Gay Scientists Isolate Christian Gene

  • metta

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    Aug 21, 2009 2:32 AM GMT


    Gay Scientists Isolate Christian Gene

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    Aug 21, 2009 2:47 AM GMT
    Too funny
  • phunkie

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    Sep 30, 2009 3:13 PM GMT
    hehe
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    Sep 30, 2009 3:21 PM GMT

    To be fair and add perspective, we googled this question:

    "Can Muslims be gay?"

    and saw this: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503549544


    "Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.

    In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

    All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

    Dear brother in Islam, thank you for your question which shows how concerned you are about the affairs of your fellow Muslims in the West and your interest to abide by the Shari`ah in all details of your life. May Allah help us all lead a righteous life based on Islam!

    Regarding the question in point, it should be clear that Muslims, whether in the West or the East, should show other peoples and communities how Islam cares about the welfare and goodness of all humanity. Islam aims at building healthy and sound societies that bring forth the objectives of man's existence in the world. No doubt, man is to populate and cultivate the earth. Homosexuality runs contrary to the basic aim of man's existence in this world.

    By the same token, Islam lays down rules and regulations that protect humanity and guarantee its healthy existence. For example, Islam forbids all sexual practices outside of marriage so as to protect the family, which is cornerstone of the whole society; if the family is healthy and sound, the whole society will be healthy and sound.

    Therefore, Islam prohibits homosexuality and lesbianism and all means that lead to either of them. These perverted acts are reversal of the natural order, a corruption of man's sexuality, and a crime against the rights of the opposite sex.

    The spread of these depraved practices in a society disrupts its natural life pattern and makes those who practice them slaves to their lusts.

    Given the above, Muslims should precede others in declaring the Islamic ethics and values that protect humanity against chaos and ruin.

    Responding to your question, Dr. Sano Koutoub Moustapha, professor of Fiqh and its Principles, International Islamic University, Malaysia, states:

    Thank you. May Allah guide and protect Islam and Muslims all over the world.

    Indeed, I am not aware about this position of some Muslims in Canada. However, I merely doubt that a Muslim who believes in Allah and His Messenger would have such a shameful and very disturbing and ridiculous position. It is common knowledge that homosexuality is prohibited and condemned by Islam for good.

    There are many verses and hadiths that condemn and consider such an act as very horrible and inhuman in its nature.

    Therefore, I shall call upon those people who might have confused themselves and shamed Islam by supporting such a terrible crime against nature and morality; it is a big sin to just believe in the legitimacy or legality of this act.

    Moreover, it is forbidden for a sane and mature Muslim to support this type of movement.


    Furthermore, marriage in Islam needs not to be redefined to suit the unnatural and immoral desire of defiant and lost people; rather it needs to be protected by all means and ways. Muslims in Canada or elsewhere should not hide the position of their religion and all respected religions in the world about this act.

    Read also:

    Homosexuality and Lesbianism: Sexual Perversions

    Homosexuality: The Nature of Perversion

    Gay Marriage: Islamic View

    If you are still in need of more information, don't hesitate to contact us. Do keep in touch. May Allah guide us all to the straight path!




    Allah Almighty knows best."
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    Sep 30, 2009 3:23 PM GMT


    Paying too much attention to the fox near the hen-house may make you miss the wolves at the door.
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    Sep 30, 2009 3:37 PM GMT


    ...and we thought the Westboro church was bad.
  • GQjock

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    Sep 30, 2009 3:50 PM GMT
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    Sep 30, 2009 3:53 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    Paying too much attention to the fox near the hen-house may make you miss the wolves at the door.


    You said it.... In Iran they hang gays from an earth mover on popular street junctions for all to see. I know of three cases where the victims were under age.
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    Sep 30, 2009 4:03 PM GMT



    You know, there are gay christians and gay muslims, but we think the gay christians are treated better by their faiths than the gay muslims.

    We'll also point out that both faiths have been corrupted by the narrow minded.
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    Sep 30, 2009 4:06 PM GMT

    Although they are entertaining, most flip-flop videos are ... a little overdone. hence:

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    meninlove said


    You know, there are gay christians and gay muslims, but we think the gay christians are treated better by their faiths than the gay muslims.

    We'll also point out that both faiths have been corrupted by the narrow minded.


    Well, that is quite the derail you posted, isn't it? Instead of a perfectly good LOLstupidChristianTrope thread we had to go back to our regularly scheduled Islam bashing. As we have noted a hundred times on this site, there are Christian nations who treat their homosexuals very poorly. There are Muslim nations who treat their homosexual very well. For the life of me I don't know what we can't call a spade a spade and talk about nations with piss poor human rights records rather than trying to thread them together with some fake religious thread.

