DHEA

  • vince_the_cyc...

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    May 01, 2007 9:10 PM GMT
    A buddy of mine recommended DHEA to help build lean muscle.

    What are the pros and cons? I've read it can cause hair loss and effeminate characteristics, has anyone used this supplement and dealt with some of these issues?

    Thanks for the help!
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    May 02, 2007 2:10 AM GMT
    Cause effeminate characteristics? That's a new one. Funny, it doesn't say that on the bottle!
  • vince_the_cyc...

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    May 02, 2007 4:04 PM GMT
    Right, I'm a gay man... I have enough feminine characteristics for dude as it is! :P

    Seriously, I've heard it can have negative effects similar to steroids, like shrinking testicles and the development of breast tissue.

    I've also heard from others that it helps slim guys pack on a lot of muscle.

    Anyone have experience with DHEA? Is it worth a shot?
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    May 02, 2007 5:22 PM GMT
    Vince, I've been taking 150 mg of DHEA a day for a long time. I started it after an article I read on Frank Zane's website, I believe. It talked about muscle building for men over 40, which is the time alot of male body processes begin to slow down. At your age I don't think you have to worry about things slowing down. As far as adding muscle, I believe it has helped, but then again, I'm 52. As far as female side effects like breast enlargement, none here. Hair loss? I don't have alot to work with anyway so I can't say! Overall, I think you're too young to need DHEA. We both live in Chicago, so if you want to discuss it further, contact me via my profile on here. Tom
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    May 02, 2007 8:06 PM GMT
    Hey Vince,

    There is much research, both pro and con, in regards to DHEA.
    Like any hormone it is a good idea to get a test to determine if
    your hormones need suplementation. It also affects people differently, depending on their family's medical history.
    Some studies have linked it to increased risk of prostate cancer, and developement of breast tissue. Since it is a precurser to testosterone (DiHydroEpiAndrosterone) it can affect your muscle growth in a positive way, but also there are sometimes side affects such as acne, and hair loss. It may also affect your heart, as it is a muscle and subject to growth through steroids and hormones.
    As with everything, a full medical physical is recommended to determine the specific supplementation that you need.
    Good luck with your research.
  • MikemikeMike

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    May 08, 2007 5:44 PM GMT
    Vince go with what u got- u look good. Only thing I heard was a freind took it and he got chest acne-yeech.
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    May 08, 2007 7:38 PM GMT
    I've been taking 100 mgs for a couple years now in conjunction with weight training and it's worked well for me in terms of muscle development. Never had any chest acne or man boob development...just solid manly pec development.
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    Jun 02, 2007 1:20 AM GMT
    Totally agree with Libertine.
    DHEA is a pre hormone, and the way it will affect you depends on your genetic makeup and predisposition.
    I take 25 mg daily, 3 weeks per month.
    I watch my PSA, etc.
    No hairloss what soever, great mood, feeling good, compared to the periods when I do not take it for a month.
    So, take a try, but be careful and monitor your health.
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    Jul 10, 2007 8:19 PM GMT
    Am I the only one who is puzzled as to why you're taking DHEA when you're 23?

    That's like taking Viagra at 18.

    Save your money, save your liver and skip DHEA until at least you're over 35.


  • GeorgeNJ

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    Jan 17, 2008 1:46 AM GMT
    Vince, I would totally agree with the guys above who suggest that you don't take it, because of your age. DHEA is not like those anabolic steroids you hear about, the ones that bloat your muscles. The use of it as a supplement is more related to guys in their mid- to late 40's and older, whose blood work shows a decline in it. Here is a quote from a doctor I listen to on the radio here in NJ (he broadcasts from NYC):

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HERE DHEA: The DHEA blood test is important for patients suffering from fatigue, autoimmune conditions, depression, chronic stress, and as a measure of biological aging. Patients who take or have taken steroid medications, or those with adrenal "burnout", are prime candidates for DHEA deficiency. Replacement of DHEA with oral supplements has been shown to improve mood and energy and to ameliorate autoimmune diseases like lupus.


    http://www.drhoffman.com/page.cfm/33

    If you have any of these symptoms, you should talk to your doctor about it, and then ask if DHEA is appropriate to try.

    As for being a lean muscle builder: Hoffman notes that DHEA can improve muscle mass and tone, but again, only if your blood work shows a deficiency in DHEA.

    The point of supplementing with DHEA is to bring your blood levels up to normal, not to overload yourself with it. Too much of it does bring negative side effects: eg, it can make a guy more susceptible to prostate cancer, especially if there is a history of this cancer in the family line.

    A good diet, a proper amount of sleep (which increases your HGH naturally), and a balanced workout are all you need. Checking out RJ for diet and exercise plans is a great place to start.
  • cowboyathlete

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    Jan 24, 2008 5:13 PM GMT
    gymguy2k saidVince, I've been taking 150 mg of DHEA a day for a long time. I started it after an article I read on Frank Zane's website, I believe. It talked about muscle building for men over 40, which is the time alot of male body processes begin to slow down. At your age I don't think you have to worry about things slowing down. As far as adding muscle, I believe it has helped, but then again, I'm 52. As far as female side effects like breast enlargement, none here. Hair loss? I don't have alot to work with anyway so I can't say! Overall, I think you're too young to need DHEA. We both live in Chicago, so if you want to discuss it further, contact me via my profile on here. Tom
    46 years old here, and I loves me some DHEA.icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 24, 2008 5:18 PM GMT
    try it for a month or two...you don't have to take it forever to see if its gonna work.

    I've never tried mt myself, but I'll be happy to use you as a guinea pig, vince, lol.

    let me know how it works...and if you turn into a girl, I'll still love you.

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    Jan 25, 2008 3:47 AM GMT
    When I am curious about a suppliment I check what the Mayo Clinic has to say about it.

    For muscle strength they say:

    Muscle strength
    Many study results in this area conflict but overall the current available evidence in this area is negative. Further research is needed before firm conclusions can be drawn

    You can read the rest here.