Homophobia, It Hurts!!!

  • PaMedic

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    Aug 15, 2009 3:12 AM GMT
    Homophobia Help!!!!

    We can reach to a lot of the merely miss informed homophobic people, only God can reach the those that touchier and bash the life-styles they don't and don't want to understand, no one can take the place of the man above. With the number of gay suicides and suicide behaviors we desperately have to reach out to those that are in denial, that are starting to believe and even repeat the terrible lies and hatred that they are subjected to and start believing about themselves.

    We need to treat people's insecurities as their weaknesses, not as reason to hate that person. We have to get along with people and try to inform them, but never base our self-worth on whether they except you or not. Hateful saying stick in our heads, like a song or commercial you never liked in the first place, we have to learn to over look those and see ourselves as a beautiful person. If others fail to see us that way consider it their loss. Accept yourself and take action.

    We can make a difference in ours and other gays lives and families. Refuse to be a victim, use the voice that other try to deny us, promote good and positive feelings. Rely on your resources and friends to keep strong and remember the beautiful person that you are.

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    Aug 15, 2009 6:10 AM GMT
    in fact homophobia does not hurt me, I won't let it. I'm secure in my own sexuality that I can joke with it, and not feel a need to repress people from bringing up topics about homosexuality, because I'm insecure about my own sexuality. In fact banning a word, or a topic give them power.

    Also Some of the worst, and violent homophobes are bisexual men in denial. I have a number of straight mates, who don't feel threatend by my sexuality, because they are secure in their own sexuality; so a lot of the problem lays within the GBL communities.

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    Aug 16, 2009 12:47 AM GMT
    It is not affect me
  • HndsmKansan

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    Aug 16, 2009 1:54 PM GMT
    Wise encouragement from a positive individual. No wonder we hit it off as friends....always the right focus.......

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  • jrs1

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    Sep 13, 2009 11:39 AM GMT
    BerberKnight saidI am exposed to, surrounded by and live with homophobia on a daily basis.

    Time to be me and not feel bad about it.

    Thank you for shedding the light on this important issue that could never be discussed enough!


    Ditto ... well-said.
  • islander24

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    Sep 14, 2009 2:28 AM GMT
    In last year's movie, Mulligans ( recently aired on LOGOS tv as well), Charlie David
    attends a straight barbeque. Several homophob comments are made which were obivouisly out of line. Charlie tells his friend ( that he just came out to in the film) , gays are like spies. You hear all kinds of things when they don't know you're gay.

    Only time and education are going to make the difference. Another character from the film the hetro dad remarks, things were different 20 ars ago. They were indeed.
    He finally realizes he has been gay along .

    Where I live, I know I am lucky. We have a live and let live approach to life. That said there is still plenty of homophobia at times even here and it's worst in the rest of the world, but thankfully getting better.

    By the way, I think you can still catch this flick on www.Logoonline.com
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    Sep 14, 2009 2:34 AM GMT
    I think it's kind of silly that we expect others to expel homophobia and anti-gayness from their lives, and in a broader sense, from the world, when there isn't really any cohesion or unity in the gay "community." I find threads like this hopelessly romantic. Being positive is great, but let's look around and see ourselves for what we really are.
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    Sep 14, 2009 2:36 AM GMT

    lol ATM, try Canada. That's similar to saying that if black people argue with each other they deserve racism.
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    Sep 14, 2009 3:03 AM GMT
    meninlove said
    lol ATM, try Canada. That's similar to saying that if black people argue with each other they deserve racism.


    No, not really. "Black" refers to skin color, and it's a completely different dynamic from GLBTQ. Can't really compare them outside the fact that both groups face discrimination and prejudice.
  • mcwclewis

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    Sep 14, 2009 3:06 AM GMT
    meninlove said
    lol ATM, try Canada. That's similar to saying that if black people argue with each other they deserve racism.




    I love you.



    That is SO true
  • mcwclewis

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    Sep 14, 2009 3:09 AM GMT
    Addicted2me said
    meninlove said
    lol ATM, try Canada. That's similar to saying that if black people argue with each other they deserve racism.


    No, not really. "Black" refers to skin color, and it's a completely different dynamic from GLBTQ. Can't really compare them outside the fact that both groups face discrimination and prejudice.



    I get what you're saying, to some degree. but really, i think gays aren't all that different. the only reason there are so many stereotypes and so many people who fill them is because of the stigmas already attached to homosexuality. A lot will fit the stereotypes because they feel the need to fit in, further proving said stereotypes.... but I think asside from the self-affliction we really are in the same boat.
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    Sep 14, 2009 3:18 AM GMT
    mcwclewis said
    Addicted2me said
    meninlove said
    lol ATM, try Canada. That's similar to saying that if black people argue with each other they deserve racism.


    No, not really. "Black" refers to skin color, and it's a completely different dynamic from GLBTQ. Can't really compare them outside the fact that both groups face discrimination and prejudice.



    I get what you're saying, to some degree. but really, i think gays aren't all that different. the only reason there are so many stereotypes and so many people who fill them is because of the stigmas already attached to homosexuality. A lot will fit the stereotypes because they feel the need to fit in, further proving said stereotypes.... but I think asside from the self-affliction we really are in the same boat.


    They are not the same. A simple, superficial reason is that you can "hide" sexual orientation. You cannot "hide" the color of your skin.
  • mcwclewis

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    Sep 14, 2009 3:19 AM GMT
    ok... you "can."


    I don't.
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    Sep 14, 2009 3:21 AM GMT
    ATM, this is not true..."A simple, superficial reason is that you can "hide" sexual orientation."

  • mcwclewis

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    Sep 14, 2009 3:26 AM GMT
    Yeah Im not sure how that even applies in the conversation.
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    Sep 14, 2009 3:28 AM GMT
    meninlove said ATM, this is not true..."A simple, superficial reason is that you can "hide" sexual orientation."



    Since when did you ever have a problem discerning a person's color? Never, unless you are blind.

    But we can spend hours debating who is gay, what the signs are, and where their proclivities lie.
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    Sep 14, 2009 3:29 AM GMT

    OK ATM, look at our profile and my pic (Doug in the black hat). What race am I?
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    Sep 14, 2009 3:32 AM GMT
    mcwclewis saidok... you "can."


    I don't.


    But you could. In theory, you have a choice. People of color do not have a choice.
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    Sep 14, 2009 3:34 AM GMT

    Now tell me, ATM, do you think Liberace could hide that he was gay?
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    Sep 14, 2009 3:34 AM GMT
    meninlove said
    OK ATM, look at our profile and my pic (Doug in the black hat). What race am I?


    This isn't about racial categories, which are nebulous. I can "see" that you are you. I can't "see" that you are gay based exclusively on your phenotype.
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    Sep 14, 2009 3:35 AM GMT
    Now ATM, keep it simple.

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    Sep 14, 2009 3:42 AM GMT
    meninlove said Now ATM, keep it simple.



    I did. I think you're the one who is trying to complicate what I said by using a singular example like Liberace, or the fact that your physical appearance may be misleading (which is irrelevant).
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    Sep 14, 2009 3:44 AM GMT

    Circular logic is no good. When you revert to that we both decide to back away from tar-baby.

    bye!
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    Sep 14, 2009 3:46 AM GMT
    meninlove said
    Circular logic is no good. When you revert to that we both decide to back away from tar-baby.

    bye!


    Now, MIL, keep it simple.