Getting fats mostly from cashews and peanut butter

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    Aug 15, 2009 3:37 AM GMT
    Apparently I'm only to have .4 of fats per pound of weight, which is about 66 grams.

    Now I go sometimes much more considering how many nuts I go through in a day. Is that okay?

    And I just got that nut thing. icon_lol.gif



    My other question is that I heard I shouldn't mix fats with carbs too much when trying to lose weight. How credible is that?
  • calibro

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    Aug 15, 2009 6:26 AM GMT
    hmm... i have seen soy butter (peanut butter alternative), but I am not sure what the fat content in that is, or how it tastes, but I imagine it would be lower than peanut butter. Secondly, you might want to pull some of your fats elsewhere... flax seed oil and olive oil are very good for you
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    Aug 15, 2009 1:28 PM GMT
    Peanut butter works well enough if you don't overdo it. For lunch every day I have 5 crackers with crunchy peanut butter along with a fruit/ whey protein smoothie. The pb provides the missing fat plus adds some necessary ballast.
  • jlly_rnchr

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    Aug 15, 2009 2:44 PM GMT
    In general, the fats from nuts are poly and monounsaturated fats. Those are the good ones. Omega-3 and Omega-6s. Eat as much of those as you want.

    Now, peanut butter has all that oil in it, sometimes containing trans fat. So that's bad. But there are far worst sources of fat.
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    Aug 15, 2009 3:13 PM GMT
    It's always gonna be natural organic peanut butter for me.

    Thanks for the info, dudes!
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    Aug 15, 2009 3:26 PM GMT
    makavelli saidIt's always gonna be natural organic peanut butter for me.

    Thanks for the info, dudes!


    Where on earth are you getting your nutritional guidance?

    You need good healthy fats (as the other posters said) for fat loss and brain function and general health and wellness.

    Peanuts are awful since they're not nuts, they're legumes with a very high bad fat content.

    What is your actual goal?
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    Aug 15, 2009 3:44 PM GMT
    By peanut butter I have it like twice a day on some toast. I get more nuts from actual nuts.

    My goal right now is to maintain weight, until I can get back into training.
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    Aug 15, 2009 4:08 PM GMT
    Make sure your peanut butter has no "partially hydrogenated trans fats". Those fats can mess with your metabalism and cause you to eat more.

    Raw almonds are a super food too.
  • calibro

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    Aug 15, 2009 4:31 PM GMT
    makavelli saidIt's always gonna be natural organic peanut butter for me.

    Thanks for the info, dudes!


    have you ever tried almond butter or cashew butter? they're delicious and better for you
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    Aug 15, 2009 4:35 PM GMT
    Nutritional fat is not directly related to body fat..that was a myth of the 20th century ( which is why the us has become obese) If you remove processed sugar and carbs from your diet, eating fat will actually cause you to burn body fat.
  • adidas0783

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    Aug 15, 2009 4:47 PM GMT
    makavelli saidBy peanut butter I have it like twice a day on some toast. I get more nuts from actual nuts.

    My goal right now is to maintain weight, until I can get back into training.


    I second Calibro, Almond butter is great and i will slather 2 tablespoons of it on toasted oatmeal bread for breakfast with two eggs fried in olive oil.

    I would highly recommend taking a daily enteric-coated fish oil supplement (between 1-2 grams daily). Just go to Vitamin Shoppe and look for a good brand (usually runs around $30 for a 2 month supply). I take it regularly and it is great to incorporate into your daily nutritional routine. I try to eat clean fish high in omega 3s whenever I can. However, this is not always the case if you have a budget. Getting an extra boost of this heart healthy fat on a daily basis will give you great looking skin, keep your cholesterol in check, help in muscle recovery and is great for your brain.

    Also, continue to have a couple of handfuls of nuts (I can not say that with out cracking up! icon_razz.gif)....Almonds, Macadamia Nuts and Walnuts are great. Also, cook with olive oil and incorporate avocado in your diet.
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    Aug 15, 2009 6:31 PM GMT
    I have flaxseed oil capsules as well. I should use it as supplement right and not as a substitute for fats from real or whole foods?
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    Aug 15, 2009 6:36 PM GMT
    calibro said
    makavelli saidIt's always gonna be natural organic peanut butter for me.