    /rant
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    Sep 30, 2009 7:41 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    To be fair and add perspective, we googled this question:

    "Can Muslims be gay?"

    and saw this: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503549544


    "Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.

    In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

    All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

    Dear brother in Islam, thank you for your question which shows how concerned you are about the affairs of your fellow Muslims in the West and your interest to abide by the Shari`ah in all details of your life. May Allah help us all lead a righteous life based on Islam!

    Regarding the question in point, it should be clear that Muslims, whether in the West or the East, should show other peoples and communities how Islam cares about the welfare and goodness of all humanity. Islam aims at building healthy and sound societies that bring forth the objectives of man's existence in the world. No doubt, man is to populate and cultivate the earth. Homosexuality runs contrary to the basic aim of man's existence in this world.

    By the same token, Islam lays down rules and regulations that protect humanity and guarantee its healthy existence. For example, Islam forbids all sexual practices outside of marriage so as to protect the family, which is cornerstone of the whole society; if the family is healthy and sound, the whole society will be healthy and sound.

    Therefore, Islam prohibits homosexuality and lesbianism and all means that lead to either of them. These perverted acts are reversal of the natural order, a corruption of man's sexuality, and a crime against the rights of the opposite sex.

    The spread of these depraved practices in a society disrupts its natural life pattern and makes those who practice them slaves to their lusts.

    Given the above, Muslims should precede others in declaring the Islamic ethics and values that protect humanity against chaos and ruin.

    Responding to your question, Dr. Sano Koutoub Moustapha, professor of Fiqh and its Principles, International Islamic University, Malaysia, states:

    Thank you. May Allah guide and protect Islam and Muslims all over the world.

    Indeed, I am not aware about this position of some Muslims in Canada. However, I merely doubt that a Muslim who believes in Allah and His Messenger would have such a shameful and very disturbing and ridiculous position. It is common knowledge that homosexuality is prohibited and condemned by Islam for good.

    There are many verses and hadiths that condemn and consider such an act as very horrible and inhuman in its nature.

    Therefore, I shall call upon those people who might have confused themselves and shamed Islam by supporting such a terrible crime against nature and morality; it is a big sin to just believe in the legitimacy or legality of this act.

    Moreover, it is forbidden for a sane and mature Muslim to support this type of movement.


    Furthermore, marriage in Islam needs not to be redefined to suit the unnatural and immoral desire of defiant and lost people; rather it needs to be protected by all means and ways. Muslims in Canada or elsewhere should not hide the position of their religion and all respected religions in the world about this act.

    Read also:

    Homosexuality and Lesbianism: Sexual Perversions

    Homosexuality: The Nature of Perversion

    Gay Marriage: Islamic View

    If you are still in need of more information, don't hesitate to contact us. Do keep in touch. May Allah guide us all to the straight path!




    Allah Almighty knows best."


    This exemplifies how dangerous false belief systems are to civilization.
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    Sep 30, 2009 8:13 PM GMT
    theantijock said"and a crime against the rights of the opposite sex."

    I hadn't realized others have rights over my dick.
    yeah I find it funny that a religion that forces women to obey the will of men actually gives two shits about "the rights of the opposite sex."
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    Sep 30, 2009 8:22 PM GMT
    Religion is all about cock. Cock cock cock. I'll say it again. Cock.
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    Sep 30, 2009 8:32 PM GMT

    lol, nice rant MunchingZombie - but this is no de-rail; rather to point out that the ENDLESS christian bashing is tunnel vision in itself. We did some research per your statement about muslim nations being good to their gays.

    We came up with three.

    This is not about nations, it's about organized faiths.

    Earlier we said this, "Paying too much attention to the fox near the hen-house may make you miss the wolves at the door."

    Not long ago a large muslim group in Ontario tried to have Shari'ah law enacted and enshrined in legislation so they could have their own justice system. This is religious law and the province in question came close to allowing it!

    I'm christian with a small c and take the bible allegorically. I know gay muslims with a small m that do the same with the quran.


    The people we are talking about - posted link - are another kettle of fish entirely, like the Westboro church people. And they're not just in other countries - they're here.



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    Sep 30, 2009 9:09 PM GMT
    You are concerned about the Muslims by the hen house when you should be concerned about homophobes.

    Homophobes, come in all denominations, colors, classes and so on. Call a homophobe a homophobe. Don't try to link good, decent Muslims to evil, bad jerkwad Muslims.

    There is no difference between a Christian homophobe, a Muslim homophobe, a Martian homophobe. Biggotry sucks, and you don't fight it by lumping people into easy to digest categories.
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    MunchingZombie saidYou are concerned about the Muslims by the hen house when you should be concerned about homophobes.

    Homophobes, come in all denominations, colors, classes and so on. Call a homophobe a homophobe. Don't try to link good, decent Muslims to evil, bad jerkwad Muslims.

