Changing attitude towards contracting HIV: Accepting or Alarming?

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    Aug 24, 2009 1:55 PM GMT
    I seldom post let alone create a topic here but I just noticed that in many forums, not just on RJ, that to wake up one day with HIV positive in your bloodstream seems to be 'no big deal' these days. Why is that?
    How is your attitude changed? Hypothetically, if you tested positive/confirmed, is it just 'acceptable' on your part, like you've been confirmed to have diabetes or say, hypertension?

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    Aug 24, 2009 3:26 PM GMT

    alarming


    It's alarming, not really from like an apocalyptic "we are all goona die!'" standpoint, but from a moral, "what the hell is wrong with people," standpoint. I tend to agree with the belief that a society is doomed once it loses its moral compass. I think the dreaded consequences of that are apparent today although it hasn't come to a head yet. It is ok to be all kinds of inferior these days: ignorant, disrespectful, promiscuous, uneducated, cruel, and self centered; when does it end? HIV doesn't have a brain, it depends on us to fail at using ours. I'd hate to augment religion, but it does harbor a degree of moral re-enforcers. If people adhere to its teachings, if they don't particularly agree with some of it's boundaries, they comply out of fear for god. What are people afraid of today!? I know the American church is a wreck, but if one positive can be gleaned from religion it is morals and discipline (can one have both without being "religious", I do). We made AIDS/HIV the success it is today because of our lack of both.
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    Aug 24, 2009 4:24 PM GMT
    Alarming

    I would agree that its a problem. So many young gay men today just have the attitude, "I'll just get medicaton" if it happens to me... that is, if they think at all.
    I'm always having myself checked for diabetes, since it can occur on my father's side of my family. I can't fathom having a casual attitude about any STD.

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    Aug 24, 2009 8:05 PM GMT
    datemate saidI seldom post let alone create a topic here but I just noticed that in many forums, not just on RJ, that to wake up one day with HIV positive in your bloodstream seems to be 'no big deal' these days. Why is that?
    How is your attitude changed? Hypothetically, if you tested positive/confirmed, is it just 'acceptable' on your part, like you've been confirmed to have diabetes or say, hypertension?



    It's alarming.
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    Aug 24, 2009 8:07 PM GMT
    It is great that treatment has improved so much. It is unfortunate that neg people don't realize that it is still a horrible pain in the ass and not something that just goes away with a pill.

    I look forward to a poz guy chiming in
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    Aug 24, 2009 8:08 PM GMT
    The trend in attitudes about contracting HIV alarmed me at first but it's not like I couldn't see it coming.

    GuiltyGear makes a very good point and I concur. People today tend to believe that there IS no right and wrong, regardless of whether their actions hurt/aid other people. When you live in an increasingly amoral world, trends like this are to be expected.

    You don't need religion to know what's right from what's wrong because, as clichéd as it sounds, the answer to that question is already within.

    Or something.
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    Aug 24, 2009 8:10 PM GMT
    Alarming

    Because your a step away from being that person who doesnt mention it if it comes up in that discussion that you should be having with your sexual partner. *Shakes head* I dont have anything against anyone who has it, actually i have dated people who are positive. But others who treat it like its nothing usually change their tune when the unpleasant effects start to hit.
  • cowboyathlete

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    Aug 24, 2009 8:36 PM GMT
    Part of it may be due to the other public health issues like smoking, heavy drinking, and overeating. Everyone knows those are bad for your health, but too many don't give a sh*t.
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    Aug 24, 2009 9:09 PM GMT
    to many "neg"people just dont know what it is to be poz
    if you get the 1 pill a day treatment consider yourself lucky,providing it works for u and u dont get hit to heavily with the side effects
    there are tons of people out there with up to 16 pills a day at set times
    and all the side effects
    (nausea,diarea,headaches,tirednes,cant concentrate,etc,etc)
    wonderful world of drugs
    now i,m not even going to mention the cost of the pills

    when ever hiv shows it ugly head on these forums everybody always want to know what the poz guys have to say
    well we can only talk for ourselves and our experience

    all i can say is if u dont have it, do all u can to avoid getting it
    as in wear a condom, practise safer sex
    if u for some reason do get it , just remember life goes on
    the responibilty for your health is in your hands
    dont count on some stranger to warn u

    can u believe whoever your sleeping with for that 1 night?
    i doubt it, count them as being poz
    who knows what other gifts they might have in store for u(other std,s)

    being hiv poz does change your life and usually not for the better
    it doesnt make thing easier


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    Aug 24, 2009 9:27 PM GMT
    SWL2 said
    Epiphany1882 saidAlarming

    Because your [sic] a step away from being that person who doesnt mention it if it comes up in that discussion that you should be having with your sexual partner. *Shakes head* I dont have anything against anyone who has it, actually i have dated people who are positive. But others who treat it like its [sic] nothing usually change their tune when the unpleasant effects start to hit.


