Homosexual overtones in the HORROR film...

  • HorrorHound

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    Aug 18, 2009 10:51 PM GMT
    Last week I began a thread of our "fav" lowbudget horror films growing up through the years.

    Now, time for getting deeper with it. Many o' horror films over the decades have/did push the homosexual envelope .... not outright slamming it in your face, but the overtones either just being there, or the films plot serving as a slice of "homosexual panic". Horror is rife with many social/political subtexts of our times, as well as horrors dealing with growing up, coming out, being different & your body working against you.

    Here are some that I found that came to mind:

    FEAR NO EVIL (1981) - Andrew is a introverted Highschool student. He's also the antichrist. In this film, written/directed by the "then-in-the-closet" Frank Laloggia , he spills out all his inner demons (literally) with this "the worm that turns" tale of the antichrist making his return to earth. In it, there are many scenes of latent homosexual erotica, including a complete nude scene in the school locker room when Andrew (the antichrist) & his bully share a kiss in a fit of rage.

    HOWEVER...


    THE one that is blatantly homo-erotic & charged with many gay "coming out" themes is 1985's A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET PART 2: FREDDY'S REVENGE

    In it, the lead character is Jesse, fresh from moving into the infamous house on elm street (the very house the heroine Nancy Thompson resided in from PART 1).

    Every night after his arrival, he screams (correction: squeeles like a chick) from a nightmare covered/soaked in night sweat. While "befriending" the rich neighborhood girl, they discover a diary that belonged to Nancy (the previous heroine from part 1) in his closet. There, they read about Freddy Krueger & her nightmares. Which begins jesse's panic - he too has been having horrifying nightmares of Freddy.

    Seems that Freddy is pursuing Jesse to take over/possess his body, to come out in the real world.

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    This is RIFE with so many inuendo's from the get-go. Aside from something "demonic" being in his body wanting to come out, he gets urges. These urges usually end of him killing someone via Freddy.

    In one awkward scene, Jesse leaves in middle of the night to a "leather" bar, where he encounters his sadistic highschool P.E. Coach. There, the PE COACH makes Jesse run laps around the gymnasium (in the middle of the night???! while in your leather bound outfit??) - only for supernatural forces to TIE HIM UP in the locker room showers & get his bare ass whipped repeatedly by jump ropes before freddy "comes out" of Jesse.

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    Throughout (including in a climatic scene when he crawls through his near naked friend GRADY's bedroom window to "confess" to him his secret), he mentions something being "inside" him that needs/wants to come out. This scene it "literally" comes out of him!

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    Only near the end, when his "girlfriend" (the rich friend of the neighborhood he befriended) urges him to "fight" freddy from the inside out. She admits to Jesse her "love" for him .. & they kiss. Thus, defeating freddy & the "evil" lurking inside him.


    It's fun dissecting this - now ya'll try some!
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    Aug 19, 2009 12:45 AM GMT
    I don't know about all this, but I remember watching the first Nightmare on Elm Street. The scene of Johnny Depp laying on his bed, wearing a half cut off football jersey, showing his stomach... let's just say that was definitely a pivotal moment of self-awareness in my life. icon_lol.gif

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    Aug 19, 2009 12:57 AM GMT
    Oh yeah -- I definitely remember the overtones in Nightmare 2. The scene where Jessie practically jumped into bed with Grady was -- really memorable icon_biggrin.gif I heard that the director claimed years later the gay theme was not deliberate -- but it sure looked deliberate to me !!

    The vamp movie with Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise fits this description too.

    So does Fright Night.
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    Aug 19, 2009 1:05 AM GMT
    One of the earliest horror films with gay overtones (or undertones) is Dracula's Daughter, from 1936:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0027545/
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    Aug 19, 2009 1:21 AM GMT
    wow. I've never seen it like that before. I should watch these movies again icon_smile.gif
  • rockleetpt

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    Aug 19, 2009 1:26 AM GMT
    Well guess it's no better time to dump this cracked article.

    http://www.cracked.com/article_17097_5-most-unintentionally-gay-horror-movies.html

    And guess who's at the top? Yep, A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET PART 2: FREDDY'S REVENGE.

    Enjoy!
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    Aug 19, 2009 1:31 AM GMT
    LOL The Covenant....that was just a wet dream for me ;)
  • calibro

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    Aug 19, 2009 2:10 AM GMT
    LittleDudeWithMuscles saidOh yeah -- I definitely remember the overtones in Nightmare 2. The scene where Jessie practically jumped into bed with Grady was -- really memorable icon_biggrin.gif I heard that the director claimed years later the gay theme was not deliberate -- but it sure looked deliberate to me !!

    The vamp movie with Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise fits this description too.

    So does Fright Night.


    Well, that character in Interview With The Vampire is gay, at least in the Anne Rice novels.
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    Aug 19, 2009 2:27 AM GMT
    The guy who played Jesse in ANOES2 is Mark Patton. What porn films did he make? Just curious...icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Aug 19, 2009 2:33 AM GMT
    jvstrng saidHuge horror fan...awsome topic.

    ANOES2 is by far the gayest "unintentional" horror movie ever. The movie is one big analogy for the gay experience. The guy who played Jesse went on to do gay porn..lol

    I love Friday the 13th..but this one is a head scratcher. In Jason Goes To Hell, a coroner possessed by Jason kidnaps a cop. He strips him down and ties him to a table with leather straps. Then, he SHAVES him. WTF!?! The scene ends with the coroner giving the cop "tongue" with a black snake demon carrying Jason's soul.

