Ok....I didn't think Faux News could sink any lower

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    Aug 23, 2009 9:05 PM GMT
    Bill O'Reily acted like a little girl and whined over the fact that John Stewart "exaggerated and showing his side of the story". Really Bill? REALLY!? When YOU fucking do it it's ok...because YOU'RE ass is speaking against the Liberal Media....but noooo...even though you totally ignore the other protesters that WEREN'T fueled by Pailin and had Sean Hannity add fuel to their fire by misleading them in a cloud of CONSERVATIVE LIES, Stewart is hitting low blows. Not cool when the pie is getting thrown at you, isn't it Bill?
    Note: This tiny little clip was pretty much the final straw for me. It doesn't mean this is the WORST thing they've done, but I know that this is going to bring up more assholes to start bitching about how the "Liberal Media" (even though Fox News is the only nooze (I'll borrow that term) station that is totally conservative) is always gunning the poor "real Americans" down. Fucking retards. Damn...France is right....we ARE stupid. icon_evil.gif

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    Aug 23, 2009 9:10 PM GMT
    Bill O'Reily DOES actually have a point, but he's taking a joke and making it serious.
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    Aug 23, 2009 9:28 PM GMT
    I'm not saying he doesn't. What I am saying is that John Stewart is doing the EXACT same thing that Bill does frequently (take out parts of clips to make it seem as if that's his source...aka half lies).
  • GQjock

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    Aug 23, 2009 11:33 PM GMT
    Bill .... needs to get a life

    Here is his EXACT words ......

    While most have been peaceful. More than a thousand have been arrested and surveys show many protestors are simply Loons.

    Sorry Bill once again strung up by your own petard
    He didn't say the arrested protestors were loons ... listen to him again and read what he said
    He didn't say the arrested protestors were loons he Said MANY PROTESTORS WERE SIMPLY LOONS

    Good try Bill ... you're still an asshole

    and I cannot Wait until the next Daily Show to see what Stewart does next
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    Aug 24, 2009 1:04 AM GMT
    LOL, the pot calling the kettle black. O'Reilly says, "Some people believe [Stewart] is presenting an accurate picture of the country on his program."

    Ah, yeah. This from a man who nightly is presenting a peculiar and distorted picture of the country on his own program.

    O'Reilly has a thin skin and a big mouth. I can't believe someone like him gets paid as much as he does when his only talent seems to be belligerent bloviating. Nice work if you can get it.
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    Aug 24, 2009 1:10 AM GMT
    inmate_6655321 saidI'm not saying he doesn't. What I am saying is that John Stewart is doing the EXACT same thing that Bill does frequently (take out parts of clips to make it seem as if that's his source...aka half lies).


    Ah yes, now THAT is a very good point. Considering the NEWS does the same thing as John Steward but PRETENDS it's real and unbiased. Point taken. ;)
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    Aug 24, 2009 6:01 AM GMT
    O'Reilly is terrified of anything that will cause the collapse of civilization:

    Janeane Garofalo.
    Al Franken.
    Comedy Central.
    Media Matters.
    The French.
    Teh Gays. Or maybe just Barney Frank (depends on the night).
    Justices Ginsburg & Sotomayor.
    George Soros.
    Sean Penn.
    People who don't like Nativity Scenes in their public places.
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    Aug 24, 2009 6:47 AM GMT
    whenever I see O'Reilly or Rush Limbaugh, my mind usually brings up this scene:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzKqeG-KTEU

    EDIT: Glenn Beck also brings up this little scene too.
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    Aug 24, 2009 9:36 AM GMT
    I saw this episode, and hate him or not he's got a point. There's a lot of people mostly young in their early 20's and even teens. Who watch Stewart and actually think things are as he reports. Stewart does satire he's funny too I like him , O'Reilly even likes him and they poke fun at each other in a playful way, which is what both did anyway, but again both sides took it too serious, and got stupid. He was just showing basically what was really said, showed the real deal of it, which probably confused a lot of Stewart's audience that don't know how to think for themselves.

