Workout energy - need to get more focus and stronger pumps for lifting.

  • adidas0783

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    Aug 18, 2009 2:28 AM GMT
    Hey Guys,

    So right now I am at 168 on my 5'8 frame. I have made some progress, however, I feel like I have hit a plateau.

    I need to have more energy and stronger pumps in the gym. I am currently looking for something that tastes good and is safe for "workout strength". I have tried creatine. Initially, I had some gains but now nothing. I need some major recommendations as I am looking to add more mass. I tried NO EXPLODE from BSN and that tore my stomach up...hell I have a stomach of steel.

    I do everything else right. I eat healthy and as frequently as possible. Drink plenty of water and drink alcohol in moderation, ZERO soda. I get enough protein, healthy fats and complex carbs via whole grains, fruits and veggies and supplement additional protein 30-40 grams after lifting of 100% whey and then 30 grams of slow burning proteins before bed. I sleep like a baby and break up lifting 4 days a week getting enough rest between muscle groups w/ 1 hour sessions. I do 2-3 days of cardio w/ 30 min sessions.

    I am going to The Vitamin Shoppe on Wed and would like to get a heads up on something I can stack with my protein supp and diet. What has worked for you with results?


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    Aug 18, 2009 2:49 AM GMT
    Coffee works. If you're not a coffee drinker, then you can buy caffeine pills. Red Bull is also nice. I only buy it when it's on sale, since it's kinda pricey.

    N.O. supplements are hit or miss. Works great for some guys. And for other guys, it's just wasted money and multiple trips to the bathroom. icon_lol.gif

    I mentioned this in a different thread, but I like the Labrada SuperCharge N.O. supplement. It tastes great and it doesn't upset my stomach at all. I get consistent results.. good energy and nice pump. I alternate it every other week.

    Other than supplements, you also might want to consider switching up your routine. Sometimes, your body gets accustomed to your routine and your workouts are less effective.

    Try switching around the exercise order of your current routine. Or try different techniques like pyramids, drop sets, pump sets, and so on.
  • UFJocknerd

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    Aug 18, 2009 3:09 AM GMT
    When I plateaued at 170 when I was 21, creatine and eating more than any human should ever eat worked well to get me to 200.

    How long have you been lifting? Be sure you're not just lamenting the loss of your newbie gaining.
  • MadeinMich

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    Aug 18, 2009 7:08 PM GMT
    UFJocknerd saidWhen I plateaued at 170 when I was 21, creatine and eating more than any human should ever eat worked well to get me to 200.

    How long have you been lifting? Be sure you're not just lamenting the loss of your newbie gaining.


    This is interesting. Could you elaborate on this newbie gain? How do you overcome it? After your initial gains does it generally start to take longer to gain muscle after the first couple of months?
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    Aug 18, 2009 7:31 PM GMT
    Animal_Pump.jpg and red_bull.jpg

    Don't worry if you start babbling uncontrollably and your hands start shaking...it will stop
  • adidas0783

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    Aug 19, 2009 1:52 AM GMT
    I have been lifting for a year and a half now....I am really a novice at this point. Made some great health changes as far as diet and regular fitness goes. Just want to make some gains.

    Thanks for the replies so far. It is appreciated.

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    Aug 19, 2009 11:38 AM GMT
    Too many guys get caught up in how they should eat and what supplements to take. Most of it is BS.

    Lift heavy. Work out hard. Muscle takes time. Strength comes first.

    Just lift and lift heavy. Lift smart. Most supplements get pissed out. Don't believe me, read the real literature. Not fitness mags. University studies. There are so many good sites that list real studies. Not the mag info. Read anything from The University Of Ohio. They list great studies. Scientific studies of supplements used in a controlled scientific way. Not the fitness mags that sell you what their advertisers sell.

    Be smart. Supplements are 99% a waste. Mostly a placebo effect. You think they work, so they work.
  • UFJocknerd

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    Aug 19, 2009 12:44 PM GMT
    MadeinMich said
    UFJocknerd saidWhen I plateaued at 170 when I was 21, creatine and eating more than any human should ever eat worked well to get me to 200.

    How long have you been lifting? Be sure you're not just lamenting the loss of your newbie gaining.


    This is interesting. Could you elaborate on this newbie gain? How do you overcome it? After your initial gains does it generally start to take longer to gain muscle after the first couple of months?


    Newbies almost always see awesome gains because they're just starting to teach their muscles how to work together and nerves to fire to lift heavy things. I'm not sure what you mean by "overcome"; you just aren't going to see a linear progression of gains.

    OP: how long have you been on your current routine? Changing it up might help. Or, bring your weights up higher (but still safe). Do you keep a workout log? That would help you see gains more clearly and see where you can lift heavier than you are. I'd also chart your diet out so you know *exactly* how much your eating (plenty of people *think* they're eating a lot, but really are only on some measly 3000-ish cal diet).
  • adidas0783

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    Aug 19, 2009 2:03 PM GMT
    So as far as keeping a workout log and charting what I eat...NO. That will be my next move so that I can have data on my progress.

    Going to definitely start that today.

    As far as eating goes...I eat very healthy. Lots of proteins, healthy fats and complex carbs. Per my body weight I shot for around 160 grams of protein per day. I do supplement w/ ON 100% Oats and Whey (the chocolate mint when available rocks my rocks!) after lifting. Working 12 hr shifts in a hospital can be a challenge and I am lucky if I get enough time to eat lunch. To sum it up, I have gotten in the habit of eating more frequently and smaller portions. However, I am not at the 3,000 calorie mark. I LOVE FOOD! So bulking it up should be no issue.
  • UFJocknerd

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    Aug 19, 2009 3:11 PM GMT
    You're not at 3000? 3000's not very much food if you're trying to build muscle. I'd do something to get that clean calorie count way up.

    I *LOVE* ON Chocolate mint. But if you're not at 3000 cals, I wouldn't be using protein powder--most of your protein should be coming from real food, not powder.
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    Aug 24, 2009 9:06 PM GMT
    Coffee before your workout
  • adidas0783

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    Aug 26, 2009 8:21 PM GMT
    UFJocknerd saidYou're not at 3000? 3000's not very much food if you're trying to build muscle. I'd do something to get that clean calorie count way up.

    I *LOVE* ON Chocolate mint. But if you're not at 3000 cals, I wouldn't be using protein powder--most of your protein should be coming from real food, not powder.


    Ok, so I am just over 3,000 calories on a daily basis. I have been counting. My protein supplements are just for first thing in the AM and after lifting to get 25-30 g of fast digesting protein to get where it needs to go - to my muscles.

    I started taking "JACKED" for lifting energy and so far I am noticing that I am getting more powerful pumps and lifting heavier (of course adding more weight gradually).

    Getting a lot of quality protein from chicken, turkey and clean fish. I even throw a big steak in there once a week. Plenty of complex carbs, fruits and veggies and healthy fats.

    I love food, no doubt about that and I can eat more food than any man ever should LOL. I guess I am well on my way. Just will take time.