    There is no difference between a Christian homophobe, a Muslim homophobe, a Martian homophobe. Biggotry sucks, and you don't fight it by lumping people into easy to digest categories.


    Well said.
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    MunchingZombie saidYou are concerned about the Muslims by the hen house when you should be concerned about homophobes.

    Homophobes, come in all denominations, colors, classes and so on. Call a homophobe a homophobe. Don't try to link good, decent Muslims to evil, bad jerkwad Muslims.

    There is no difference between a Christian homophobe, a Muslim homophobe, a Martian homophobe. Biggotry sucks, and you don't fight it by lumping people into easy to digest categories.
    well to be fair, christian and muslim homophobes don't have the same razor sharp pincers and exoskeletal digestive tract as the martian ones.
  • Menergy_1

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    Sep 30, 2009 9:26 PM GMT
    is this akin to calling all Republicans evil (like saying all true Muslims are homophobic based on the response quoted above)? Seems both entities can be generalized and people can point to the political history or the religious doctrines/dogma as the starting point to make these charges.

    Yet we all probably can cite individual personal examples that don't conform to the general characterization. But then some will say "they're just in denial and hiding their true natures and it's mutually exclusive to be in both camps..."

    I dunno.
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    MunchingZombie said, "and you don't fight it by lumping people into easy to digest categories. "

    lol, so kindly point out our post where we did that. As well, your quoted line would have done well on some of the christian topics that abound here, but never appeared on them. How come?

    "Don't try to link good, decent Muslims to evil, bad jerkwad Muslims. " ...and just when did we do that? (Incidently, we notice it's common on this site to link good decent christians to bad jerkwad christians on a regular basis.)




    Organized faiths (some of them) are magnets for bigots. Some religions seem to promote it.


    And in closing we'll quote Doug, " I'm christian with a small c and take the bible allegorically. I know gay muslims with a small m that do the same with the quran."

    .... and include straight and bi-sexual in with the moderates.


    PS the fox at the henhouse that everyone is so concerned with are the extremist christians. The wolves at the door is referring to extremist muslims.
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    Sep 30, 2009 11:28 PM GMT
    metta8 - Pricless Spin

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    I knew there was a reason!
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    meninlove saidMunchingZombie said, "and you don't fight it by lumping people into easy to digest categories. "

    lol, so kindly point out our post where we did that. As well, your quoted line would have done well on some of the christian topics that abound here, but never appeared on them. How come?

    "Don't try to link good, decent Muslims to evil, bad jerkwad Muslims. " ...and just when did we do that? (Incidently, we notice it's common on this site to link good decent christians to bad jerkwad christians on a regular basis.)




    Organized faiths (some of them) are magnets for bigots. Some religions seem to promote it.


    And in closing we'll quote Doug, " I'm christian with a small c and take the bible allegorically. I know gay muslims with a small m that do the same with the quran."

    .... and include straight and bi-sexual in with the moderates.


    PS the fox at the henhouse that everyone is so concerned with are the extremist christians. The wolves at the door is referring to extremist muslims.


    Metta: Here is a post about silly homophobe Christians who are idiots who don't like science.

    MIL: Hey, Muslims can be assholes too!

    It was not related to the topic. You dragged in a little soap box to talk about something tangentially related to the original topic. And since you just posted a little rambling from a Muslim about how horrid homosexuals are, I really can't infer the best in terms of your views on Muslims. So, forgive me if I took too many liberties with your personal views, but you gave me precious little to work with.

    And why don't I stick up for Christians in the Christian bashing threads? Well, I do. I have done it in the past and I will do it in the future. If a Christian is being a homophobe or demonstrates and mangles science to fit his world view, then I will point and laugh with the rest of them. Again, I call a spade a spade. Hell, I have even defended Republicans before. So, there ya go.
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    lol, good points all, MunchingZombie.


    "It was not related to the topic."

    There we disagree, as Metta has a few posts about christians and usually no indicator that it is only a specific group of them. In fact just about all of the topics posted by many here about christians usually implies all.

    The research we did was not about one muslim but the leaders of that faith taking info from their holy book and using it like a weapon, just as so many organized christian faiths do.

    The Salvation Army, for example, in spite of their good works, has an appalling view of gays.

    We have friends that belong to 'fringe' muslim moderate groups that are very welcoming of us. Mainstream muslim faith takes a very dim view of these groups and our use of 'fringe' is a lot politer than theirs.


    We don't doubt that you've defended christians on here, but haven't had the pleasure of reading those posts when you did.


    We think that most organized religions are very intolerant and seek to thwart gay rights.

    At any rate, thanks for the sparring; delightful and educational.


    tip o the hat - us





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    HAHAHAHAHA