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  • GQjock

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    Aug 19, 2009 10:56 PM GMT
    I just heard that Fox's Shepard Smith was gay

    What do you guys think of outing gay celebrities and politicians?
    I am torn on the issue
    I generally don't like when people are forced to do things but then again the positive exposure we have gained over the last few years are a direct result of very prominent men and women coming out of the closet

    I also am very much in favor of outing politicians who are anti-gay in their voting in congress or during their political careers

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    Aug 19, 2009 11:03 PM GMT
    Unless people are using their positions to advocate anti gay politics or belief I think that their sexuality and who they choose to tell about it is their own business.

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    Aug 20, 2009 12:22 AM GMT
    GQjock saidI just heard that Fox's Shepard Smith was gay

    Oh, come on. Next you're going to tell me Anderson Cooper is gay. No way!
  • Timbales

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    Aug 20, 2009 12:24 AM GMT
    GQjock saidI just heard that Fox's Shepard Smith was gay




    we don't want him
  • groundcombat

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    Aug 20, 2009 12:25 AM GMT
    I always thought he wore too much make up...
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    Aug 20, 2009 12:32 AM GMT
    Timberoo said
    GQjock saidI just heard that Fox's Shepard Smith was gay


    we don't want him


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    Aug 20, 2009 12:50 AM GMT
    Hey GQjock, what you said here, "I generally don't like when people are forced to do things but then again the positive exposure we have gained over the last few years are a direct result of very prominent men and women coming out of the closet"


    ...is very true because they came out themselves, rather than caught off-guard and exposed, (usually with less than friendly intent).


    Coming out is voluntary but being outed isn't.
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    Aug 20, 2009 12:57 AM GMT
    Shepard Smith sure seems gay. Supposedly Anderson Cooper is, as are dozens of celebrities. What're you gonna do though? I don't think it would be cool to out them even if you knew they were gay. Hypocritical politicians? Maybe. Even then I wouldn't "out" someone.
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    Aug 20, 2009 1:05 AM GMT
    Shep Smith is one of the few sane people at Fox. I'll take him.
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    Aug 20, 2009 1:07 AM GMT
    Out every fuck on Fox. Out them all, and let God sort them out.
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    Aug 20, 2009 1:39 AM GMT
    Outing anyone is one of the most despicable things unless it is 1.) some jerk cheating on his wife or 2.) someone who has an anti-gay stance.
  • GQjock

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    Aug 20, 2009 11:24 AM GMT
    Ok .... first of all
    I think everybody knows that Miss Cooper is gay
    You guys mostly seem to be making those statements as a joke
    but you those who have doubts
    I've seen both him and his boyfriend around town together many many times

    And to Meninlove ... I'd agree with you but to a large extent many have been forced out and have gone on to have very healthy careers after
    Barney Frank comes to mind



  • jlly_rnchr

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    Aug 20, 2009 11:45 AM GMT
    Are you just hearing about this because of the movie Outrage?

    Prior to seeing that movie, I was adamantly opposed to outing someone, including gay politicians with bad voting records.

    After that movie, I changed my mind. These men not only voted against all LGBT measures they could find (marriage, discrimation, HIV funding, etc.) but they were also horrible human beings. Public, repeated denials that were insulting, moving their boyfriends out of their state and having a shotgun marriage to be governor, cutting off communication with ex-boyfriends while they pass away from AIDS, taking advantage of pledges at their old frat. Digusting behavior. So, I came to agree with some of you, that this denial and voting record is nothing short of discrimination, and should be punished by being outed as hypocrites.

    That being said, this journalist is not a legislator, he's doing a right wing job on right wing network. He needs a paycheck too.I don't respect him, I wouldn't date him, but I dont' think he belongs on the list of those who deserve to be outed.
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    Aug 20, 2009 11:48 AM GMT
    GQjock saidOk .... first of all
    I think everybody knows that Miss Cooper is gay
    You guys mostly seem to be making those statements as a joke
    but you those who have doubts
    I've seen both him and his boyfriend around town together many many times



    Which of his boyfriend? The black one?

    From what I hear about town A.C is somewhat of a slut.