    Thanks for the info, dudes!


    have you ever tried almond butter or cashew butter? they're delicious and better for you


    Where would you get this almond and cashew butter? I love cashews and I'd switch to cashew butter if I knew where to get some. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 15, 2009 7:21 PM GMT
    makavelli saidApparently I'm only to have .4 of fats per pound of weight, which is about 66 grams.

    Now I go sometimes much more considering how many nuts I go through in a day. Is that okay?

    And I just got that nut thing. icon_lol.gif



    My other question is that I heard I shouldn't mix fats with carbs too much when trying to lose weight. How credible is that?


    The nuts are fine, and good for you.

    Understand that organic is simply a marketing thing. It has a higher carbon footprint, takes more water to grow, and uses older, more dangerous, pesticides and has food of lower quality. You're better off, safer, and more responsible to use peanut butter made from modern agriculture methods that has a lower carbon footprint, uses the safer, newer, synthetic, pesticides, has higher food quality, and requires less water to grow.

    Fats with carbs are just fine. The culprit is high insulin levels. You want steady blood sugar levels, which result in steady insulin levels. Calories are key for keeping your metabolism stoked. Avoid fried foods, saturated foods, and high glycemic foods (except post workout to carb up).
  • adidas0783

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    Aug 15, 2009 7:38 PM GMT
    makavelli saidI have flaxseed oil capsules as well. I should use it as supplement right and not as a substitute for fats from real or whole foods?


    Yes, you can incorporate a good flax oil supplement and enteric-coated fish oil supplement. But also get you intake of other heart healthy fats from a variety of nuts, avocados, olive oil and clean fish (ie. wild salmon, trout)
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    Aug 15, 2009 8:50 PM GMT
    muchmorethanmuscle said
    jlly_rnchr saidIn general, the fats from nuts are poly and monounsaturated fats. Those are the good ones. Omega-3 and Omega-6s. Eat as much of those as you want.

    Now, peanut butter has all that oil in it, sometimes containing trans fat. So that's bad. But there are far worst sources of fat.



    This only happens if the peanut butter is hydrogenated. This is a processing technique which changes the fat so that the oil stays mixed with the creamy part of the peanut butter. If you buy natural peanut butter you won't have this problem.

    I personally would avoid peanut butter. It's rubbish compared to cashew butter or almond butter.


    Do you order the cashew/almond butter online or do you go to a specialty store for it?
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    Aug 15, 2009 9:38 PM GMT
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    muchmorethanmuscle said
    jlly_rnchr saidIn general, the fats from nuts are poly and monounsaturated fats. Those are the good ones. Omega-3 and Omega-6s. Eat as much of those as you want.

    Now, peanut butter has all that oil in it, sometimes containing trans fat. So that's bad. But there are far worst sources of fat.



    This only happens if the peanut butter is hydrogenated. This is a processing technique which changes the fat so that the oil stays mixed with the creamy part of the peanut butter. If you buy natural peanut butter you won't have this problem.

    I personally would avoid peanut butter. It's rubbish compared to cashew butter or almond butter.


    Do you order the cashew/almond butter online or do you go to a specialty store for it?


    You can pick up almond butter at your local natural foods store. Not sure if I've seen cashew butter at the trader joes which is normally where I shop for stuff like that.
  • calibro

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    Aug 15, 2009 10:42 PM GMT
    RyanReBoRn said
    muchmorethanmuscle said
    jlly_rnchr saidIn general, the fats from nuts are poly and monounsaturated fats. Those are the good ones. Omega-3 and Omega-6s. Eat as much of those as you want.

    Now, peanut butter has all that oil in it, sometimes containing trans fat. So that's bad. But there are far worst sources of fat.



    This only happens if the peanut butter is hydrogenated. This is a processing technique which changes the fat so that the oil stays mixed with the creamy part of the peanut butter. If you buy natural peanut butter you won't have this problem.