    Some behind the scenes Friday the 13th gay stuff. The wheelchair guy in Part 2 was gay (died a few years ago). The lead guy, Nick, from part 7 is gay in real life...so was the guy who they were having the birthday party for.






    ....& the black dude in it, & I'm also positive the sci-fi nerd with the mullet was as well LOL The cast often referred this one "FriGAY the 13th"

    Oh & YES - the JEEPERS CREEPERS series has evident "homosexual" (also , but NOT in same category, pedophile overtones as well...so some say)

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    Aug 19, 2009 2:36 AM GMT
    GigoloAssassin saidThe guy who played Jesse in ANOES2 is Mark Patton. What porn films did he make? Just curious...icon_rolleyes.gif



    I'm not knowledgeable 'bout Mark Patton from ANOES 2 doing porn afterwards (though he DID "come out"! lol)....however, "EVIL" (stephen geoffreys??) from FRIGHT NIGHT went on to do gay porn. I saw one of his a LONG time ago - "HARD CORPS." hahaha

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    Aug 19, 2009 2:47 AM GMT
    jvstrng saidOh yeah..I forgot about FriGAY the 13th. I have the book Crystal Lake Memories and read it cover to cover icon_wink.gif



    You & I both!!!! icon_wink.gificon_cool.gif
  • bishop65

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    Aug 19, 2009 3:06 AM GMT
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  • Aug 19, 2009 5:25 AM GMT
    Sleepaway Camp!!!
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086320/
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    Aug 19, 2009 5:29 AM GMT
    does "steel magnolias" count as a gay horror movie?
  • kinetic

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    Aug 19, 2009 6:12 AM GMT
    SciBuiltAustin saidSleepaway Camp!!!
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086320/


    YES! That was the 1st one that came to mind. That last scene was freaky and way out of left field!
    (freaky cuz it was unexpected ^_^ )
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    Aug 19, 2009 6:36 AM GMT
    Michael Bein in THE FAN ( A cute yet psychotic ) closet case.

    JEEPERS CREEPERS 2 ( A & F gay horror at it's best. The script should have just said... COCK, GAY,ASS, FAG repeat for 90mins. )

    Milo Ventimiglia as Bo In CURSED

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    Aug 19, 2009 7:04 AM GMT
    Prettyboi_miami saidLOL The Covenant....that was just a wet dream for me ;)


    Tell me about it! The Covenant was pretty much Spank-o-vision! icon_twisted.gif
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    Aug 19, 2009 10:54 PM GMT
    This thread makes me very happy. People make me out to be so odd because I read into films and novels. Its just my thing though. I believe that there are so many hidden meanings and if not, then so much can easily be applied to something else.

    I think there's a lot of hidden messages about promiscuity in many of the old horror films as well.

    The worst things always happened the sluts, many times right after they had had sex.
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    Oct 30, 2009 1:58 PM GMT
    Well there are a lot of gays in Hollywood so this isn't really a far stretch. I'm always noticing double meanings and stuff in horror movies so why shouldn't some of them be homosexual overtones?
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    Oct 30, 2009 2:06 PM GMT
    dancerjack saiddoes "steel magnolias" count as a gay horror movie?

    Ha ha ha ha!
    I saw the play on B'dway. Movie: good, play: great!

    As for Horror films, I'd always taken a simplistic view of homoeroticism in the context of whether or not it had any guys with great bodies and relatively undressed.
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    Oct 30, 2009 2:22 PM GMT
    There are two films from way back that i remember had scenes that used imagery and context to suggest perversion and sin by portraying a gay character. The characters were shown to be sleezy, creepy and evil.

    Remember the movie "Tommy"? The "Uncle Ernie song....fiddling about.

    and the other one was

    Dune, from years ago..........a scene where the all powerful bad guy obviously likes boys.
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    Jun 05, 2010 11:12 PM GMT
    Yeah, "Nightmare on Elm St. 2" is surely a classic case of homoerotic horror film. But common, anyone in here heared about 2004 crappy slasher film "HellBent"? It was uproariously advertised as the first, the one and only gay slasher film. Film sucked badly... icon_razz.gif

    And horror films with gay threads are also "Cursed" (high-shcool closet gay wrestler character) and "Venom" (2005; supporting character plated by Eric Szmanda if I remember)

    Oh, there is also a British horror "comedy" called "Lesbian Vampire Killers". Title reveals all ;]
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    Jun 06, 2010 10:59 PM GMT
    warsawstud saidYeah, "Nightmare on Elm St. 2" is surely a classic case of homoerotic horror film.]


    Yep. The gay overtones in Nightmare on Elm St 2 were intentional. It was written back in the 80's during the AIDS epidemic. The director and writer wanted to bring a gay character into the film to bring awareness to gay rights so they turned down the violence and turned up the homoerotic nature of the film. The pleather sheets when Jesse "sleeps over" at Ron's house, the 80's short shorts, the shower scene.. it was kind of obvious.

    I'll add to the list,

    Scream. The killers have a bisexual dynamic and this was even parodied in Scary Movie

    Anything by David Decoteau is very homoerotic and practically borders on being gay porn. Especially The Brotherhood IV.
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    Jun 06, 2010 11:06 PM GMT
    Very VERY interesting...hmmm...