Statistics on the news

  • kinetic

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    Aug 20, 2009 10:29 PM GMT
    I have a very hard time believing any of them.

    No matter what network (although I believe FOX is the biggest perp) I watch, all I see are viewer polls on all of the current issues, healthcare being the most popular at the moment. Also, I'm seeing more and more on what is the most watched network for news.
    Its seems to me that every network has these polls worked out to their benefit, whether it be the the politics they support or the ratings they are claiming.

    So my question is, in this sea of bullshit what can we trust to be real if anything?

    Is anything out there truly objective?


    What's more is I'm constantly seeing the power of suggestion and the selling of fear which has been repeatedly and unintelligently regurgitated back upon us. Whether it be someone yelling at a town hall meeting or an email sent to some pundit or anchor, this shit has got to stop.

    What does any of it accomplish?
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    Aug 21, 2009 12:50 AM GMT
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    Aug 21, 2009 12:54 AM GMT
    90% of statistics are made up on the spot. icon_lol.gif

    But seriously, one should not rely on a single source for all of their news. It's up to you to get as much information as possible and draw your own conclusions.
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    Aug 21, 2009 6:47 AM GMT
    kinetic saidI have a very hard time believing any of them.


    News sources usually bastardize statistics by taking them out of context or failing to report the full findings of the statistics.
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    Aug 21, 2009 3:49 PM GMT
    The polls you are talking about are polls of viewers. It is not scientific polling by any stretch of the imagination. But, people don't get this. I know a political candidate who announced at one of his campaign meetings that he was winning in an online poll at a site that devotes most of its time hating his opponent. Not objective at all.

    But then, these polls are part of the entertainment-news industry. Does it really matter what they say or do when all they are doing is trying to increase market share and ad revenue? 1 out of 1 mes thinks not.
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    Aug 21, 2009 4:19 PM GMT
    They shouldn't even be allowed to call them polls when the "poll-ees" call in - that's not polling. A true poll or survey has to be based on a representative sample of a given population NOT whoever's watching some crap tv news or internet site.
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    Aug 21, 2009 8:58 PM GMT
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    Yes! I saw this just the other day and LMAO!
    Although it's definitely a liberal show, The Daily Show cuts out so much bullshit and tells it like it is.
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    Aug 23, 2009 1:47 AM GMT

    It helps to be skeptical of all polls. But two sources I trust more than most on the health care debate are The Pew Charitable Trusts and The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. Congressional Quarterly is also sometimes worth checking.
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    Aug 24, 2009 5:46 PM GMT
    "Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable" is one of Mark Twain's wiser quotes. Theoretically human beings should be better informed about the major issues of the day then ever before. After all we are bombarded by news 24 hours a day.

    Unfortunately TV news for the most part has morphed into a bizarre combination of entertainment, and opinions masquerading as "facts", usually presented by people who have fallen in love with the sound of their own voices. I now approach anything I hear on TV news with a very skeptical and at times cynical brain.
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    Aug 24, 2009 6:01 PM GMT
    vballboy12 said
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    Love it! icon_lol.gif
  • cowboyathlete

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    Aug 24, 2009 6:07 PM GMT
    flieslikeabeagle said
    It helps to be skeptical of all polls. But two sources I trust more than most on the health care debate are The Pew Charitable Trusts and The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. Congressional Quarterly is also sometimes worth checking.
    Good choices. RWJ is a giant in the field of health care policy. I vote on the CNN online polls for fun, knowing full well the results are by no means accurate.