Jocks with MBAs

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    Aug 16, 2009 12:07 AM GMT
    I am about 1/3 of the way through my first semester of an MBA program and as I study on weekends and into the wee hours of the night, I find myself wondering, "why on earth did I go back to school!?"
    I am curious how many RJ-ers out there have MBAs? Did you find it useful or rewarding? Do you believe it has given you an extra edge?
    Are there any others out there currently studying for your MBAs?

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    Aug 16, 2009 12:58 AM GMT
    Hang in there! I'm also currently doing my MBA. Yeah, it can be draining, especially when group dynamics are not favourable. Don't know what you studied in college, but this is my first formal bit of business education, so it has been a good learning experience.
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    Aug 16, 2009 1:00 AM GMT
    I think the cartoon speaks volumes about the value. I have an MS and it's great for the resume and probably opened some doors, but without the practical work experience and 'street smarts' it doesn't matter how many degrees you have.
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    Aug 16, 2009 1:11 AM GMT
    Depends......

    We hire MBA's from a few schools. For the guys going into European or Middle Eastern operations we hire from the Insead program in France as well as the IMD program in Switzerland. All go through an internal two year program before being pushed out into field offices. Most MBA's grads are pretty green fresh ouot of school. (My father would say "wet behind the ears.")

    In the U.S. we recruit from Harvard and MIT's Sloan. Not too many of these guys have been hired recently as not much is left for us in the U.S.

    Having said that, one of the ost dangerous things a CEO can do is have MBA's runing around and he not know what they are up to........

    Good luck!!!
  • kietkat

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    Aug 16, 2009 1:42 AM GMT
    Though I'm not sure this applies 100% with my situation, I have gone back to school and completed my first year of grad school for my MS in Chemistry. Before that I had a fairly good paying position at a biotech firm, which I was with for a couple years. I found that going back to school was somewhat difficult but absolutely necessary, especially in the science field. Eventually I got back into student mode and studying everyday seemed natural again icon_biggrin.gif.

    I would think an advance degree in any field would help anyone in some form or another.


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    Aug 16, 2009 1:46 AM GMT
    Half way through mine (part-time), while working full-time. It's hasn't been too difficult time wise, except when there's a group project/s. Then, it's a huge pain in my ass.

    And this semester I'm playing Rugby, and the team's Treasurer. Yeah, plate's pretty full. icon_wink.gif

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    Aug 16, 2009 1:52 AM GMT
    It depends on the industry and the direction you want to take with your career.

    For me, an MBA is pretty useless. Not unless, I want to switch over to middle management. But if I want to stay on the technical side of things, I'm better off spending the time/money learning new technologies.
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    Aug 16, 2009 1:59 AM GMT
    I'm still hoping, myself, that the finances and time invested in my graduate degree (doctorate) will pay off.

    Meanwhile, since you are a gay MBA, you might take interest in the networking opportunities that take place every year at the Reaching Out Conference...

    www.reachingoutmba.org

    Check it out...may be of interest...although I wonder if it's mostly applicable to younger, full-time students. Not sure.
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    Aug 16, 2009 2:08 AM GMT
    Hey,

    I have 2 Master's degrees and a CMA.... It is very useful to have a MBA. It is more like a door opener.... Keep on workin it will pay off..

    cheers
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    Aug 16, 2009 2:19 AM GMT
    Yeah I've got an MBA too....or will next week. Its been a great experience, but I have yet to get a job.
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    Aug 16, 2009 2:22 AM GMT
    Two undergraduate degrees and my JD in Law... worked my butt off and it does pay off eventually. I decided to follow a different path, however which required even more study and the Series 7 exam. It was worse than the bar. I had thought about my MBA.. but probably wouldn't have made much difference.
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    Aug 16, 2009 2:58 AM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidI decided to follow a different path, however which required even more study and the Series 7 exam. It was worse than the bar.


