Do Gays read books anymore..................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Aug 16, 2009 9:35 PM GMT
    Where Have All the Readers Gone?

    My own assessment of this declining readership and seeming growing disinterest by gays and lesbians is, of course, subjective. But I am one of those readers out there, who searches for good gay books. And I'm old enough to remember when one had to settle for pre-Stonewall novels that usually cast the gay character in the roll of villain, neurotic, or loser who, in the end, had to suffer retribution for his affliction. So what has changed? There are literally thousands of titles available to gay/lesbian readers and, at a time when we should all be prospering in our culture, it seems on the verge of bankruptcy.


    IM Writing a book, a hot book, filled with intrigue true life, coming out but with a twist. imagine when you were young and gay and the Whole scene was unknown to you. something so new you could barely contain yourselves. if you did'nt go through this consider yourself lucky HERES ANoTHER ROUGH DRAFT EXCERPT OUT OF ONE OF MY CHAPTERS, THE BOOK WILL BE FINISHED SOON. THEN REVISED AND HOPEFULLY FINDING A HOME IN ONE OF THE MAJOR PUBLISHING HOUSES. SO UNTIL IT IS AVAILABLE TO THE MASSES ENJOY THIS FIRST LOOK............................



    It had been another month and July was scorching. Floating around in the pool i came to think about how fast I was rising, It had only been one year since being rescued from Eon Trash with the help of pre-school parade and big mike's crew. My ungratefulness was starting to show, I only remember seeing big mike a handful of times that month, I was easing off them and I was beggining to stand on my own. The invites to parties kept coming In and sharing them with the boys meant more exposure into the scene for us. I would imagine our lives coinciding with 4 other people i saw similarities in, but that was a t.v show and We were'nt in a big city and no access to fabulous one of a kind designers. Well there was always scottsdale but that was later on down the line, and who was I kidding we were just boys. The drugs continued, antione was going broke. I recall one unfourtunate event, Nate and I had paid a visit to antione's apartment for a suprise visit, but nothing prepared us for what we saw next. Reciepts from everywhere all over the apartment, not a few here and there, antiones floor was barely visible from all the reciepts. They had become part of the floor, engulfed in it actually. That was the first talk we had with him about investing his money and it would'nt be the last,well what was left of his trust fund anyway, but he did'nt heed our warning. Antione at that moment did'nt think anything was wrong with the situation, because it was all good for a while but like all things that come to an end, spending friviously does eat through money expendentially fast. I knew in my heart that this lesson was something that only he could learn from when he was ready, but time was not his friend and i often wondered if his lesson would come too soon to the end.



    stay tuned for the rest, i will be posting different parts of the book, and I want everyone to know that this book is a memoir of my experiences and the experiences of those around me. NaMes have not been changed right here, because again i want to explore different tatics to see which ones will tell the story better., ,,,,,,,,,

  • calibro

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    Aug 17, 2009 12:54 AM GMT
    nothing to do with gays... society in general doesn't read much
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    Aug 17, 2009 12:57 AM GMT
    calibro saidnothing to do with gays... society in general doesn't read much


    *sigh* I agree. I love reading. I'm not a huge fan of gay-themed books however; the few I have bought have been quite poorly written.

    But reading = awesomeness.
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    Aug 17, 2009 1:04 AM GMT
    syd_hockey_79 said
    calibro saidnothing to do with gays... society in general doesn't read much


    *sigh* I agree. I love reading. I'm not a huge fan of gay-themed books however; the few I have bought have been quite poorly written.

    But reading = awesomeness.


    I too agree that for the most part LGBT is just awful (when it's openly being gay, at least in contemporary fiction... ah, how I miss the days of Oscar Wilde, E.M Forrestor, and Willa Cather). But there are some amazing titles.

    The Year of Ice by Brian Malloy is very short and for teenagers, but it is complex and marvelous in it being a gay protagonist who just happens to be gay. Beautiful work, but I am disappoint all his subsequent novels were trash.

    The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay isn't gay, but one of the main character is gay, and possess one of the most endearing and heart-breaking romances I have ever read. It was written my Michael Chabon and won the Pulitzer prize. Its scope is breathtaking.

    At Swim, Two Boys by Jamie O'Neil is more than a gay novel. It isn't just the best gay piece of fiction ever written, it's one of the best works of fiction written in the last fifty years. It's the only book, aside from Infinite Jest, that I have ever seen appear in graduate school cannon across the board that happened to written this century. Be warned, it's very Irish in style, so if you hated Joyce, you might not like it, but he verges between Joyce and Llywellen. Again, a masterpiece on every level and you will cry.
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    Aug 17, 2009 1:11 AM GMT
    jprichva saidInfinite Jest = Excellent Doorstop


    Oh it's rather too large for a doorstop... because of it's sheer size and premise, I always hoped I would watch a dark comedy film where someone is beaten to death with a copy.
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    Aug 17, 2009 1:11 AM GMT
    I'm reading books to prep for the GREs. Had NO IDEA I could calculate 38 X 22 in my head before. *the more you know*
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    Aug 17, 2009 1:13 AM GMT
    JakeBenson saidI'm reading books to prep for the GREs. Had NO IDEA I could calculate 38 X 22 in my head before. *the more you know*


    Read Kavalier and Clay... one of the downfalls of Chabon is his need to sound intelligent, and on every page is an SAT word.
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    Aug 17, 2009 1:13 AM GMT
    I'm a HUGE bookworm. I love reading as much as the next...oh wait...people don't read anymore. um....I love reading as much as the next anachronism icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 17, 2009 1:14 AM GMT
    p.s. 836
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    Aug 17, 2009 1:16 AM GMT
    I am totally crushing on JakeBenson.

