When to Quote

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    Aug 21, 2009 7:59 AM GMT
    Just a lil excerpt from another forum I visit. Some threads here are just... icon_eek.gif

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    WHEN TO QUOTE
    -When you want to respond to a specific point (or two or three) of a much longer post.
    -When you want to bring back a point that's several posts above the most recent one.

    WHEN NOT TO QUOTE
    -When you're responding to a brief post directly above the one you're about to create (the last post or the one right before it).
    -When you're responding to a long post with a short reply. (Don't quote a huge thing just to add two lines. Quote the relevant part or don't quote at all.)

    You can go back into your own post and edit it.

    Thanks
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    Aug 21, 2009 8:10 AM GMT
    The difficulty here is that the quote function makes it very difficult to pull out just the bits you want to quote from a series of quotes. I've dealt with quote functions on a lot of sites, and this is the only one where I've had problems trying to do that.

    Also, it's quite possible that by the time you finish your response to the post directly above yours, another post (or even a couple) will have appeared.

    I've sometimes been mystified here by what people are responding to when they don't quote.

    Some people here just skip the quote function and do it on their own. I've done that on occasion. Can be a good solution.

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    Aug 22, 2009 5:33 AM GMT
    flying_man saidJust a lil excerpt from another forum I visit. Some threads here are just... icon_eek.gif

    "Okay folks, lately I've been editing a loooooooot of posts with incorrect or unnecessary quote tags. Here's a quick lesson.

    WHEN TO QUOTE
    -When you want to respond to a specific point (or two or three) of a much longer post.
    -When you want to bring back a point that's several posts above the most recent one.

    WHEN NOT TO QUOTE
    -When you're responding to a brief post directly above the one you're about to create (the last post or the one right before it).
    -When you're responding to a long post with a short reply. (Don't quote a huge thing just to add two lines. Quote the relevant part or don't quote at all.)

    You can go back into your own post and edit it.

    Thanks
    "

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    Will do.
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    Aug 22, 2009 5:37 AM GMT
    flying_man saidJust a lil excerpt from another forum I visit. Some threads here are just... icon_eek.gif

    "Okay folks, lately I've been editing a loooooooot of posts with incorrect or unnecessary quote tags. Here's a quick lesson.

    WHEN TO QUOTE
    -When you want to respond to a specific point (or two or three) of a much longer post.
    -When you want to bring back a point that's several posts above the most recent one.

    WHEN NOT TO QUOTE
    -When you're responding to a brief post directly above the one you're about to create (the last post or the one right before it).
    -When you're responding to a long post with a short reply. (Don't quote a huge thing just to add two lines. Quote the relevant part or don't quote at all.)

    You can go back into your own post and edit it.

    Thanks
    "

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    I reckon I'll quote whenever the hell I want to quote.
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    Aug 22, 2009 5:38 AM GMT
    TrowelMonger said
    flying_man saidJust a lil excerpt from another forum I visit. Some threads here are just... icon_eek.gif

    "Okay folks, lately I've been editing a loooooooot of posts with incorrect or unnecessary quote tags. Here's a quick lesson.

    WHEN TO QUOTE
    -When you want to respond to a specific point (or two or three) of a much longer post.
    -When you want to bring back a point that's several posts above the most recent one.

    WHEN NOT TO QUOTE
    -When you're responding to a brief post directly above the one you're about to create (the last post or the one right before it).
    -When you're responding to a long post with a short reply. (Don't quote a huge thing just to add two lines. Quote the relevant part or don't quote at all.)

    You can go back into your own post and edit it.

    Thanks
    "

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    Will do.

    I concur!
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    Aug 22, 2009 2:53 PM GMT
    Jerks. icon_neutral.gif

    it´s rude as it makes the thread much harder to read, and indeed sometimes your comments get lost.

    (love ya really icon_wink.gif )
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    Aug 22, 2009 3:18 PM GMT
    I've always thought that it would be better if the forums had a standard "tree" format, with subsets to posts, so it's easy to see when someone is responding to a specific message, without having to quote it at all.
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    Aug 22, 2009 7:00 PM GMT
    Threaded comments are the worst. If you want to see what a mess it can be, you should check out Reddit or Slashdot.
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    Aug 22, 2009 8:11 PM GMT
    xrichx said
    TrowelMonger said
    flying_man saidJust a lil excerpt from another forum I visit. Some threads here are just... icon_eek.gif

    "Okay folks, lately I've been editing a loooooooot of posts with incorrect or unnecessary quote tags. Here's a quick lesson.

    WHEN TO QUOTE
    -When you want to respond to a specific point (or two or three) of a much longer post.
    -When you want to bring back a point that's several posts above the most recent one.

    WHEN NOT TO QUOTE
    -When you're responding to a brief post directly above the one you're about to create (the last post or the one right before it).
    -When you're responding to a long post with a short reply. (Don't quote a huge thing just to add two lines. Quote the relevant part or don't quote at all.)

    You can go back into your own post and edit it.

    Thanks
    "

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    Will do.

    I concur!



    Does anyone know what time it is?
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    Aug 23, 2009 5:31 AM GMT
    NakedDevil said
    xrichx said
    TrowelMonger said
    flying_man saidJust a lil excerpt from another forum I visit. Some threads here are just... icon_eek.gif

    "Okay folks, lately I've been editing a loooooooot of posts with incorrect or unnecessary quote tags. Here's a quick lesson.