    And why all the hate for FNC? If it were even as conservative as you think it is which you're wrong on that by the way. (because the hardcore hateful righties do not like FNC). So what? All the other news programs lean to the left, and far to the left. So where would someone who is more conservative, or moderate go to? Liberals always talk about free speech and all, but it seems only if its their views being spread around. Second everyone who hates FNC, and gives their weak fairytale reasons as to why they do, its always very inaccurate, and shows how unintelligent, and easily lead around the haters are, because all they do is sit on sites and look at edited clips done by people who hate FNC, then they go off on their silly little "I hate FNC" rants its hilarious. Its also tired now. If you don't like it, don't watch it, but its kinda funny to be trying to bust on FNC, and not the other networks who do exactly what you claim FNC to be, don't come out all hard trying to single FNC out, cause it just makes you look like a hater.

    O'Reilly is also a moderate/independent, which you'd definitely know if you've read any of his books, or actually watched his show instead of edited clips, I forgot though, if you're not hung up on the left, then you're a right wing nut bag, the right wing nut bags will call you a leftwing nut bag if you're not hard up on the right. Being someone who does watch his show, and has read his books, I've seen him bust on Republicans, and the right, as well as Democrats, and the Left. His interview with Obama was the best out of the 3 candidates, and he seemed to have gotten along with Obama way more than he did Hillary, or McCain (especially McCain, he seemed annoyed with him), but was fair to all of them, which is what a lot of people saw, FNC gained a hell of a lot more viewers during the election, because there were a lot of Democrats, and liberals (not crazy liberals), who were coming out saying FNC was definitely more fair than the other networks. He also got letters from silly hardore Conservatives who felt he gave Obama, and Hillary a pass, and wanted him to be nasty with em, felt he was too hard on McCain. Hardcore Conservatives hate O'Reilly just a the hardcore left both sides have a hell of a lot in common with each other, it so funny in a sad way, you both have way too much hate, anger, intolerance, and division going on there.

    Now Sean Hannity is a conservative, and I disagree with a lot of things he says, and he even annoys me at times. But I don't hate him, I do respect him as he does a lot of stuff for the troops, and as a vet I think that's very awesome, O'Reilly does a lot of charity work as well. I always think that stuff is very noble I don't care what your politics are, if you give back to help others out less fortunate, you get mad respect in my book. I've actually met both of em too, and they are nice people. The assumptions that come from people on the far left, a lot of it I see in here, is not only laughable, but very predictable, and proves a lot of points, to the people who laugh at you thinking you're silly, and I'm sorry but its funny. I crack the hell up when people on the far right say silly predictable things as well, both play off each other so well, and are so alike as I said, and both are too dumb to even see it, or acknowledge how the corrupt politicians in both parties, love it. Because it allows them to just keep doing what they do best, which is screwing over the people.

    I remember that episode of O'Reilly as well with the liberal protesters, and he wasn't against them protesting, as he feels they have a right to do so, he was against them disrespecting a lot of the people who were there, people who were out there saying some loony ass hateful stuff, (not to mention inciting violence ), and he just called those few, loons. He's chastised the loony toons in the current protest. He also acknowledges that all these protesters in the tea parties, and the town hall meetings, are NOT all conservatives, and I know that for a fact, because I've actually checked a few out for myself, and its a pretty healthy mixture of people, mostly independents who voted for Obama, there are also liberals, and democrats, and yes there are conservatives. All of these people also protested many occasions when Bush was president, or would call in, and write letters, and they felt as if they weren't being listened to, and feel like nothing's changed in that department so they're all angrier. I also thought it was pretty interesting FNC was the ONLY network that reported about that guy being badly beating by these nutty liberal guys, the two guys were white, the man they beat was black, had it been turned around the other way, black guy being beaten by 2 white conservatives it would have been a big story. They didn't report it, because the guy who was beaten, doesn't support Obama.. Nobody should be beaten for expressing their views in non violent ways, but the hypocrisy of the other networks was just hilarious. This is part of why FNC kicks the asses of the other networks, and why the other networks are doing so poorly.

    As for the whole France thinking us stupid thing.. Another inaccurate opinion. Sure you have very leftwing nut bags over there just as you have over here. You'll find em everywhere. But there are also a lot of French people (been there many times) who have a tremendous amount of respect and love for us, and there are people in the government who want to make the country more like America in some ways, as they admire a lot about us (not the direction Obama is taking us though.. And not all Europeans like him by the way, some are pretty worried about where he's leading this country.). Its those people who make France awesome, not the nut bags who let misguided, limited ideologies of hate, ignorance, and intolerance motivate them to say/do destructive things, no matter what their politics are, left right, doesn't matter.