    And I read all the time - the Kindle is one of the best things I've ever purchased.

    And if you're in the market for good gay fiction -

    Nightswimmer by Joseph Olshan
    Leave Myself Behind by Bart Yates

    My two favorites - and I've read em all.
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    Aug 17, 2009 1:18 AM GMT
    badmikeyt saidI am totally crushing on JakeBenson.

    And I read all the time - the Kindle is one of the best things I've ever purchased.

    And if you're in the market for good gay fiction -

    Nightswimmer by Joseph Olshan
    Leave Myself Behind by Bart Yates

    My two favorites - and I've read em all.


    You ever read At Swim, Two Boys?
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    Aug 17, 2009 1:22 AM GMT
    I still read. Actually besides my iphone, my kindle is like one of my daily must have accessories.

    last books I read ---> Pride and Prejudice and Zombies (awesome)
    Confessions of A Jane Austen Addict




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    Aug 17, 2009 1:25 AM GMT
    calibro said
    badmikeyt saidI am totally crushing on JakeBenson.

    And I read all the time - the Kindle is one of the best things I've ever purchased.

    And if you're in the market for good gay fiction -

    Nightswimmer by Joseph Olshan
    Leave Myself Behind by Bart Yates

    My two favorites - and I've read em all.


    You ever read At Swim, Two Boys?


    I did and I loved it! But you'd already mentioned it so I brought two new ones to the party. icon_smile.gif
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    Aug 17, 2009 1:26 AM GMT
    I used to read for leisure back in high school and college. But these day, I mainly read technical books.
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    Aug 17, 2009 1:27 AM GMT
    the only gay literature I've read is Walt Whitman, Oscar Wilde, and I've heard of Kavalier and Clay
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    Aug 17, 2009 1:37 AM GMT
    I'm in the middle of The Appeal (John Grisham), and then I'm going to read something gay. My sis gave me a nonfiction book called Beefcake, which almost qualifies as gay fiction, hehe.

    I'm going to look into the books mentioned above...thanks for the suggestions.

    I want to put my two cents in for Michael Thomas Ford - a great modern day gay writer, along with Augusten Burroughs and Paul Monette.
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    Aug 17, 2009 1:39 AM GMT
    Eh....feeling like an outcast here...since I don't only read gay literature (my literature taste includes from Tom Woffe to Jane Austen). But all in all...I read lol
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    Aug 17, 2009 1:41 AM GMT
    Not gay lit, but I just finished reading "The Mayor of Casterbridge" by Thomas Hardy. Excellent book. Next on the agenda is Carl Sagan's "Cosmos."
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    Aug 17, 2009 2:02 AM GMT
    I've just started - The Tragedy of Today's Gays by Larry Kramer
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    Aug 17, 2009 2:07 AM GMT
    I tend to dislike current lit... the majority of it now seems to be more about the author trying to thump their chests then actually telling an intelligent, engrossing, and most importantly, entertaining story.

    I'll take my cheesy fantasy books that know how to have fun now, thanks icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 17, 2009 2:11 AM GMT
    Lol! Shouldn't it be...

    "Don't gays read books anymore?"

    Couldn't help myself.

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    Aug 17, 2009 2:30 AM GMT
    creature saidNot gay lit, but I just finished reading "The Mayor of Casterbridge" by Thomas Hardy. Excellent book. Next on the agenda is Carl Sagan's "Cosmos."


    I'm so glad to hear that! I hear Thomas Hardy. Jude the Obscure, Far From the Maddening Crowd, and my favorite, Tess of the D'Bervilles
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    Aug 17, 2009 2:51 AM GMT
    no, books suck.
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    Aug 17, 2009 3:18 AM GMT
    GFORCE saidLol! Shouldn't it be...

    "Don't gays read books anymore?"

    Couldn't help myself.



    Actually, the OP is correct. "Don't gays read books anymore?" is a different form of statement for the same idea.

    It's like asking "Do you love me?" in which "do" implies a lack of understanding or knowledge. "Don't you love me?" implies a preexisting knowledge in which that knowledge is in doubt.
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    Aug 17, 2009 4:04 AM GMT
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    GFORCE saidLol! Shouldn't it be...

    "Don't gays read books anymore?"

    Couldn't help myself.



    Actually, the OP is correct. "Don't gays read books anymore?" is a different form of statement for the same idea.

    It's like asking "Do you love me?" in which "do" implies a lack of understanding or knowledge. "Don't you love me?" implies a preexisting knowledge in which that knowledge is in doubt.


    OK, you and I are going to get along great 'cause I really get off on this stuff!!

    Doesn't the "anymore" effect this sentence in a way you're ignoring with your example?

    Let's break it down... "Anymore" infers that gays clearly used to read books. Simply by his asking the question, we can deduce the OP feels they now do not.. As in don't. So...

    Do gays not read books anymore? -becomes-
    "Don't gays read books anymore?"

    One would not answer him in retort by saying "They do read books anymore"?
    Nor would one say "Do you love me anymore"?

    You're move,
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