    Gawd, the Series 7 was a bitch! I almost gave-up and went home during the test's lunch break. Decided to go back and finish it just for practice. Glad I stayed; got an 86. icon_biggrin.gif

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    Aug 16, 2009 3:00 AM GMT
    RPMSoccer saidMeanwhile, since you are a gay MBA, you might take interest in the networking opportunities that take place every year at the Reaching Out Conference...

    www.reachingoutmba.org

    Check it out...may be of interest...although I wonder if it's mostly applicable to younger, full-time students. Not sure.


    Has anyone gone to this? Last year, it was over Halloween weekend. Obviously, a lesbian must have scheduled that, not a gay man. icon_lol.gif This year, it's a week or two earlier. Anyway, I'm just wondering if it's really worth it?
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    Aug 16, 2009 3:37 AM GMT
    I used to work in recruitment, and I placed many executives into roles. Many of them had no undergraduate study but had an MBA; many only had the MBA and no great work experience. The work experience, complemented with the MBA, was always the winning combination.

    Hang in there with the study!
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    Aug 16, 2009 5:19 AM GMT
    Thanks for the encouragement guys!

    NakedDevil, I feel your pain. I am working full time and taking a full course load. When I signed up for the classes I 'forgot' the thumb rule that states you need 3-4 hours of prep/study time per hour of class time. Since I am doing 10.5 hours in class each week, its becoming a real bear! When I got my BS and MS, I was a full time student so the study time did not impact too much of my free time.

    Anyone else take advantage of any professional networking organizations?
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    Aug 16, 2009 6:28 AM GMT
    I started my MBA at 23 and finished when I was 24. I did it full time and finished within 3 semesters. It was a lot of work but fairly simple and mostly interesting. Career-wise I don't think the MBA helped too much - but it does give you a broader perspective. I am self-employed now and having an MBA also helped with my organizational skills.
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    Aug 16, 2009 7:11 AM GMT
    I am glad I am doing the MBA now instead of earlier in my career. I now have 15 years of managerial experience to draw upon, so it makes the class discussions more fruitful.

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    I can definitely see how the MBA would help in a small business situation...
  • Anto

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    Aug 16, 2009 8:17 AM GMT
    What if you continue to study into the wee hours of the night not due to some course in college or for a degree but out of pursuit of personal interests and self-education?
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    Aug 16, 2009 8:34 AM GMT
    Anto saidWhat if you continue to study into the wee hours of the night not due to some course in college or for a degree but out of pursuit of personal interests and self-education?


    I don't see a difference... One method gives you credentials, the other does not but both, hopefully, make you smarter and better informed.
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    Aug 16, 2009 1:55 PM GMT
    Anto saidWhat if you continue to study into the wee hours of the night not due to some course in college or for a degree but out of pursuit of personal interests and self-education?


    Many will say that you will not get the accreditation without going to a proper school. There is also the advantage of building a network amongst your classmates during an MBA (quite different from an BS, MS or PhD). Of course, another advantage is being able to bounce ideas off others and to tap their brains... ;)
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    Aug 16, 2009 1:58 PM GMT
    NakedDevil said
    HndsmKansan saidI decided to follow a different path, however which required even more study and the Series 7 exam. It was worse than the bar.


    Gawd, the Series 7 was a bitch! I almost gave-up and went home during the test's lunch break. Decided to go back and finish it just for practice. Glad I stayed; got an 86. icon_biggrin.gif




    It was difficult. You have to have 70 to get a passing grade and unlike the bar exam (where you received notification via the mail) Fat envelope= passing, skinny= failed... the series 7 you just "punched the old button" to see if you passed (after 6 hours). I thought I flunked actually. I got an 89
    (which normally would be disappointing), but I was just fuc---- glad to have it over with!
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    Aug 16, 2009 2:08 PM GMT
    I studied 2 days for the series 7 & 63 and passed both in just one go... i literally did not spend more than 5-6 hours studying for both the tests... most of it was common sense really... oh well.
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    Aug 16, 2009 2:11 PM GMT
    I decided to get my JD instead of the MBA. I passed the bar, but now with the horrible economy there are no jobs. So to answer your question was it helpful...so far, no. However, my answer could change when the economy improves!
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    Aug 16, 2009 8:00 PM GMT

    MBA from MIT -- Sloan (1999)