    WHEN TO QUOTE
    -When you want to respond to a specific point (or two or three) of a much longer post.
    -When you want to bring back a point that's several posts above the most recent one.

    WHEN NOT TO QUOTE
    -When you're responding to a brief post directly above the one you're about to create (the last post or the one right before it).
    -When you're responding to a long post with a short reply. (Don't quote a huge thing just to add two lines. Quote the relevant part or don't quote at all.)

    You can go back into your own post and edit it.

    Thanks
    "

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    Will do.

    I concur!



    Does anyone know what time it is?


    12:36.


    OP: I'm just teasing btw.
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    Aug 23, 2009 5:36 AM GMT
    flying_man said
    WHEN NOT TO QUOTE
    -When you're responding to a brief post directly above the one you're about to create (the last post or the one right before it).
    -When you're responding to a long post with a short reply. (Don't quote a huge thing just to add two lines. Quote the relevant part or don't quote at all.)


    In theory one should abide by these "when not to rules." However knowing the average intelligence of online debaters, I would say it's necessary to quote nearly everything otherwise no one who you are talking to, even if it's painfully obviously. Also, quoting long posts are necessary to recap, idolize, worship, and pay tribute to awesome, nostalgic, and epic posts.
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    Aug 23, 2009 6:35 AM GMT
    xrichx saidThreaded comments are the worst. If you want to see what a mess it can be, you should check out Reddit or Slashdot.


    That's interesting; my experience is the opposite. I have the nested view set as default on any site that gives me the option, including employee collaboration sites at work. Slashdot's nested view, combined with the comment rating threshhold, is the main reason I have continued to visit the site over the twelve years since its inception even though there are now thousands of other tech-related blogs posting the same content.

    I personally think flat views - like the one here - are the hardest to read and the easiest for comments to get lost. Particularly in flamewars or thread hijacks. It would be nice to read a thread and skip over the entire branch of a side argument about g0ys or the FSM or whether we should just go ahead and euthanize all the "creepy fat old men" of the world. icon_cool.gif
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    Aug 23, 2009 6:41 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]syd_hockey_79 said

    I reckon I'll quote whenever the hell I want to quote. [/quote]

    Second that.
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    Aug 23, 2009 6:55 AM GMT
    syd_hockey_79 said
    flying_man saidJust a lil excerpt from another forum I visit. Some threads here are just... icon_eek.gif

    "Okay folks, lately I've been editing a loooooooot of posts with incorrect or unnecessary quote tags. Here's a quick lesson.

    WHEN TO QUOTE
    -When you want to respond to a specific point (or two or three) of a much longer post.
    -When you want to bring back a point that's several posts above the most recent one.

    WHEN NOT TO QUOTE
    -When you're responding to a brief post directly above the one you're about to create (the last post or the one right before it).
    -When you're responding to a long post with a short reply. (Don't quote a huge thing just to add two lines. Quote the relevant part or don't quote at all.)

    You can go back into your own post and edit it.

    Thanks
    "

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    I reckon I'll quote whenever the hell I want to quote.


    Just knowing it annoys people is reason enough for me to do it.
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    Aug 23, 2009 7:09 AM GMT
    ROWR! Expected.

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    Does anyone know what time it is?

    Tool Time

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    Aug 23, 2009 7:20 AM GMT
    u r right flying .... i fthey can read they'll get it ...whats all this shit with blah balh said and blaa blaaaaa2 said.. it 's like a gossip at at a high school dance!
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    Aug 23, 2009 7:23 AM GMT
    TrowelMonger said
    NakedDevil said
    xrichx said
    TrowelMonger said
    flying_man saidJust a lil excerpt from another forum I visit. Some threads here are just... icon_eek.gif

    "Okay folks, lately I've been editing a loooooooot of posts with incorrect or unnecessary quote tags. Here's a quick lesson.

    WHEN TO QUOTE
    -When you want to respond to a specific point (or two or three) of a much longer post.
    -When you want to bring back a point that's several posts above the most recent one.

    WHEN NOT TO QUOTE
    -When you're responding to a brief post directly above the one you're about to create (the last post or the one right before it).
    -When you're responding to a long post with a short reply. (Don't quote a huge thing just to add two lines. Quote the relevant part or don't quote at all.)

    You can go back into your own post and edit it.

    Thanks
    "

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    Will do.

    I concur!



    Does anyone know what time it is?


    12:36.


    OP: I'm just teasing btw.



    This is startin to lk MESSY!
  • barriehomeboy

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    Aug 23, 2009 8:15 AM GMT
    Stop quoting when you're responding to a quoate about quoating! Never. You should never quote. It's, so , straight.
  • barriehomeboy

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    Aug 23, 2009 8:16 AM GMT
    Gay men are all about rumours.They're less specific, but more damaging.
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    Aug 23, 2009 9:05 AM GMT
    barriehomeboy saidGay men are all about rumours.They're less specific, but more damaging.



    And how straight of you to take such a wide brush and sweep all those gay guys along w/ it!
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    Aug 23, 2009 11:18 AM GMT
    I don't think this would be so problematic if the site devs made a way to actually know which post is being replied to outside of quoting. Most forums I've used have a post numbering system so that you can reply to a certain post without quoting it and everyone can see which post is being replied to. That would make things here so much simpler.