    Personally, I don't have sex anyways so the being one step away from giving it to sexual partner assumes I am also one step away from having sex with anyone in the first place ... I don't want any children so quite frankly don't give a [expletive] .


    sir. you're getting loud. we're just having a discussion ... I don't think he was judging so much as stating his opinion. it's a forum and you are more than welcomed to disagree.

    HIV: Accepting or Alarming? ... accept the people for who they are, HIV+ or not, but be very alarmed if the trend follows ignorance over making informed decisions.
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    Aug 24, 2009 9:39 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan said Alarming

    I would agree that its a problem. So many young gay men today just have the attitude, "I'll just get medicaton" if it happens to me... that is, if they think at all.
    I'm always having myself checked for diabetes, since it can occur on my father's side of my family. I can't fathom having a casual attitude about any STD.

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    did you know having a mix of Diabetes and AIDS is not a good cocktail, just dealing with something simple like sunburn can be a major issue, to deal with. Diabetes and HIV just do not work well together.

    Just having one grand parent who were diabetic, gives you a 30% chance of getting it.
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    Aug 24, 2009 9:42 PM GMT
    Alarming!

    This negative attatude would explain why HIV, is on the rise again within the gay community. But many of these people have been born with the word AIDS too, unlike myself who well remembers the time before AIDS, and free love.
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    Aug 24, 2009 9:53 PM GMT
    It's alarming that the younger generations think it is no longer a big deal.... due to the plethora of treatment options and advertisements that depict healthy robust men.
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    Aug 24, 2009 9:55 PM GMT
    ALARMING


    I totally agree with you GuiltyGear! people nowadays have lost any sense of morals, self-respect, and the health hazards of this disease. In my opinion what makes it worse then the disease itself is the promiscuity, dishonesty, and lack of a believe of a higher power within our own gay community.

    But is just as alarming the irresponsible attitudes and lite views of a growing number of self-proclaimed gay activists towards the health risks of AIDS, when IT is still the number one killer disease amongst gay men of any age.

    It is even more disturbingly alarming how many are still waiting and hopeful for a miracle drug, when they should concentrate at being more responsible for their actions and the lives of others!! Excellent topic!!


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    Aug 25, 2009 3:41 PM GMT

    Someone on the board needs a hug.
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    SWL2, I don't think anyone is talking about you or attacking you. I'm surprised by the lack of attacking here, actually, people seem rather sensitive to the issue. We are however, discussing a problem attitude where some neg think AIDS/HIV is not a big deal and other pos are apathetic. If that's not you, why are you so mad?

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    Aug 25, 2009 4:21 PM GMT

    Hey SWL2, bear hugs from us too.

    In the US new infections are occurring at a whopping 50,000 + per year. The drugs and long term complications are expensive. Blogs are popping up where people are behaving like HIV is some kind of rite of passage in being gay.

    So of course, there's a knee-jerk backlash to be expected.

    Having lived through this entire tragedy since its beginning, we think everyone should play it safe til a true cure is found. However, having hopefully learned from history, people should play safe even then, as something else usually comes along (MRSA for instance, though not the same).


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    Aug 25, 2009 4:34 PM GMT
    it's alarming. I mean, I am glad that HIV is not a "death sentence" anymore, but that it can just be treated like "no big deal" is anathema.
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    Aug 25, 2009 5:27 PM GMT
    Unfortunatly this is what all the Meds have created, it is considered "treatable". The Now generation has now grown up with friends dying left & right with no treatment, it was a death sentence....icon_eek.gif
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    Aug 29, 2009 10:23 AM GMT
    Both.

    But (without taking this thread onto a different tangent) how do we combat this? I agree with some of the comments here - there is a generation of gay guys out there who don't know anyone who is HIV+ or who has major side effects from either the HIV or the medication.

    But from a health promotion perspective, noone is going to make a campaign showing HIV from the negative perspectives some of you here have mentioned (the 16 pills a day at set times, the side effects, etc etc). The most effective health promotion campaign would only serve to stigmatise those who already have HIV, and that's not what we want.

    Anyway, those are my ramblings.
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    Sep 21, 2014 10:44 AM GMT
    I believe it's a big problem and the rate of infection is rising. The community is accepting bareback and other risky practices as normalised and many are unconcerned about contracting the disease. While young people are more people are more sexually active I have found that many, many middle aged and older men are practicing and promoting to young people a culture of high risk sexual behaviour and the responsibility for the spike in infection needs to be addressed or there will be some serious medical problems which will arise from HIV becoming over prevalent and strains mixing