    And I don't agree to outing people unless the person is a minister railing against gay folks or a politician passing laws
  • jlly_rnchr

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    Aug 20, 2009 11:48 AM GMT
    GQjock saidOk .... first of all
    I think everybody knows that Miss Cooper is gay
    You guys mostly seem to be making those statements as a joke
    but you those who have doubts
    I've seen both him and his boyfriend around town together many many times

    And to Meninlove ... I'd agree with you but to a large extent many have been forced out and have gone on to have very healthy careers after
    Barney Frank comes to mind




    I can't think of another politician who survived the "forced" coming out process. Larry Craig, nope (and thank god). Mark Foley, nope. Jimi McGreevy, nope (and thank god for him too, he's shady).
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    Aug 20, 2009 11:52 AM GMT
    So when is Charlie Crist going to be outed?
  • jlly_rnchr

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    Aug 20, 2009 12:02 PM GMT
    Blackguy4you saidSo when is Charlie Crist going to be outed?


    Well, he was in Outrage already. I hope that situation is re-visited before the GOP picks its presidential nominee for 2012. I'd rather them lose because America doesn't want them, not because of a scandal.
  • mynyun

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    Aug 20, 2009 12:12 PM GMT
    The chance of sleeping with they are nil so I don't worry about it. Unless it helps our rights right along.
  • rnch

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    Aug 20, 2009 12:32 PM GMT
    Global_Citizen said
    GQjock saidI just heard that Fox's Shepard Smith was gay

    Oh, come on. Next you're going to tell me Anderson Cooper is gay. No way!
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    Aug 20, 2009 12:39 PM GMT
    I feel the act of outing some-one for self advancement is selfish, self-centered, self-serving. Or if they have a different political agenda than you, is just plane hatful spitful, vindictive, self-serving.

    Such vile actions can not be justified.
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    Aug 20, 2009 12:42 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidOut every fuck on Fox. Out them all, and let God sort them out.


    I have no issues with them, but I do the outers. Lets not forget all your years in the closet.
  • GQjock

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    Aug 20, 2009 10:40 PM GMT
    I can't think of another politician who survived the "forced" coming out process. Larry Craig, nope (and thank god). Mark Foley, nope. Jimi McGreevy, nope (and thank god for him too, he's shady).

    How about Jim Kolbe of Arizona?
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    Aug 26, 2009 8:12 PM GMT
    Unless they are choosing to hurt other gays, people should have the freedom to out themselves when they are ready. I did not know about Anderson Cooper. I just thought he was cute. Isn't his mother Gloria Vanderbilt?
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    Aug 26, 2009 8:26 PM GMT
    Pattison_the_Great saidI feel the act of outing some-one for self advancement is selfish, self-centered, self-serving. Or if they have a different political agenda than you, is just plane hatful spitful, vindictive, self-serving.

    Such vile actions can not be justified.


    Pattison, it's time for you to SHUT THE FUCK UP!
  • outdoorjunkie

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    Aug 26, 2009 8:28 PM GMT
    I think it's horrible when celebrities, or anyone really, is outed against their will. For those politicians mentioned in Outrage, they aren't really being outed, are they? I don't see them as gay, I see them as monsters - period. Their sexual proclivity, at least to me, is barely a footnote in their otherwise abominable treatment of fellow humans in general.

    When you say outing celebrities, my mind immediately goes to people like Perez Hilton. He built his "empire" around this very concept and is now quite popular for it. Personally, I find his blog absolutely abhorrent. He's a disgusting person who feeds on the misery of others. In that, he's barely distinguishable from the politicians mentioned above. That he hides behind his sexuality and claims it's "empowering" for the gay community at large when he outs a celebrity doesn't make it so. He is, in fact, causing that person (Lance Bass, for one) a great deal of hardship and forcing something so personal into the spotlight.

    I say this as a very out, very proud gay man. I have no qualms with my sexual identity and wish others wouldn't either. That said, everyone has a right to keep their private life private. If I knew someone were gay, if I had this juicy tidbit of gossip, I would also have the presence of mind to realize that's precisely what it is: gossip. And for the record, I HAVE had this juicy tidbit several times throughout my life. One of my closest friends is still deeply struggling with coming out to his family, and has been for 15 years. When staying in the closet isn't causing others harm, how can outing someone be construed as empowering? It's an act of power, definitely, but not one that has their best interests at heart.