  • coolarmydude

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    Aug 24, 2009 11:39 AM GMT
    Are you referring to this fight? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtDRx3h8JJA



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    Aug 24, 2009 2:21 PM GMT
    It is good to know that the discussion of important issues affecting the USA is in such capable hands. Something about Nero fiddling while Rome burned comes to mind right about now.
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    Aug 24, 2009 2:27 PM GMT
    wow, i could only get halfway through that- it was like watching a wounded child in an argument. except that there was no argument cause stewart was just cracking a joke. and how did this get on the news? its not news at all. who cares? i'm amazed his bosses gave him the camera time for this personal little rant
  • GQjock

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    Aug 24, 2009 2:27 PM GMT
    Directed to Rad .....

    Why the "hate" toward FNC?
    I wouldn't classify it as hate as much as wonder
    How can a News Network be so Biased in its coverage and still be classified as a News Station if it is already?
    There have been News reports Movies papers blogs and websites galore that have taken on the Obvious bias of Faux News
    and as far as Bill O'Really goes? He's a buffoon
    A blowhard who has been shown to be a liar at every turn
    To believe anything that man says is like believeing in the tooth fairy
    There is a difference between free speech and Lying ....

    He has been quiet about Jon Stewart before because he knows what Stewart can do
    Remember the verbal lashing Stewart gave Jim Madman what's his name from the Financial Channel
    Is Jon Stewart the live and end all of News? Of course not but he shows the idiocy of what we have now

    .... and Bill O'Really is as much a Moderate/Independent as I'm a Str8 man
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    Aug 24, 2009 2:28 PM GMT
    GQjock said
    .... and Bill O'Really is as much a Moderate/Independent as I'm a Str8 man
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    A-men.
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    Aug 24, 2009 6:48 PM GMT
    dude...I'm all for free speech, but free speech isn't twisting words around and saying you're unbiased. And yes, I know that MSNBC and CNN tend to be more left wing, but FNC could be right-wing and NOT be a damn freakshow. I've seen The O'Reily Factor, and trust me, there have been times where he invites two conservatives and a liberal, (for example him, Coulter, and Beck vs. no-name senator) and bash the dude while calling him un-American and "America doesn't have any values". But how can these people talk, when O'Reily has been accused of sexual assault a few years back (lest we forget the whole "I said loofah" incident). Seriously, extreme right-wingers are nut-jobs. Then again, so left-wing dingbats.
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    Aug 24, 2009 8:32 PM GMT
    Rad_d81 said All the other news programs lean to the left, and far to the left.



    No, they don't. This is a myth that the right wing has propagated so successfully that many people don't question it. When a news organization simply presents any truth that the right doesn't like, people jump up and down screaming "Left wing bias!" They do this often enough that people who should know better start to think this bias exists.

    Here's an example: We constantly hear about the liberal Supreme Court. Up till Souter's retirement, seven of the nine justices had been appointed by Republican presidents. You would rarely hear that mentioned, but you'd constantly hear references to all those liberal justices on the court. How liberal could the Court be when seven of them were appointed by Republicans? Can it simply be that sensible decisions by essentially middle-of-the-road justices so incensed some people on the right that they started deciding these middle-of-the-road justices were flaming liberals

    Yup.

    And soon other people believed this.

    If anything, it seems to me that the media in general leans slightly more right than left. Even among some of the notable exceptions, like the New York Times, you'll sometimes find examples of right-wing bias, as in the paper's coverage leading up to the Iraq War, when they quashed coverage of the evidence that there were no WMA.
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    Aug 24, 2009 9:07 PM GMT
    inmate_6655321 saiddude...I'm all for free speech, but free speech isn't twisting words around and saying you're unbiased. And yes, I know that MSNBC and CNN tend to be more left wing, but FNC could be right-wing and NOT be a damn freakshow. I've seen The O'Reily Factor, and trust me, there have been times where he invites two conservatives and a liberal, (for example him, Coulter, and Beck vs. no-name senator) and bash the dude while calling him un-American and "America doesn't have any values". But how can these people talk, when O'Reily has been accused of sexual assault a few years back (lest we forget the whole "I said loofah" incident). Seriously, extreme right-wingers are nut-jobs. Then again, so left-wing dingbats.


