... which you clearly don't. China owns all your debt now.. and foreign companies own most of your business - the reality of America is very different from what your media paints for you and makes you believe blindly.
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    Aug 13, 2009 9:24 PM GMT
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    travelstud saidA nation of Haters ??? NO.. but USA has become a Nation of "HATED" - everyone I speak to in Europe about Americans says they can't stand them. I have problems dealing with it too - I dont think I hate the US as a country - I quite like it.. but i've had only bad experiences with Americans so can't help it. Otherwise its a nice country with a lot to offer - I just find the people very fake, pretentious and backward.. and dishonest too. Americans definitely have a superiority complex and a lot of arrogance that no one likes to deal with...


    Yet almost every foreign culture enjoys our media, culture and perceived lifestyle.



    This much is SOooo true. Growing up overseas I've noticed this way more times than not.
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    Aug 13, 2009 9:25 PM GMT
    travelstud saidGoogle "Most Hated Country" and decide for yourself which comes up the most in the search results.


    Why? Most people who answer insipid poll questions like that have neither the knowledge or understanding of the country they're being asked about to answer the question intelligently. And that includes Americans who say that they "hate" countries they've never visited, whose people they've never met, and who's way of life they couldn't possibly understand.

    But that wasn't the point of the original question, which is whether or not America has become a nation of haters, and I don't think we have. There is not a single thing, concept or idea that all 300 million of us will ever agree on.
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    Aug 13, 2009 9:25 PM GMT
    well according to this msnbc item.... YES WE ARE!

    but I still think it's only a minority of idiots!

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30876593/

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30876593/
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    Aug 13, 2009 9:27 PM GMT
    On a seperate note - the US also have a LOT of good things which so many other countries do not offer. So for many its a land of big opportunity and always has been... it was a much better country 40-50 yrs ago though..
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    Aug 13, 2009 9:28 PM GMT
    travelstud saidOn a seperate note - the US also have a LOT of good things which so many other countries do not offer. So for many its a land of big opportunity and always has been... it was a much better country 40-50 yrs ago though..


    depends upon your perspective- i would argue

    HELL TO DA NO!!!
  • michaeltex

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    Aug 13, 2009 9:31 PM GMT
    I feel it should be based on individual's and not countries or race. I like America it's a country where you have every race from all over the world living here.
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    Aug 13, 2009 9:35 PM GMT
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    travelstud saidOn a seperate note - the US also have a LOT of good things which so many other countries do not offer. So for many its a land of big opportunity and always has been... it was a much better country 40-50 yrs ago though..


    depends upon your perspective- i would argue

    HELL TO DA NO!!!


    Sorry - I know what you would argue on.. LOL
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    Aug 13, 2009 9:42 PM GMT
    michaeltex saidI feel it should be based on individual's and not countries or race. I like America it's a country where you have every race from all over the world living here.


    yeah and none of them like each other.... hahaha
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    Aug 13, 2009 9:44 PM GMT
    Blackguy4you said
    travelstud saidOn a seperate note - the US also have a LOT of good things which so many other countries do not offer. So for many its a land of big opportunity and always has been... it was a much better country 40-50 yrs ago though..


    depends upon your perspective- i would argue

    HELL TO DA NO!!!



    I chuckled on this one...icon_lol.gif
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    Aug 13, 2009 9:45 PM GMT
    travelstud said
    michaeltex saidI feel it should be based on individual's and not countries or race. I like America it's a country where you have every race from all over the world living here.


    yeah and none of them like each other.... hahaha




    That's not true! Ok maybe the slow drivers...
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    Aug 13, 2009 9:46 PM GMT
    travelstud saidOn a seperate note - the US also have a LOT of good things which so many other countries do not offer. So for many its a land of big opportunity and always has been... it was a much better country 40-50 yrs ago though..


    I agree but I wouldn't have gone so far, the era circa mid-nighties was probably the peaking point for the USA in my mind. Were mostly paying for the mistakes since then and no I'm not talking about the economy. Everything related to society has been on the down swing as a result of the decisions made around then.

    A title I doubt it will regain