    I personally would avoid peanut butter. It's rubbish compared to cashew butter or almond butter.


    Do you order the cashew/almond butter online or do you go to a specialty store for it?


    Many supermarkets carry it. I know wholefoods often sells it in bulk. Wholefoods also had it's own nut grinder for butters so all you have to do is put in the nuts you want and it will grind it up for you to avoid all the extra fat
  • Celticmusl

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    Aug 15, 2009 11:12 PM GMT
    peanuts are a great source of resveratrol, it will keep you young and ornery.
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    Aug 16, 2009 12:51 AM GMT
    The FDA recommends eating 1.5 ounces of nuts a day. This equals one handful. Nuts are heart healthy because they contain omega-3 fatty acids and not saturated fats like meat and diary products. There are 60 some calories in one ounce of chestnuts and a little over 200 calories in an ounce of macadamia nuts. The other nuts like almonds, walnuts and pecans fall between these two extremes. Dietitians warn about nuts being high in calories. Peanuts are a legume like beans, but are heart healthy. Coconuts are technically a fruit. Coconuts are not considered heart healthy by cardiologists because the fat is saturated rather than unsaturated. Nuts are a good source of fiber, vitamin E, and L-arginine. Peanuts also contain resveratrol as pointed out by an earlier by Celticmusl.
  • Celticmusl

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    Aug 16, 2009 2:21 AM GMT
    muchmorethanmuscle said
    Celticmusl saidpeanuts are a great source of resveratrol, it will keep you young and ornery.


    There are studies that indicate this is the case for insects (namely fruit flies) but not in mice and in humans the debate is not yet in.



    Also, peanuts are an excellent source of arginine. As many of us know arginine seems to help with nitric oxide blood levels and can possibly help increase growth hormone levels.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't eat peanuts just because they might be good for me, pending scientific research. I eat them because they taste good. Considering they seem to have a lot of great nutrients for you(I haven't even mentioned ZINC) it just makes me want to eat them more!


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    Aug 16, 2009 12:14 PM GMT
    The oils in tree nuts, as others have said, are very good for you. Peanuts, while not tree nuts, also contain monounsaturated oils which are pretty good for you. Some commercial peanut butters contain added hydrogenated oils for enhanced smoothness, so try to avoid these at all costs.

    I think it's good that you eat organic nut-butters, however you might want to try and eat a little less organic peanut butter. Though this is still not proven (at least I can't find any studies on it) it is thought that since they are not treated with man-made pesticides (contrary to Chucky's statement) the peanuts used for organic peanut butter are more susceptible to contamination with the fungus Aspergillus flavus which produces aflatoxin, a known carcinogen. Aflatoxin is known to be found in minute quantities in many nut products, but in levels that are acceptable to the FDA. Though it is being consumed in small quantities, aflatoxin can contribute to cellular and genetic damage over time, increasing the body's rate of aging and potentially increasing cancer risk. In lieu of organic peanut butter you may want to try cashew butter as cashews are less prone to contamination by aspergillus, I think this may be due to the manner in which they are processed. Unfortunately almonds, as much as I love them, also seem to be contaminated quite frequently. I definitely don't think you should stop eating peanut and almond butter altogether, but this is just something to keep in mind.

    So yeah, keep eating nuts, tone down the peanuts, try some cashew butter. It's good for you (and I think it tastes better).
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    Aug 16, 2009 12:17 PM GMT
    Another benefit of eating cashews (and mangoes): it is thought to reduce the severity of the allergic response to poison ivy/poison oak, because some oils in both of those are very similar to urushiol, the oil which is responsible for the nasty itching/burning/grossness.
  • Latenight30

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    Aug 16, 2009 12:37 PM GMT
    I'd love to keep nuts at the office but there is some poor unfortunate soul has a nut allergy. GRR i couldn't live without peanut butter. but nuts are healthy.
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    Aug 16, 2009 12:43 PM GMT
    this has inspired me to grab my soy nutter and some whole wheat and fiber crackers that were given to me earlier this week