    Dude I think if everything you were saying were true. The network wouldn't be doing as well as it is. The network isn't watched only by people on the right. The majority of people who watch FNC are independents, and actually Democratic women slightly outnumber conservatives on O'Reilly's show.

    Glenn Beck is a libertarian, and a moderate conservative (read his books too), and I've seen many shows of O'Reilly where they'd disagree on many things, I've also seen him disagree with Ann Coulter, even get her worked up a bit, and kinda talk over her. And I've seen him have 2 liberals, and 1 conservative, or 2 liberals, and no conservatives, or 2 conservatives and no liberals, or 1 liberal, 1 conservative, it always gets mixed around, gotta watch it more than just once. And he doesn't start popping off on em calling un-American if they don't agree with him. People get yelled at if they dodge questions, or say outrageously false crap, and when he goes off on those people its beyond hilarious. Back to Ann Coulter for a sec, the atmosphere is very much different when she's on Sean Hannity's show, because Hannity is a full blown conservative.

    The whole sexual assault thing is also bogus, what was even more funny about the whole situation is the fact that Bill Cosby got hit with the very same thing, after both of the men had a discussion on race, and were agreeing on things... Hmmmm that's kinda weird, and being how hated he is among the extremes on both sides, if it were all true it would still be an on going thing most definitely.

    And yeah I agree anyone on the extreme left or right, is a nut bag. And remember both of these people the extremes on both sides, hate FNC
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    Aug 24, 2009 9:21 PM GMT
    I'm not defending Fox News' show hosts, OK? And, the objections most people raise about Fox News are about the outrageous, super-conservative, deliberately inciteful commentators/opinionated editorialists -- which is not the same as unbiased news coverage, is it? I meant actual reporting -- not the talk show hosts.

    Same goes for MSNBC, maybe CNN (if that's reasonably unbiased), etc. The news coverage is pretty even, in my experience, but the commentators can get pretty caught up in the "left-wing" rhetoric and exaggerations to a point. That's what opinions and editorials are on either side -- spin. News stories themselves can be broadcast accurately on a NEWS show, whatever the party affiliation, in the best of all worlds.
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    Aug 24, 2009 10:06 PM GMT
    I'll say it again, don't sit and take what you hear on any news program as fact, go out and see for yourself. If you're sitting at your computer looking at edited clips of FNC, by people who detest the network, because of their crazy ideologies, and you're believing what these people spew, then you're not thinking on your own... And judging by a lot of the comments I'm seeing in here, it looks like exactly that.

    Bashing the network isn't going to do anything. Bottom line is FNC is kicking the ass of everyone else, and there seems to be a lot of people angered by this, so they want to hate, its nothing new people always hate the guy on top. And the other networks shot themselves in the foot when they started doing what they thought would be popular, and have made people turn away from em.

    This whole Stewart vs O'Reilly thing shows just how moronic people on both sides are. Stewart, and O'Reilly always do this, and its funny. They don't hate each other, and they always bust each others balls. Stewart is a comedian (and a nice guy), and so he will edit clips that make O'Reilly seem as if he's saying something, that contradicts something he's said before. And its hilarious the way he does it. Unfortunately though there are some people out there who don't know how to think for themselves like I said, and actually do take what Stewart does seriously. O'Reilly will then put up what was really said, which is part of the hilariousness. Its not attacking Stewart, because Stewart says don't take what he does seriously, he's not the news. Its more of a laugh at some of his audience, who do take it seriously. AKA "the left wing nut bags", AKA "The O'Reilly haters"

    I don't know why people haven't yet gotten that haha Its all in good fun, no need to be so serious about things all the time, I also love it when O'Reilly's got Denis Miller on, I always thought he was funny, even when he was all hung up on the left, in the 90's.
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    Aug 24, 2009 10:09 PM GMT
    The network wouldn't be doing as well as it is.

    And how well is that exactly?
    Let's see

    Monday, Aug 04
    Olbermann: O'Reilly "Still Dominating That Important Demographic, 65 to Dead"
    http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/msnbc/olbermann_oreilly_still_dominating_that_important_demographic_65_to_dead_90756.asp
    Countdown was the top-rated cable news show in A18-34 in July.
    "Don't worry, Bill, you're still dominating that important demographic, 65 to dead," Olbermann said.
    The O'Reilly Factor had 1,237,000 in 65+.

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    Aug 24, 2009 11:56 PM GMT
    Rad_d81 said
    inmate_6655321 said
    I've seen many shows of O'Reilly where they'd disagree on many things, I've also seen him disagree with Ann Coulter, even get her worked up a bit, and kinda talk over her. Back to Ann Coulter for a sec, the atmosphere is very much different when she's on Sean Hannity's show, because Hannity is a full blown conservative.


    Yeah, I thought that Coulter and O'Reilly were going to go to blows. She was being all arrogant saying that she sells more books than him. He laughed, and was "c'mon".

    I like Bill O'Reilly. Do I agree with everything he says? No. I have read one of his books, and I have watched him on both the View and Oprah. I became a fan when I watched him on Oprah and the civil discourse that they had between them. He admires and respects her. He mentioned her in one of his books as a billionaire celebrity that is doing the right thing with her money by giving back. He compared her to Donald Trump, and basically admitted that he didn't like Donald.
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    Aug 25, 2009 12:22 AM GMT
    Those of you who criticize Fox News I seriously wonder if you actually even watch it. Granted, I can't stomach the whining Sean Hannity for even a minute anymore, and Glenn Beck gets under my skin within seconds. I'm not a huge Bill O'Reilly fan either, but he always presents both sides and, in my opinions, pretty much calls it like it is. He can be a bully though. Still, Fox has as many viewers as MSNBC and CNN combined, so they are obviously doing something right. Whether you agree with them and their followers is another story. As for Bill O'Reilly, he's also obviously doing something right based on his book sales and the fact that "The O'Reilly Factor" has been leading the pack of cable news shows in the ratings for quite a long time.

    Top 10 Cable News Programs, Q1 2009 (by total viewers)
    1. The O'Reilly Factor: 3,438,000 total viewers
    2. Hannity: 2,579,000 total viewers
    3. Glenn Beck: 2,271,000 total viewers
    4. Special Report with Bret Baier: 2,092,000 total viewers
    5. On the Record with Greta Van Susteren: 1,977,000 total viewers
    6. The FOX Report with Shepard Smith: 1,927,000 total viewers
    7. The O'Reilly Factor (repeat): 1,457,000 total viewers
    8. America's Newsroom: 1,445,000 total viewers
    9. Your World with Neil Cavuto: 1,428,000 total viewers
    10. Countdown with Keith Olbermann: 1,327,000 total viewers

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    Aug 25, 2009 12:51 AM GMT
    Rad_d81 saidI saw this episode, and hate him or not he's got a point. There's a lot of people mostly young in their early 20's and even teens. Who watch Stewart and actually think things are as he reports. Stewart does satire he's funny too I like him , O'Reilly even likes him and they poke fun at each other in a playful way, which is what both did anyway, but again both sides took it too serious, and got stupid. He was just showing basically what was really said, showed the real deal of it, which probably confused a lot of Stewart's audience that don't know how to think for themselves.

    And why all the hate for FNC? .... (usual baseless conservative rant deleted)



    And a practically right-wing conservative jumps to the defense of the most biased, slanderous, and dishonest news channel in the U.S., while denigrating the so-called *gasp* liberal media (who actually report real news without conservative spin). Who else is positively shocked?? icon_rolleyes.gif

    The fact that a Comedy Central news program is more accurate and unbiased than a "real" news program is shameful and ridiculous. As the OP said, it's no wonder other nations think we're insane and stupid. (As I explain to my friends abroad, unfortunately many people here are -- particularly the Fox News groupies, Palin/Bush supporters, and screaming loonies at town hall meetings.) Fox, Bill O'Reily, and Rupert Murdoch should be sued and shut down for slandering progressives, terrorizing the American people through the usual Republican fear mongering, and grossly misinforming the public
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    Aug 25, 2009 1:38 AM GMT
    you guys are defending tv networks LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just don't watch it if you don't like it or get worked up about it, stress is bad for your health
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    Aug 25, 2009 7:17 AM GMT
    No need to worry about FOX, hey they are about to go UNDER icon_eek.gif Da president said we needed CHANGE, racism can not exist in these times, we live in.icon_twisted.gif